Vert Bar?

[Phan]

hey guys, so i've been searching the forum and i've saw some of the members vert with the bars welded on the back seat and i was just wonder what type of bar would best fit the vert?

[Harman850T5]

http://www.frsport.com/index.p...l+bar

This one, or a custom one, for function and looks.

[onosqv]

The question is "why"...

If you are just going for looks, some members found that you can mod the miata roll bar similar to the picture you have onto the back seat.

Safety-wise, it's not going to do anything - in fact, may potentially be less safe (imagine if that bar is bolted on and decides it wants to move/pop out in an accident or something - nothing's holding it away from your head).

If you want function, your best bet is a roll bar; of course, this isn't much safer on the streets either since you don't have a helmt - so this is only recommended if you track your car a lot & it isn't your daily driver.

As far as I know, there are no readily available harness bars for the verts, the only guys who have successfully run that type have had them custom welded (i.e. check out 110octane's setup, very clean & sleeperish - more for street than track though).

You can search for all of these, they've been covered a few times here.

[Harman850T5]

Sorry to take this off topic a little, but I wonder if 110octane could give me the specs for his, since I don't think I'm going to track the vert much to really need the roll bar.

[onosqv]

Sorry to take this off topic a little, but I wonder if 110octane could give me the specs for his, since I don't think I'm going to track the vert much to really need the roll bar.

Try emailing him?

[Phan]

onosqv do you think it is a good idea to weld a bar across the back of the vert where to rear panel stereo is? safety wise do you think it would be better or worser?

[onosqv]

Again, the question is... why?

Welding a bar is always better than bolting on a bar. Just welding bars in your car doesn't necessarily make it more or less safe - you should be able to use your own judgment on what you are doing w/ the car to figure out what is safe or not for you.

If you aren't tracking the car, there's zero point in doing things that are potentially irreversible.

If you are tracking the car, depending on what you are doing and how serious you are into it, you will want to make sure whatever you are doing (in this case welding a bar in the rear speaker area), is allowed & doesn't put you in some weird class that you won't be competitive in, etc.

[johnny butt]

Sorry to take this off topic a little, but I wonder if 110octane could give me the specs for his, since I don't think I'm going to track the vert much to really need the roll bar.

specs?

get a welder, or if you are comfortable doing it yourself, take measurements.

[gammer_ghn]

now thats some work right there! Really sexy!

[110octane]

Sorry to take this off topic a little, but I wonder if 110octane could give me the specs for his, since I don't think I'm going to track the vert much to really need the roll bar.

Harman, I had this chassis stregthening bar made and installed to relieve the chassis flexing problem synonomous with our cars. My plan was to build something to make the car stiffer and provide better feedback rather than the wet noodle feel that Nissan hooked us up with.

Louie and I built my bar at L*CON Fabrication (www.l-con.net) and was fairly simple to put together. We spent more time thinking about what would be most effective than we did building it. The difference was apparent immediatly.

i hope this helps?

[johnny butt]

do you think it would be possible to have a setup similar to yours, but fabricate it so that a rollbar you could attach on top for track days? Or would that just not SCCA/NASA specs?

[onosqv]

do you think it would be possible to have a setup similar to yours, but fabricate it so that a rollbar you could attach on top for track days? Or would that just not SCCA/NASA specs?

Won't be spec nor safe if you are thinking what I'm thinking (aka attaching the top hoop of a roll bar to the welded in bars).

If you want to do that, just get a bolt-in roll bar (you can also turn any weld-in roll bar to a bolt-in one w/ some creativity).