Vg30deTT in 95 s14 ?

Post by **Dtoys S14** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

has anybody ever put a Vg in a 240 before ?

Post by **Syntax360** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

yes, but i dun know about in this country. that motor is huge. i thought there was one on meggela's website, but i might be wrong.

Post by **Porschephile** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

It would require a completely custom intake manifold and possibly valve covers. Way too much work IMO. The vg30dett is just one big *** engine!

As far as the s14 engine bay, I'm not sure if it would even fit between the strut towers. With those valve covers it's pretty wide.

Post by **RMiller** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

It would be legal in CA, though, if the engine was from the car's year or newer. That'd be really sweet.

Post by **Wakkolio** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

Its doable but not worth it. It would probably be better and cheaper doing a rb swap. There is no room under the bay, i always curse when i am working on my twin turbo z

Post by **masticatingcow** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

It would fit, but it'd be tight. I mean, the Z32 is a pretty wide car, and the VG seems squeezed into there pretty snug.

Yes, it's possible. The valve covers wouldn't be as much an issue as you'd think, but all that piping certainly would be. I recently sat down with a welder-type friend of mine, who, incidentally, is working on a VG, and tried to work out the piping. It would be a PITA in every sense of the term.

LOL, and nevermind it when you wanted to WORK on the car.

I've heard a lot of talk about this, and not so long ago, I did A LOT of research into the project. The one resource missing in my situation is enough money. Even if I could pull together the people to custom-weld everything (incl. transmission mounts, engine mounts, plenums, etc.) the cost of the hardware alone is daunting. I stop counting after $10K.

For me, it's one of those "when I win the lotto" senarios. Until then, it's up for grabs.

Post by **Dtoys S14** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

It would be great to put a vg in my 240 , because i know alot abou that motor already , i have worked on two so far , its a pain yea i know for space but it performs great , i love the sound and everything about it , but i got my 240 cant afford a Z Lol , even if its a 91 and up , cus we all know those tt z's go for around 10k and up ! but if anyone has any pics of this swap please share , i would love to see them , thanks for your replies everyone !

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

i would be interested too. I want to drag and i need a big motor. KA24 with the gas milage and lack of power stock vs stock i want more displacement.

Post by **masticatingcow** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

Here's a link to a now-dead thread wherein I ironed A LOT of swap logistics out. Also included is a pic from Meggala with a VG30DET in an S-chassis engine bay.

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

masticatingcow wrote:Here's a link to a now-dead thread wherein I ironed A LOT of swap logistics out. Also included is a pic from Meggala with a VG30DET in an S-chassis engine bay.

gah, i missed the part above about requiring 10k lol. But seriously? 10k?

What the hell can i do for being legal and getting more displacement and don't tell me turbo :rolleyes

im talking displacement wise

Post by **masticatingcow** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

Buy a domestic.

Seriously though... if you want a ton of displacement, you might think about the Nissan V8s. There's always the VH45DE. You nearly double the displacement of the KA by swapping that in. But then again, you have the same problems of legality. Turbo or not, you still have to go through tons of custom fabrication, where most of the cost will come from.

10K? Think about it. Engine, custom mounts, piping, wiring, etc. etc. All that plus cost of labor, unless you can do it all on your own.

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

i know im just a stupid dreamer that doesn't relize truth about japanese cars.

Post by **Prok0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

It fits.

http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...49016

I remember hearing about using a J30 front crossmember in an S14 to mount the VG30 in...

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

that **** has tons of clearance in the front. I knew it would fit ****in finally someone has proven it

Your the best noob ever!!!

Post by **Dtoys S14** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

Damn now thats what i am talking about , i'll check out some prices and do a lil more research and i'll write back and see if i mihgt start this project , thanks for the pics , if anybody has any write up on the swap as of wiring , and if the driveshaft lines up and mounts and stuff , please feel free to share your knowledge !

Thanks

Post by **KaZ (VaBch)** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

w1ngzer0 wrote:that **** has tons of clearance in the front. I knew it would fit ****in finally someone has proven it

Your the best noob ever!!!

