Vibration in 99 Q45t

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TRUEST
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You all know I just got the car back from infiniti dealership. I mean they fixed everything that coulda been possibly wrong with it. although, I do sense some difference and I do have some sense of peace of mind, the gadamn vibration still wont go away.

The vibration is somewhat reduced as opposed to what it was like before taking it to infiniti but when I got it back, it still vibrates when i'm not even speeding. i hate that vibration feeling. this sure as hell isn't gon cost me jack sh1t so can anyone tell me what to tell the dealership to check in order to fix this thing???

0 cents is coming outta my pocket because i just got the car back like 2 days ago


qship96
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TRUEST wrote:You all know I just got the car back from infiniti dealership. I mean they fixed everything that coulda been possibly wrong with it. although, I do sense some difference and I do have some sense of peace of mind, the gadamn vibration still wont go away.

The vibration is somewhat reduced as opposed to what it was like before taking it to infiniti but when I got it back, it still vibrates when i'm not even speeding. i hate that vibration feeling. this sure as hell isn't gon cost me jack sh1t so can anyone tell me what to tell the dealership to check in order to fix this thing???

0 cents is coming outta my pocket because i just got the car back like 2 days ago


They replaced aged parts that were worn out,it WILL cost you more money,because if the vibratios are still there,there are OTHER worn items that need replacing after all those miles.I would look at the following: tires,transmission&motor mounts,driveshaft,out of round wheels,bent suspension components,prior poorly repaired collision/unibody damage,worn out rubber isolation peices in exhaust and underbody points,etc.At 173,000 plus miles,every component on the vehicle is suspect!

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qship96 wrote:They replaced aged parts that were worn out,it WILL cost you more money,because if the vibratios are still there,there are OTHER worn items that need replacing after all those miles.I would look at the following: tires,transmission&motor mounts,driveshaft,out of round wheels,bent suspension components,prior poorly repaired collision/unibody damage,worn out rubber isolation peices in exhaust and underbody points,etc.At 173,000 plus miles,every component on the vehicle is suspect!


lol.

why do you think I paid these folks $2300 for??? so I can go back and pay more???LOL. come on.

when I went in to the dealership. the first thing I told them was about the vibration and that I think some wheel balancing ought to be done. I told them I just bought the car and they saw the car had 173,000 miles on it. when i told them all of this, they said given the situation, a thorough checkup will be done on car to determine exactly what it needs.

now, they did the check up and came back with a bunch of list of what needs to be dealt with. they mentioned that the stuff that they fixed or replaced in the car will stop it from shaking.

now, after paying $2300 dollars for all this bullsh1t, do you honestly think I will pay a cent more than that??? lol. come on.

if they even mention anything close to money coming outta my pocket, the look they'll get will make em think twice about completing the sentence.

to make it even worse, there were some symptoms in the car that wasn't tehre before I took it to the dealer. take for instance, when i'm drivng real slow, the car didn't use to vibrate. when I take my hands off the wheel, the car didnt used to seem like its going off road. now, imagine me paying more for something that wasn't there until infiniti laid hands on it

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I think you have the wrong attitude about your car and the dealership. The dealership is there to fix your car, to do what you pay them to do. It is a service that you pay a great deal for. I can tell you right now that if you take the car back in and something else needs replacing, it WILL come out of our pocket.

See, having a car serviced at a dealer is completely different than having a car serviced at a dealer UNDER WARRANTY. You pay for everything now. At 173k, a lot of things need replacing. You should have expected the second you bought the car to put another $3-$5,000 into it and not a second later.

This is standard for someone buying a used car. Just because it was used doesn't mean it was used well and was well taken care of.

I feel for you. I too just spent $2,400 at the dealer getting work done on my car. I also know that I'm not done yet with repairs and never will be. To keep a used car up to factory spec, some things need to replaced every year.

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By the way, what qship96 told you was correct. Transmission and engine mounts, driveshaft, etc. are all good places to start looking. How old are your tires? Did you have the wheels aligned and the tires balanced? What are your tires rated? Is the load rating enough to handle the heavy Q? These are questions you need to answer before moving on from even the tire probability.

Nick

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sorry to hear you are unhappy with your service,but,after re-reading your post as to the 2300 you spent,it seems very little of that amount was used to replace defective,worn out components that contribute to your initial complaint regarding vibrations-belts,oil changes,water pumps,etc should not be factored into your ranting about how much you spent on chasing down vibration issues.servicing brakes,tension rods,and balancing tires are periodic MAINTENANCE items,if this has not cured the problem,it does not mean that they were not needed,it just proves you need to dig deeper and SPEND more to replace other worn out components-you will pay more to solve this,i guarantee it! do you honostly think they owe you free service to repair more items that need attention,get real!I hope you learned a good lesson about pre-purchase inspections,and the false economy of buying a high mileage,worn out car...........something to ponder,when you purchase a used car,you are paying for the amount of good miles left,which obviously diminishes with higher odometer readings! I suppose the selling dealer,in your world,will reimburse you for your expense incured so far?NOT ONE PENNY!

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see, the thing is before taking the car to the dealership, car wasn't vibrating when driving slow. car didnt vibrate when i wasn't pushing on the gas pedal. its after i got it back from infiniti that all this crap started happening. how am i supposed to pay for that???? its obviously something they did.

and by the way, I get the feeling the root of the vibration problem may be the wheels. below is the link to my car. does the tires seem too big???

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...st=22

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low speed vibrations are almost always due to defective tires and/or bent wheels. Sometimes driveshaft joints will cause a 'shudder' on starting up. If the car is pulling strongly to one side take a good look at the front tire on that side, move it to the opposite side and see if it then pulls. If so, the tire is internally damaged (loose belt) and ready to fail.

I suggest you think a bit about your anger toward the Dealership. The techs do try their best to fix things.

tating tires is not a job that the best guys do they have junior guys do that and a bad tire may not show up under casual inspection.

You certainly will not receive a welcome and enthusiastic 'let us take another look and get it right' if you go in and blast them. Make an ally, not an enemy.

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texasoil wrote:low speed vibrations are almost always due to defective tires and/or bent wheels. Sometimes driveshaft joints will cause a 'shudder' on starting up. If the car is pulling strongly to one side take a good look at the front tire on that side, move it to the opposite side and see if it then pulls. If so, the tire is internally damaged (loose belt) and ready to fail.

I suggest you think a bit about your anger toward the Dealership. The techs do try their best to fix things.

tating tires is not a job that the best guys do they have junior guys do that and a bad tire may not show up under casual inspection.

You certainly will not receive a welcome and enthusiastic 'let us take another look and get it right' if you go in and blast them. Make an ally, not an enemy.


i'm generally a nice person but if i walk in and they start giving hints as to what will be coming outta my pocket, theres gon be some problems. i wasn't experiencing the symptoms until I got the car back from them. $2300 is not chicken change.

i can understand and I most likely woulda blamed myself if i was having this problem had i taken the car to regular joe schmo but this is infiniti. no excuse for this crap.

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I can easily see how a 173k car could need $5,000 in replacements to get it back to near brand new riding condition.Michelin tires, new wheels, new hubs, new rotors [precision trued and indexed], new shocks, and new rubber bushings all around. [Replacing many bushings requires replacing the metal suspension arms as the bushings are not available separately].

Just added it up, it would be closer to $7500.......taking about 30 hours of labor............assuming you only pay $500 for each new wheel.

You are almost 3 times the warranty mileage for non drive train components.


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