Versa Turbo..?

[Codelicious]

I found this on Ebay while looking at things for my car.

$600 for a turbo kit seems really cheap. Maybe I just don't know much..?Seems like a really crappy deal.

20,000 miles than you need a rebuild...?

Is it just me or does this sound stupid?

[silverarrow27]

I'll answer this for you before someone slams you for your question.

There was only one off custom turbo kit made for the Versa. No one else has made another one unless you have a direct link to the Versa turbo kit you're talking about on ebay.

As for the 20k miles then you need a rebuild question, what are you trying to ask here?

[Codelicious]

Oh sorry I guess I forgot to post the link. lol

Here is the link...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318

[silverarrow27]

I think even if they paid me to put that kit on my car, I would still refuse. Everything says "CHEAP" all over it.

First of all, no turbo manifold is included. Second of all, turbo needs rebuilding after 20k miles? Third, it is made in China which is in dark bold lol. Fourth, s***ty turbo specs; a 57 trim compressor wheel on a 1.8L? Fifth, there's an oil feed, but where's the oil drain?

CRAP CRAP CRAP!!! Stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Codelicious]

I figured it was shifty.

I wasn't planning on adding it to my car because I have a CVT and I don't really see why I would ever need a turbo kit.

Just pointing it out to others.At least now we all know its a POS.

Thanks

[biggie]

Its just a universal kit and probably crap parts.

[Rand0m0sityxX]

i wouldn't touch it. it looks like it'd crap out.

As for the rebuild it sounds accurate. Usually if you get a after market turbo, you need to rebuild the engine at installation. Cuz the motor isn't built to handle the turbo from the get go. Only motors built from factory are those that have a turbo from factory (like the SS/TC Cobalt, etc.)

[silverarrow27]

i wouldn't touch it. it looks like it'd crap out.

As for the rebuild it sounds accurate. Usually if you get a after market turbo, you need to rebuild the engine at installation. Cuz the motor isn't built to handle the turbo from the get go. Only motors built from factory are those that have a turbo from factory (like the SS/TC Cobalt, etc.)

http://www.ka-t.org

[Promise Land]

After seeing how much other stuff is offered for entry level cars (like the Yaris, Civic, Fit, etc.), when is someone going to try for something like camshafts, stroker crankshafts, etc.? All everyone asks for is a turbo kit. Why no superchargers? There used to be a kit for a 1.8L Civic years ago. I'd like some more low end torque and HP rather than more HP at 5,000+ rpm. I rarely ever go above 3500rpm driving around. I don't drag race, or plan to AutoX anytime soon.

[Shad0wXCalibur]

I rarely ever go above 3500rpm driving around. I don't drag race, or plan to AutoX anytime soon.

Then neither is really necessary. Superchargers aren't popular on FWD econoboxes because the wheel spin would be crazy and the mileage would drop.

[silverarrow27]

After seeing how much other stuff is offered for entry level cars (like the Yaris, Civic, Fit, etc.), when is someone going to try for something like camshafts, stroker crankshafts, etc.? All everyone asks for is a turbo kit. Why no superchargers? There used to be a kit for a 1.8L Civic years ago. I'd like some more low end torque and HP rather than more HP at 5,000+ rpm. I rarely ever go above 3500rpm driving around. I don't drag race, or plan to AutoX anytime soon.

If you wanted low end torque and hp, slap on a T2 turbo and you're good to go. That's the sweet thing about turbochargers, you can mix and match to your liking.

And if you rarely ever go above 3500 rpm driving around, then why worry about power?

[Promise Land]

And if you rarely ever go above 3500 rpm driving around, then why worry about power?

Because some day I may just want to tinker with the car after the warranty expires and I get some higher miles on it. By then I may want to do something nutty like make it a drag car or a RWD drift car with a V6.

Anyone know if CA18 engine parts will transfer over to the MR18?

[biggie]

Anyone know if CA18 engine parts will transfer over to the MR18?

Without looking I'm sure they won't. Completely different engines.

[Promise Land]

I know this is such a dead topic, but where is the kit that Tyler_of_Spain bought from Fox Marketing? I have seen him say he has it but the turbo is dead, then a few people offer to buy it, and then silence. Who has this kit? I asked Fox Marketing for their design this morning so I can possibly duplicate it for mine in the future. Most places will do a one-off kit for it if I can leave the car with them (and most shops are in another state) and the price to do it will be high. I can do it myself probably with enough time and patience.

