Very Upset but might be selling the pathy

[slickroger]

These gas prices are murder right now and they only seem to be going up not sure if i should get rid of the pathfinder or save it for the winter. but the money will never play in my favor if i keep it. The last thing i want to do is get rid of it because i know i wont drive anything like it again.

now what do i go i mean

[Qxxx4]

i hear you man i wouldnt sell it, you wont get what its worth as this gas gussler thing wont have you with as many buyers as if you would have sold it last year and suv's are worth alot less. My dad gave me my qx4 when he bought a new truck, and we got a great deal on it when he bought it for himself 2 years ago. So for me yeah gas is expensive but i dont have car payments, and insurance is only $300 a month for me compared to $500 a month for a sporty little honda or something. Insurance companies just want us young guys in crappy ****box cars that wont do you any good in a crash. I love my qx4 and bring on the high gas prices, Ill bike 12kms to school or drive less, and find closer jobs than deal with giving HALF my paycheck to gas companies
Modified by Qxxx4 at 1:41 PM 5/11/2008

[kamiar]

Arabs don,t export gas, they dont have technology to make it even for themselves, they just sell oil and the western companies are controlling gas prices...

[fueler]

^^ Yeah. Thank G W Bush for the high gas prices and record low recession - not the arabs.

[Qxxx4]

Thanks for the correction guys, I didnt know! but you should see how much the Arabians are making off of oil....i had an email forwarded to me of one of their homes...well its a palace. more like 50 palaces in one. The driveway is like a small airport and they have 5 bentleys, 5 bmw 7 series, 5 rolls royces, and much more. even a SOLID silver audi a8. Showoffs, Pisses me off. I think the only way gas prices will go down is if we start malitias and light all the gas stations on fire. It would be an economic crisis, and maybe then the governments will step in instead of making millions at the pumps and ignoring that the citizens are hurting.

[Issac]

Well I think the issue if looked at deeper, which maybe you have closely so don't take offense, the President in this case is not the cause (for once).

Drilling right here, getting off foreign, and working with Canada better on the fields, could be a big bite out of the problem.

It is congress. Parties aside, it is just the situation I suspect. The gas tax is huge. That is another.

[Buzzman]

These gas prices are murder right now and they only seem to be going up. Not sure if I should get rid of the pathfinder or save it for the winter. But the money will never play in my favor if i keep it. The last thing I want to do is get rid of it because I know I wont drive anything like it again.

That's a tough call. Is this your only ride by the way?The truck is old enough that you'll probably never get what you think it is worth if you sell it. Then you have to think about a replacement. Then if you buy used again, you may end up inheriting somebody else's problems. That would be a killer.If the truck is trouble free, I would probably keep it, and find an old beater to do your daily running around. As for the gas prices, all of the other comments are valid, when taken together. It's impossible to lay the blame on one person or one reason. It's all of the above combined. High crude oil prices (gouging I would say), plus record profits for the major gas companies because they keep raising prices. Ridiculous taxes on every gallon/litre of gas, giving windfall revenues to our governments, and the lack of any action (balls) by these same governments to give the average Joe a break by reducing the tax rate, or stepping in to regulate the business. They all want a piece of the pie, and it seems to be working. In the meantime, we as consumers just keep filling up.

[kamiar]

Well, what you have seen about their living style and showoff is correct, i have lived in Dubai for seven years and it is unbelievable, most of 16 years old kids own Range Rover sport or X5 or Porsche Cayenne and similar cars... so seems the high gas and oil price benefit Arab governments and their people unlike here that people will suffer from the high gas prices.

btw, the gas price in Dubai (after a sudden raise in 2006) now is 30 cents per litr only.

Thanks for the correction guys, I didnt know! but you should see how much the Arabians are making off of oil....i had an email forwarded to me of one of their homes...well its a palace. more like 50 palaces in one. The driveway is like a small airport and they have 5 bentleys, 5 bmw 7 series, 5 rolls royces, and much more. even a SOLID silver audi a8. Showoffs, Pisses me off. I think the only way gas prices will go down is if we start malitias and light all the gas stations on fire. It would be an economic crisis, and maybe then the governments will step in instead of making millions at the pumps and ignoring that the citizens are hurting.

[Issac]

My mistake. Bad subject. No! burning things will not work except to put the country into chaos. And then you will not even get any gas, but instead guns pointed at you.

There are problems, but the answer is not really wanted by those that stand to make money on the way it is.

I think we can look at pathfinder good running, air pressure, clean air filter, timing, driving slower and smarter.

It would take an awful lot of miles on a fuel efficient Prius to pay itself off. I think this is funny when people go and buy these expensive cars to save money.

Hey find an old VW diesel. I had one that got 40mpg on a bad day, actually 2 of them. The turbo was not bad and it cost $2300 and went another 100k.

