VG30dett in a s13? can it be done?

[comablack783]

Ergh hit the enter key by accident… I was wondering if it would fit? Seems slightly cheaper then an SR engine. I did a search on nico and I cant find anything on a swap like this? has it been done? Does it fit? How hard would it be to do VS doing an SR swap? Anyone have PICS ? What other engines fit in the s13 besides the CA, and the SR… sorry for all the newb questions lol…

[NIGHTfall_240sx]

anything is possible with the right amount of money, but i dont think it will be cheaper then an SR, im assuming there will be alot of custom work

[NIGHTfall_240sx]

...also, dont forget about the RB series, because if you are mainly after a 6cyl TT, the RB26DETT would work and has been done

[574-240sx]

All I have to say if front heavy and expensive. If you are serious and don't care about the cost, I would just go with the VQ35DE from the 350Z.

[comablack783]

lol, I definitely care about cost, but I'm just looking for some ideas. ok so after doing some further research a nice red top SR is about 1.5-2.5K.. The VG is about 2-3.5K (doh, not cheaper).. These are prices off of ebay including shipping. I think the VG would be easier to get into the 400+ HP range and would look tight in an S13. A RB26DETT would be sweat but that’s about 5k, I know someone put one in an S14, has anyone dropped it in an S13? I don’t even wanna think about what the 350z motor must costs..

[rico05]

An RB26DETT would as much work as a VG30DETT. Just get a CA if cost is the thing Better motor than the SR and in the same design family as the VG and RB too

[Cyberkreig]

if you asked me "is a vg30dett in 300zx possible?" I would have to say no.

[book-ends]

Rico!!!

I'm still waiting on those S-Tunes!! I was also thinking about a CA swap, but then there would be two of us on these boards with the same "slightly non-mainstream" suspension/motor setup.......and I just can't live with that!!

However, have you considered CA (TTT)? Triple turbo!!!

[Nismo_Freak]

Just get a CA if cost is the thing Better motor than the SR and in the same design family as the VG and RB too

Uhh, right ...

Biased opinions aside, the CA is a good motor to look into. It's lighter than the SR, mechanically easier than the SR, and it has cheap upgrades (SR Turbo). However getting CA specific parts is harder than the SR engine.

If you want a straight forward, simple swap that has an enourmous aftermarket availability then get the SR.

If you want something slightly different then pick up the CA, which is equally easy to install and has good ability as well.

I don't suggest VG, VQ, VH, VK, RB, etc. motors to anyone with the word "budget" in mind. To me the CA sounds like the best motor choice.

BTW, Rico... I'm gonna be looking for you at the NICO convention.

[D1SR240]

It has been done, i've seen a VG30DETT in a S13, but it was a while ago on some Japanese website, but i know that i have seen it

[chandler]

theres one rolling around in NC with a vg30dett under the hood, soon to be another if my buddy ever gets finished

[w1ngzer0]

VG30 fits. Problem is it sits 1" above where the hood should be laying down. I think this is even with the engine lowered not 100% sure.

But at anyrate i would like to see what people have done to solve that issue.

It costs the same as any other swap so don't be fooled by people saying "yah du it's going to cost you $$$ like 10k du" NO. Unless a person buys a VG30 for 10K....

[Chingon]

2 guys in freshalloy were working on one each. One was on an s14, and it would sit superflush w/the custom motor mounts. You need a vg30et transmission to use you 240 driveshaft and differential. I have been looking into the vg30de option (cheaper, less trouble, lighter, enough power) but i don't have an extra car to work with. The engine also sits behind the strut mounts, and apparently you have more room to work in than w/a z32. The guy doing it says he has like 4 vg's and got them all for 300. That's like 70 bux an engine .

[comablack783]

I dont know, but it just seems so logical to dump a vg30dett in a 240sx. Tons of after market US support for the engine, and it has plenty of room to grow HP wise. You can even save money and get a vg30de, and just add one single T, or one big A$$ T(t5, 6) to it , which is what most tuners who are putting out big HP numbers do anyway with the 300zx's, and the Supra's. As far as the hood goes there has to be some way of making it clear. Not that I want to turn my 240sx into a 300z, but im even starting to think that the lights off the 300z would swap in lol.. and the 300z seats would probably look tight in there as well. the wheels would eve- NO must not turn my 240sx in a wannabe 300z! ARGH!

[gibbo80]

ive seen a video of one in a s13 before at least one

[easymmkay240sx]

get a Jspec 13Bt (rx-7) you can get the complete swap for like a grand, and then all you have to do is make it work

[kouki-gymkhana]

Yes, the VG30DETT into an s13 has been done a number of times here in the states. I know that a shop down in Miami, FL had one a few years ago but eventually swapped the KA back in, added a turbo, and haven't looked back since. The shop is called BYP (Backyard Productions) and is owned by a couple of Jamaican guys (like myself). If you google the name it should bring up the website and you'll find a few pics and impressions of the engine.

BTW, the reason they swapped back to the KA, IIRC, is because it is an absolute ***** to work on the VQ in the s13 since space is so friggin' tight.

Hope this helps!

[Chingon]

"some inspiration"

[w1ngzer0]

one problem i remember with the VG30 other then the hood problem is for california people. CARB. Due to the strict laws i don't think you can drop a 6cyl into your car.

You can only drop a similar engine. I would love to drop a VQ into my 240 though. Light and balanced. Just how i like it

[240SX_S13]

hey i found a site that answer alot of engine question about swaps and difficulty its pretty good in my opinion......... http://klohiq.tripod.com/cars/240sx/index.html

[supra brit]

I was actually thinking about a VG swap...I just don't want to go SR because everybody and their freakin' mom is doin it nowadays, and they no longer impress me...I just want to do somethin completely different...

I don't know, I guess I'll go KA-T or CA...but I have lean towards the KA's displacement and torque...

[Chingon]

vg na is where it's at I tell ya. 222 hp stock, no weight of turbos piping or intercoolers. Many options from stillen and others. 280-300 hp achievable w/some money.

[w1ngzer0]

or just buy a VQ and not have to worry about it

[Chingon]

or just buy a VQ and not have to worry about it

but then you have to import the gloria engine, 'cuz the maxima's is fwd. Unless you go w/the old z31 non-quadcam.

but yeah the vq30de is another good option. "that thing got a HEMI?"

[w1ngzer0]

yah du. That got a hemi maaaaaaannnn

[1badsleeper]

You could use the VG30de, but you would have to run low boost becuase it is a high compression motor, i know Z1 motorsports has developed a single turbo setup for the TT Zxs, but in all honesty you could beat a modified 300zx TT with a well tuned and SR20det, i do it to mu buddy all the time.

[Altiman94]

I'd go with the ca swap. They are very straight forward and an awesome engine. That's what I'd be doing if I hadnt have lucked into a free de. I have a few turbo parts on the way and more to order. Hopefully boosting by summer.

[slow s13]

In that engine shot it looks good but in the side view of the oil pan it is an ugly mess. I think the guy that started this project bailed and went twin turbo KA he wanted to be different like everyone else.