[biggie]

There are MANY unanswered questions on that kit. Including what they did to manage the ECU/Fuel/Timing and believe Tyler said he was running it without upgraded injectors, etc. A lot of shady things.

[Promise Land]

According to the Fox website, they had larger injectors on that car. I sent them an email and Brian Fox (of Fox Marketing) left me a message to call him about the kit. I will try to get as much info from him as possible. I think the kit was legit in most respects, but it would probably need to be detuned for daily driving. Maybe 200hp is a good target instead of 270hp as they said it made. Stillen gave me some advice on building a kit also because they aren't going to do one.

[biggie]

According to the Fox website, they had larger injectors on that car. I sent them an email and Brian Fox (of Fox Marketing) left me a message to call him about the kit. I will try to get as much info from him as possible. I think the kit was legit in most respects, but it would probably need to be detuned for daily driving. Maybe 200hp is a good target instead of 270hp as they said it made. Stillen gave me some advice on building a kit also because they aren't going to do one.

Yes, they said they had larger injectors, but Tyler said he didn't buy them and ran it on stock fuel setup.

I've still never seen Fox explain what was done for ECU/fuel/timing tuning.

[Red Devil]

I thought the kit was a one-off designed by ZPI?

[Codelicious]

I think the kit was legit in most respects, but it would probably need to be detuned for daily driving. Maybe 200hp is a good target instead of 270hp as they said it made. Stillen gave me some advice on building a kit also because they aren't going to do one.

I thought that the Versa's engine couldn't handle the Turbo. Am I wrong, or would it just need some MASSIVE upgrades to make it work without damaging the engine?

I really want to get a Supercharger just because of the fact that I have a CVT and Supercharges supposedly give you the power constantly unlike the Turbo.

This probably costs a couple of grand I suppose also?How do you "build" your own Turbo, do you just mix and match from other ones..?

[audtatious]

I've still never seen Fox explain what was done for ECU/fuel/timing tuning.

From what I understand they did nothing with any of it, left it all stock.

[biggie]

From what I understand they did nothing with any of it, left it all stock.

But it had upgraded injectors, no way they ran everything else stock. At least a SAFC, but I wouldn't trust a turbo setup just running off of that.

[audtatious]

I'm not so sure about that. Hal was pulling over 500hp on the stock Maxima injectors so I don't see why the QR injectors could not have handled an additional 80hp +/-

[Skim302]

I think the kit was legit in most respects.

The kit might have been legit but I thought Fox marketing screwed a bunch of people over. I might be wrong because it was awhile ago but I think they were accepting money for parts and never shipping the parts. Then one day they magically vanished. Once again I don't know if I'm completly right so don't take this to heart.

[audtatious]

It wasn't Fox, it was the tuner company who Fox used to do the Versa, IIRC.

[biggie]

I'm not so sure about that. Hal was pulling over 500hp on the stock Maxima injectors so I don't see why the QR injectors could not have handled an additional 80hp +/-

This is an MR and they listed usin 440cc injectors, claimed 275whp so no way stock.

[audtatious]

While that may be true, Hal's VQ30 was rated 190hp stock and he was dyno'd at 500+ with stock internals and stock injectors.

[biggie]

While that may be true, Hal's VQ30 was rated 190hp stock and he was dyno'd at 500+ with stock internals and stock injectors.

Would depend on the flow rate of the injectors I guess. I don't have a clue what the Max's injectors are. I would guess the Versa's are no higher than 270cc.

[Promise Land]

I made some phone calls and got some info on the Fox setup. It was originally done by Turbochargers.com out of Houston. The kit was a one-off job so they didn't make any jigs for mass production. To do another one, you'd need to give them the car for a week and about $5k for the system. That includes the kit and the tuning. If you have a 5-speed manual, you'll need to spec a better clutch as the OEM one will not hold the HP. Supposedly the Versas run a tad rich from the factory and the stock injectors can handle the turbo setup without upgrading them for more flow. I assume the "tuning" included in the setup would take care of the timing retardation if needed. The original one from Fox was driven about 10k miles before the kit was sold to Tyler. The guys I talked to have no idea why the turbo would have let go, or whatever happened to Tyler's Versa. Theirs had no problems after it was done and they drove it hard enough to see if they could break it.

[Codelicious]

That doesn't sound too bad. 5k for the whole deal.Does anyone know if this company also does Superchargers?

I have a CVT so a supercharger would be ideal since it constantly gives you power right..? Or is putting one in a CVT just plain stupid?

Ideas?Suggestions?

[z_versa]

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