Its just "placed" in there... no one said it "fit". I wouldn't do it... the VG is a PIG of a motor for weight... you'll be at a HUGE disadvantage trying to overcome the additional weight from the engine and the required externals (remember its twin turbo... twin intercooled, twin piped, twin exhaust, yadda yadda). And when you upgrade everything, its twice the cost... two turbos, turbo intercoolers, 6 injectors, twice the exhaust... not worth it in my opinion. For what you're going to spend to get that in and running, and hopefully to 400hp, you could have had a 500+ hp SR20DET. =(

Post by **Prok0** » Sun May 23, 2004 4:58 pm

Yeah.. I was talking to the guy who did the VG S14.. He has the motor in there but has yet to make the driveshaft, and if I remember correctly, the driver side turbo fouls the steering column, and he was going to make custom exhaust manifolds that would come infront of the motor and merge and he was going to run a single turbo setup...But he hasnt been working on it lately do to lack of time/money I believe... You could solve alot of the piping issues by making a custom intake plenum and using like a Q45 TB and then running a single setup..but then routing the DP may be a bit interesting...That or you could just run a TT setup with stock Z intercoolers..

*woot* i earned the best noob ever title. hahaha

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:47 pm

piping, piping, and wires. i would not put a vg30dett in anything with a unibody. having worked on enough z32's to last me forever i would sooner do a vh45de, rbXXdet(t), or sr20det into a 240 than a vg. i do like the motor though. for that matter i also like the z32 chassis. its just working on them that sucks.

Post by **MinisterofDOOM** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:18 am

Syntax360 wrote:yes, but i dun know about in this country. that motor is huge. i thought there was one on meggela's website, but i might be wrong.

Heh...that's funny. You say the VG is huge? Have you seen it sitting next to a VE or VQ? THOSE are huge, especially the VQ with its DOHC hemispherical heads.

I'm curious as to why you picke a VG of all engines. It's a little dated, and doesn't have near the potential of the other V6s nissan makes. Plus, I'm pretty sure Nissan will cease production on the VG next year. The only vehicles still using the VG that I'm aware of are the small trucks and SUVs, and they won't have VGs next year. I'd go with an SR or RB, or even a QR.
Modified by MinisterofDOOM at 11:33 AM 9/16/2004

Post by **AZ-ZBum** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:18 pm

MinisterofDOOM wrote:I'm curious as to why you picke a VG of all engines. It's a little dated, and doesn't have near the potential of the other V6s nissan makes. Plus, I'm pretty sure Nissan will cease production on the VG next year. The only vehicles still using the VG that I'm aware of are the small trucks and SUVs, and they won't have VGs next year. I'd go with an SR or RB, or even a QR.

Dated? Huh? The VG30DE started around 1989 or so. If you think that's "dated", you should think about when the RB was started (pre 1984). And the SR started around the same time as the VG30DE. So "dated" is a subjective term.

There are a ton of VG30DETT motors running 600+ rwhp. Just go look around twinturbo.net. I don't even think the SR or KA records are above 600.

Who cares if the motor is "dated"? There are a ton of aftermarket suppliers offering parts and services. Stillen. Jim Wolf. Z1 Motorsports. to name a few. Just because something is old doesn't mean you throw it out.

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:54 pm

[QUOTE=AZ-ZBum] If you think that's "dated", you should think about when the RB was started (pre 1984). QUOTE]

funny how the rb came around right around the time the L motor phased out. also how they share some block architechture. the vg is a little dated. the vg30de in one of its many guises was the best form. far better than the vg33e we put up with now. the vg has quite a few strengths but its not the top of my swap-in list. maybe if i was dealing with a tube frame racecar or something. great engine though no doubt. kicks the crap out of any domestic v6 that i can think of.

Post by **nsrZ32** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:39 pm

That's what I'm talking about. (I know I'm bringing a thread back from the dead) But damn! Now I want to get an s14 and swap in a VG.

Post by **Rex** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:10 pm

How about an M30 and swap in the VG30DETT w/ a 5 speed?

Should be much easier, right?

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