Honestly...if you had the money for a VG, you should buy a different car... I'm not saying you couldn't do it... The VG30 is already in the van, it's just a VG30E, unless it's a 95+ then it's a VQ35DE. However...For autocross? A van is too heavy, has too high a center of gravity, is too long and too wide to be competant.
You have $20k? Don't blow it on something stupid that would get you laughed at...The 'friends' of the people who get their cars ruined by 'pimp my ride' are PAYED to fake excitement. They, like every other sain person think modding a van is one of the most retarded ideas and is a waste of money.
If you have 20k, put it in the bank. Save for college. Your mom's grocery getter will always be uncool, no matter how 'fast' you could make it. I had a friend put a blown 507 in a Pontiac 6000 Safari. It could beat just about anything in the holeshot, but you know what? It was still a stationwagon, and he was still retarded.
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JimmyMethod
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I shouldn't give false hope but: http://www.turbovan.net/van.html That is a web page for a 12.66 second 1/4 mile Dodge Caravan, complete with wood panneling. This is the turbo in that monster:http: http://www.turbovan.net/workpaul.jpg
A drag racing Minivan CAN be done, but the Quest is a tank. That Caravan is ~3000lbs, the Quest is heavier by 800lbs. I caution that this is NOT the easy path, but with determination, intelligence, research, time, and patience it could be possible. I would start by learning everything possible about the Nissan Quest. My recommendation would be to pick up the Quest's FSM.
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A drag racing Minivan CAN be done, but the Quest is a tank. That Caravan is ~3000lbs, the Quest is heavier by 800lbs. I caution that this is NOT the easy path, but with determination, intelligence, research, time, and patience it could be possible. I would start by learning everything possible about the Nissan Quest. My recommendation would be to pick up the Quest's FSM.
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Ni2s4s0aSnX
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Re: VG30dett (Paygunn)
Sorry, but I can't even believe you are posting something like this. If I had $20,000 and I was going to get a VG30DETT, I would sell the Quest, buy a 300zx or a 240sx and spend that money there. I mean what the hell is wrong with you. And no, it would never fit, not even a chance. I can't even believe some of the people in this forum.
I would be attracted torwards the Quest just because it has never been tried. I mean, how many around have hot rodded 300ZX's or 240SX's.
I guess I get miffed at the attitude here. It's not our place to tell him what he can and can't do. It's his place to show us what he CAN do.
But in direct response to the original post. I wouldn't bother finding anyone who know Nissans, you are totally in new territory. Like I said earlier, obtain a Factory Service Manual, do research, find what does fit. Maybe there IS a way to fit the VG30DETT in the quest. Toyota crammed an engine in the old early 80's Van. They had the driver sitting on the engine, the brake fluid in the door frame, the battery under the back seat. So if they can do that, I think it's possible if you got real creative. But it will take ALOT of time, but you will also pick up some skills along the way. ALOT of skills!
I guess I get miffed at the attitude here. It's not our place to tell him what he can and can't do. It's his place to show us what he CAN do.
But in direct response to the original post. I wouldn't bother finding anyone who know Nissans, you are totally in new territory. Like I said earlier, obtain a Factory Service Manual, do research, find what does fit. Maybe there IS a way to fit the VG30DETT in the quest. Toyota crammed an engine in the old early 80's Van. They had the driver sitting on the engine, the brake fluid in the door frame, the battery under the back seat. So if they can do that, I think it's possible if you got real creative. But it will take ALOT of time, but you will also pick up some skills along the way. ALOT of skills!
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95lstegman
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Re: (dfw240_EE)
where and what kind and what organization? i've seen minivans autocross.dfw240_EE wrote:Oh, and one lil slice of what you cannot do. Vans aren't allowed in Autocross. Sorry, to easy to flip.
SCCA, I will go check the rule book again, but I could have sworn that minivans weren't allowed. I am pretty sure SUV's aren't at least.
Found it, under the 2005 SCCA Autocross Rules section 3.1 "Eligible Vehicles", 3rd paragraph:
"Unstable vehicles with a high center of gravity and a narrow track,including SUV’s, minivans, and 4WD pickups, must be excluded (e.g.Suzuki Samurai, Jeep CJ series, and GEO Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick).Extra caution should be exercised with non-traditional vehicles, e.g.trucks using racing slicks."
I like the one about the trucks with racing slicks. Now that I think about it, an old 80's Frontier is pretty compact and low.
Found it, under the 2005 SCCA Autocross Rules section 3.1 "Eligible Vehicles", 3rd paragraph:
"Unstable vehicles with a high center of gravity and a narrow track,including SUV’s, minivans, and 4WD pickups, must be excluded (e.g.Suzuki Samurai, Jeep CJ series, and GEO Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick).Extra caution should be exercised with non-traditional vehicles, e.g.trucks using racing slicks."
I like the one about the trucks with racing slicks. Now that I think about it, an old 80's Frontier is pretty compact and low.
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95lstegman
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Re: (dfw240_EE)
ah is that in older versions, i.e. before 2005? or maybe my locals don't consider minivans "unstable".
No, this is the 2005 edition. I have it on my computer as a pdf. It can be found here: http://www.scca.org/_filelibra...s.pdf
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95lstegman
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Re: (dfw240_EE)
i was just wondering if that rule is new for 2005, because i KNOW i've seen "unstable vehicles" autocrossing before. the locals even begged my friend to "borrow" his mom's minivan for a weekend . . .
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95lstegman
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Re: (chinaonnitrous)
well, i've seen a lot of custom engine mounting . . . F20C (S2000) into Miata, SR20DET into Miata, SR20DET into Civics, FWD SR20DET mid-engine mounted in del Sol, H22 mid-engine mounted in an Integra (yikes!), the list of crazies goes on. pretty much where there is a will there is a way. save yourself a LOT of money on this project and get a good MIG welder and learn to use it well. you'll pay somebody through the nose to be welding all sorts of things up for you; you may as well learn to do it yourself and save thousands of dollars.chinaonnitrous wrote:with 20K.....and 8k going toward a motor replacemnt/tuning/electrical/transmission.....VG30dett was never FWD from what I know..
Your going to run into alot of b/s problems.
If you want to waste it, and possibly take months and months to do it. Go for it. Otherwise, buy something else.
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