My mistake. Lets drop the govt and blame. The issue is deeper than for here.

[Andrew224]

Don't sell it unless the monthly payment you would have on the new car would be less than the $ amount of gas it would save every month (pretty hard to do).

I plan to drive my QX until it's time to replace it (hopefully like 5 years). When I do, you better believe that I will be getting a diesel (bluetec or the like) or a hybrid if nothing better has come along by then. In the meantime, my motorcycle (40-50 mpg) will be getting some serious use.

Don't blame George W for this. He's only one man. Don't blame the Arabs either. You need to realize that both China and India (and Russia too) have an emerging middle class (which will outsize the US middle class in a few years) that would like to have a lifestyle very much like ours (based on comsumption). The demand on gasoline world wide has shifted the demand curve out, increasing price even though oil and gasoline production are at their highest levels in history.

Don't hate the oil companies for getting rich. We're the ones that continue to buy their product at whatever price they throw at us. Government regulation has a way of frequently making things worse. Remember, the government subsides / tax break the US gave oil companies a few years ago is one of the reasons why their profits are so huge now. And also the reason why US oil is untappable. The solution is to start making decisions to purchase more fuel efficient or alternative fuel using vehicles to reduce our dependancy on fossil fuels.

Until then, drive less, car pool or use alternative means to commute. If these seem to be intolerable choices now, re-evaluate when gas hits $6+ a gallon.

Just something to think about.

Andrew

[SnowSurfLax]

Thank you Andrew for some reason!

Hey, ExxonMobil made $42B in 2007. They also had to sell $434B worth of crap to make that. That's only a 10% ROS. That's kind of *meh* as far as wall street goes. Now, remember they made that with US Fed subsidies, meaning they'd have made less had the US Gov not helped them out. Kind of lame as far as a company to own stock in.

I remember being in France almost 10 years ago and paying only a little more than I currently do for gas. Yes, countries with natural resources to sell usually make it an entitlement to their people that they get it really cheap.

Remember, in the 50's, the US produced all the gas it needs. (Or well sort of owned the rights elsewhere in the world.)

We're actually only paying what's equitable given that we dont' produce enough to meet our needs. Less than most of the world, but more than a lot. Our market economy determines what we pay at the pump just as much as domestic policy (no one has built a refinery in the US for almost 30 years) and what they buy the raw material for.

[KoukiS14]

As the mod in this forum, I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm selling mine. I was paying about 400 a month in fuel, which is the reason I bought the Impreza wagon. My fuel costs with that car are half of the price, while interior space is almost identical.

I haven't driven the QX4 in over a month.

It sucks ***, but what ya gonna do?

I've got a guy interested in it, and I'll see him today so we'll see.

Upside: Subaru has shared parts with Nissan since 85, so I have the same window switches and some other parts as my QX4. .I can close my eyes and pretend

My total monthly savings is $154 (I drive an avg. of 1500 a month), despite paying another 50 for the Saab 92x.

[Densetsu]

I have a 1995 Chev Lumina, a mid-sized sedan, sitting on my parent's acreage. I crunched a few numbers to see if I should put in on the road.

My Pathy costs me about $300/mo in gas at 18mpg. The Lumina would cost me around $200/mo in gas at 27mpg.

Insuring both vehicles would cost an extra $50/mo. Maintenance on the Lumina would cost around $20 a month, since every few weeks I'm replacing *something*, or changing fluids, or whatever. Plus there's things like vehicle registration ($25/yr) and new plates ($70). Also, I'd only drive the Lumina from May - October inclusive, since it's terrible on winter roads.

Thus, unless I completely dropped the Pathy (which I'm not), or went on a cross-country road trip (a possibility), it doesn't really pay off.

So the way I see things, the extra $1000/yr I pay in gas, I'm paying for safety and convienence. The Pathy handles the five months of Canadian winters *way* better than the Lumina. And if I ever did get in a collision, I'd rather be in an SUV than a car.

All that said, I'm still *really* tempted to get a bike for the summer months.

[Andrew224]

I have the same issues with bad weather where I live. As far as I'm concerned, I need a 4WD vehicle at least 5 months out of the year. 30 mpg is great if the car isn't stuck in snow and going 0 mph.

Andrew

[fueler]

I'm selling mine. I was paying about 400 a month in fuel,

WTF you just bought it!!

BOOO never drive a small car!!! f**k gas prices!! Ill do a burnout in my 15mpg QX4 at the gas station and still laugh at people in Chevy Aveos and other clown cars!!

[screwinitupagain]

Mine is paid off so I am going to buy some POS car that gets 35-40 mpg for like $700-$900 to drive daily. But like I said my Pathy has been paid off for like 5 or so years.

