VH41/45 4WD Engines?

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Guys,

Did the VH41/45 comes in 4WD with the ATESS system? If so what cars did they come out in and how much can I get one for?

Want to put one into my R32 Skyline GTR with twin turbos

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The VH41DE was in a FY33 in AWD in Japan. Don't think it was ATESSA.
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If you can get the version of the Nissan Patrol trans (RE4R03A) as the Q45, then you can have 4WD.

There is a Nissan Patrol in Australia with a VH45DE that is twin-turbocharged. They were able to use the standard auto trans from the Patrol. I think it was the Y60 Patrol.


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Cool,

Well I am not really fussed about the auto trans I mainly want the 4WD engine for the front diff/sump assembly as Im pretty sure they have a similar setup to the GTR Atessa sump.

Anyone have more detailed info?

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For my swap I will be bolting the auto trans of a Q45 to my nissan frontier t/case. I am told it bolts right up using my stock transmission tailhousing. Not sure it helps you though.

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T45: Thanks for the reply, do you have any pictures you could email me? Also what engine are you using?


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sijoko wrote:If you can get the version of the Nissan Patrol trans (RE4R03A) as the Q45, then you can have 4WD.
But I think this fed a transfer case.

Seems like some JDM Presidents were AWD, but I cannot recall for certain. Can't imagine the difficulty of aligning the front differential output shafts for a different application without making it really nose heave like the Audis.
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From what i have read the Infinity FX45 uses the same/similar 4WD platform as the GTR. That being the ATESSA-ETS system.

If anyone knows where I can find some pictures of the engine and driveline setup of a FX45 so I can try and determine how similar/different the setups are as I have searched with no luck

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You should use an adaptor plate to the GTR gearbox and use it with the GTR system as the attessa program was ment for the rigorous performance.

I my self want to retrofit the GTR system, so far I'm trying to figure what do I need to get. For the system to work properly.

Sorry for the large picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...m.gif

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David,

I have just replied to your email. Thanks for the pictures. From what I understood you are going to custom make a 4WD to the bottom of your engine? I was hoping the VK45 had a front diff/sump same as the GTR. Hopefully this isn't wishful thinking on my behalf


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For my VH engine I'll have to fabricate a drysump pan, since I plan to use a drysump oil system.

I've seen the front differential on the GTR shatter into peices so I've planned ahead and will use a rear differential in the front for the longer axle I plan on having an intermediate shaft rigged up, it'll take much thought but it will work out for me.

The GTR needs its TPS sensor the system wont work right without it, I've asked around on several skyline forums and did alot of reading to find the yes and no's you can do with the system.

You should use the GTR's ETS ATTESSA ecu if you plan on doing any high performance activities as it is programmed for it.

If you have the money you could go ahead and get the bee*r adjustible ETS controller it comes with its own ECU which replaces the orig GTR's ETS box. I plan on getting this unit.

http://www.otomoto.com.au/beer.htm

There's my plan.

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David Steele wrote:For my VH engine I'll have to fabricate a drysump pan, since I plan to use a drysump oil system.
I'm wanting to do the same for mine as well. Have you got yours planned out yet, on how to route everything and such? If so, I'd like to pick your brain a little bit on how best to set it up, if you don't mind.

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Okay, from what limited images there are on the VK45 engine service manual the oil pan/sump doesnt seem to have differential mounted to it as the GTR sump/diff does if anyone can confirm whether it has or hasnt would be great.


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Heres a picture of the pan here, its the differential shattered from to mucch power its not that big of a differential.

I'll let you guys open to the plan when I have everythign dimensionally right .

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I'll get some service manual pictures later also.

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David,

That is a GTR RB26 Pan correct? That is the first time I have seen that happen. How much torque was being transfered to the front when that happened?

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CRACKD wrote:David,

That is a GTR RB26 Pan correct? That is the first time I have seen that happen. How much torque was being transfered to the front when that happened?
Yes thats the GTR's oilpan.

I'm not quite sure on that, but it was alot of torque, if the RB26 did it then the VH45 would be even worst.

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I can see your point, does the VK45/V56 4WD engine share a similar sump/diff assembly?

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CRACKD wrote:I can see your point, does the VK45/V56 4WD engine share a similar sump/diff assembly?
The nissan titan I doubt that since it needs articulation for off road use.

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yes, never thought about that what about the Infinity FX45 which as stated on the Infinity website uses the ATESSA system aswell?


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