Dude it sucks but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

[KoukiS14]

I have the same issues with bad weather where I live. As far as I'm concerned, I need a 4WD vehicle at least 5 months out of the year. 30 mpg is great if the car isn't stuck in snow and going 0 mph.

Andrew

Actually my 240sx with snows did as well as my QX4 with standard all season Duelers. . but I agree, 4wd is loads better. I had to keep with the tradition and go for AWD, sans ground clearance.

[KoukiS14]

WTF you just bought it!!

BOOO never drive a small car!!! f**k gas prices!! Ill do a burnout in my 15mpg QX4 at the gas station and still laugh at people in Chevy Aveos and other clown cars!!

Well the 92x feels almost exactly like my 240sx to drive, yet retains much of the cargo capacity of my QX4 and is still 4wd. To me, it's very Nissan so it was a no-brainer. .

Yeah I bought it at a time when I wasn't driving as much, but failed to predict the future -- the gas prices weren't bothering me, but I just bought a house and the extra 200 a month will get pissed away on my lawn. .

I do a lot of back and forth driving to NC as well, which is a 675 mile one-way trip.

[Chris92SE]

I have been strongly considering selling my QX4, but the kbb trade in value has dropped like a lead balloon.

About a year ago, the trade in value was over $12k. Now it is like $8k. I still owe $13k on it, with a couple of years to go. I think I am just going to keep it until it's paid off.

I have been driving it less (last year was only about 7k miles). Lately, I have been renting a small car for trips over 200 miles. Less miles on my car and the fuel difference (premium in the 16 mpg Q vs. regular in a 30 mpg car) are not too far off. I keep getting 50 percent off weekend rentals at Enterprise and got a Sentra (33 mpg) and a Malibu (29 mpg) for a little over $20 a day.

My wife doesn't like the Maxima because it's lowered and she doesn't like the lack of safety features (airbag, abs) even though it was perfectly safe in 1992.

[SnowSurfLax]

Yeah, gas is murder. Not much you can do about it for the R50's with the VG's. So do what I'm doing, buying my wife a TL so we'll drive that around all over the place at 27mpg versus my 15 for the QX.

OR...

Do what I'm doing, dropping 500 lbs off the curb weight of the vehicle. It's going to be spendy, but if you drive 1500 miles a month, the $2-3K will pay for itself in a year.

[fueler]

Should I buy a CRX?? $1500

[timmack]

man i used to have a 1990 crx and it was the funnest car id ever been in for under $15k. plus they run for ages, ive seen some with 300,000 miles on the odo. plus you get about 35mpg out of them, and they handle like a car that would run about $35-40k with a few minor mods.

[screwinitupagain]

Should I buy a CRX?? $1500

Offer them $1000 & then wear it the hell out!

[WINNIPEGS_MOST_WANTED]

We could band together and form a Robin Hood of the present day type scenario. Picture this:

An army of pathfinders and QX4s roaring down the highway stopping tankers and taking their fuel. Then distributing it amoungst all the Nismo people...

We'd all get to keep our pathfinders (of course we'd have to quit our day jobs)...

[Northern Manny]

Hey Mon

Nice to see a fellow Manitobaian here,, Churchill MB here myselfGas only $1.82 a litre here........ still love my 2003 Pathy Le

Respect Manny

[WINNIPEGS_MOST_WANTED]

Wow I've never met another Manitoban online before!

[Qxxx4]

$1.82 a LITRE?? wow and all us ontarians are complaining at $1.25...yikes. Im anticipating $2.30 a litre by 2009. woohoo! guess what. id rather put my qx4 in the garage and drive it on the weekend and in the winter and take the bus to work than deal with selling it. Screw that. Im a young guy so if i sold it to get a sporty little 4banger then the insurance company will jack up my insurance (even though i have a CLEAN record). so screw the insurance companies and screw the gas companies. lets use up that oil and let this earth burn up from the emissions. I used to care about the environment but when arabians are paying $0.30 cents a litre, oil companies are making $42 billion, car companies are killing alternatives (WATCH "WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR!!!"), whose going to stop it. this world is run by money and i love to drive, so you know what, im going to do it for as long as i can afford it, and when i cant, then well start a pathfinder/qx4 malitia and take down the oil companies, oil countries, and burn down those DAMN palaces in arabia. lucky pricks. lol

[slickroger]

my mind has changed. i am going to put up with the gas prices and im not buying no little civic. listenin to the love for the vehicle from y'all has changed my mind. plus there was one morning i came out the truck looked so pretty i didnt have the heart to even think of putting a price on it. Pathfinder

[WINNIPEGS_MOST_WANTED]

Three cheers for slickroger!

[Qxxx4]

We should ban anyone who threatens to sell their vehicles on this forum. Seriously! Like fueler did it not too long ago, its very depressing!!!!!