Versa SE-R

[yunwoo]

Do you think that Versa will have SER version , like sentra SER or specV ?

I decide to put a letter "R" behind the SL in the back , to make my own SL-R version Versa

[generic808]

Not gonna happen! The SE-R badging was reserved exclusively for the Sentra except for 05-06 Altima's to boost slumping sales.

[evoxpisces]

I heard rumors that they might be making a Nismo Versa

[TrustME]

A Nismo Versa would be nice, but I never see that happening. Although I read something a WHILE back about two Nismo sponsored track cars. Forgot what competition it was in, I'll try and find it tomorrow.

[Great White Versa]

I heard rumors that they might be making a Nismo Versa

Its in wikipedia... so it MUST be true

That would be sweet, though.

[gotak]

It'll be a "very limited" edition like the Civic Type R LX you see on the streets.

I have consider taking off my R and putting on an X on my car. Maybe also a Y as well.

[Ever Victorious]

I've got a Versa Type U.

Very adept at making U-turns in the morning when I forget things at home. Like my tools, or security badge.

[KimberKenobi]

Not gonna happen! The SE-R badging was reserved exclusively for the Sentra except for 05-06 Altima's to boost slumping sales.

I have refrained from peeing in any ponds for awhile... so why not start now!

You stated that the SE-R badging was reserved exclusively for the Sentra... which would definitely make us believe that it wouldn't be a possibility for the Versa...

then you state that an exception was made for the '05-'06 Altima

Thereby leaving open the possibility for an exception to be made for a Versa...

[l80_240]

nissan already made the protos, ive seen them, well, tiidas and yes the tiidas race its in the china touring car series.nismo s-tune versa



versa se-r

s-tune parts for the tiida and thats about $17,000 for the s-tune tiida

[Rockhound]

You stated that the SE-R badging was reserved exclusively for the Sentra... which would definitely make us believe that it wouldn't be a possibility for the Versa...

then you state that an exception was made for the '05-'06 Altima

Yeah, I found that 'caveat' pretty hilarious, especially after his emphatic "No way!".

[gtrisfun]

why wouldn't they make a US/Canada versa SER? our engines are already the largest displacement in stock models. what (production) engine would be the option, either the MR20DE - sentra 2.0 (which is just a bump up from the MR18DE) or the QR25DE - sentra SER/spec-v, rogue (which i think is too big to shoe horn under theo hood for production)?

after all, the sentra was the entry level car in our market. i'd love to see a MR20DE-T powered versa hatch with a sportier suspension!

[Great White Versa]

In the image that l80_240 posted you can see where it labels the engine as the MR18DE. So unless there is some major US emissions problem I can't imagine why they wouldn't sell it here. I would buy one. Or at least buy the tuner parts developed because of it.

[Ever Victorious]

Part of the point of that is that the base engine for the Japanese TIIDA is the HR15 or HR16 1.5 or 1.6L... so the MR18DE is a huge step up in power.

I think the equivalent step up would be the MR20DE... which would probably make a fine Versa SE-R as long as Nissan vowed not to make the SE-R heavier, like most "performance" lines end up being.

[nchopp]

Part of the point of that is that the base engine for the Japanese TIIDA is the HR15 or HR16 1.5 or 1.6L... so the MR18DE is a huge step up in power.

I think the equivalent step up would be the MR20DE... which would probably make a fine Versa SE-R as long as Nissan vowed not to make the SE-R heavier, like most "performance" lines end up being.

Part of that comes from the fact that the engines are typically heavier. Plus, people seem to think that a "performance" package or style should come along with luxury options.

[gotak]

A 1.8 Versa with an SE R at the back would be just like a Matrix xR. R for the same engine with maybe a better suspension. As in really not going to impress the NA market where people are like "POWER!!!" a la Jeremy Clarkson.

About the upgraded interior I do like my better interior over the base Sentra 2.0 one. Lighted gauges are just so much easier to glance at then unlighted one during the day time.

[Ever Victorious]

Depends on how big of a change in the engine we're talking about here. The difference, weight wise, between an MR18 and an MR20 would be minimal.

And yes, it is super silly that more luxury options are added on to "sport" models. It should be exactly the opposite. But then again, most NA buyers forget that weight is your enemy.

[Wings]

There's no reason not to make a SE-R. The SE-R was not only for the Sentra. The SE-R is supposed to be a combination of performance and luxury. It is to improve all aspects of the car. It's not purely a performance package like some believe. It is a high level trim package. Some nice suede racing buckets, the 2.0 from the Sentra, performance springs, struts, sway bar, 17" rims, tires, intake and exhaust should about do it.

[generic808]

You stated that the SE-R badging was reserved exclusively for the Sentra... which would definitely make us believe that it wouldn't be a possibility for the Versa...

then you state that an exception was made for the '05-'06 Altima

Thereby leaving open the possibility for an exception to be made for a Versa...

I've been driving Nissan's for over 14 years and I don't see it happening. How do I know? Let's just say it's a hunch. I'm pretty sure the SE-R badging will never show itself on another Nissan again besides on the Sentra. If they would've used the SE-R label on any other models, the current 350Z would've had it instead of the Nismo package. But, never say never, right?

[Great White Versa]

I've been driving Nissan's for over 14 years and I don't see it happening. How do I know? Let's just say it's a hunch. I'm pretty sure the SE-R badging will never show itself on another Nissan again besides on the Sentra. If they would've used the SE-R label on any other models, the current 350Z would've had it instead of the Nismo package. But, never say never, right?

It would be equally logical to say that there are no 350Z SE-Rs because they don't use the S, SE etc... naming convention with the 350Z.

[Ever Victorious]

Semantics aside, generic808, they're referring to having a sports model in general. Doesn't matter what it's called.

[KimberKenobi]

I've been driving Nissan's for over 14 years and I don't see it happening. How do I know? Let's just say it's a hunch. I'm pretty sure the SE-R badging will never show itself on another Nissan again besides on the Sentra. If they would've used the SE-R label on any other models, the current 350Z would've had it instead of the Nismo package. But, never say never, right?

I generally don't have any thoughts either way, I just like playing devil's advocate and it was too easy to point out the loop in your statement... that's just me.

and I squint a lot...

[motoguy128]

I could see a version with a retuned version of the 2.0L out of the Sentra. Since the Versa is a little lighter than the Sentra, you can trade a little power at the bottom end for more peak HP. Throw in some 17's and a slightly lowered (1/2"), "sport tuned" supension and some cosmetic ground effects air dams front and rear along with a cheesy wing, and you might have a winner, without breaking the bank. Toss in some two tone cloth and price it about $1500 more than the SL 6-speed or CVT, offer it with both transmissions.

I agree that automakers are afraid to offer luxury packages on economy cars. I think they'd be suprised that quite a few would consider some extras such as a 6 way power seat, leather, heated seats, 16" wheels, and maybe a trip computer... along all SL options,

[generic808]

Semantics aside, generic808, they're referring to having a sports model in general. Doesn't matter what it's called.

I'm tellin' you guys, it's not going to happen. Nissan uses the Versa as it's entry level economy car. If they offered an SE-R version, or any "sport" version for that matter, you're looking at $2-$4K+, if you factor in the price of a larger motor, bigger wheels, sport suspension, and interior tweaks, which would put it in the price range of a Sentra. Now why would Nissan overlap price points with their entry level vehicles? I'd rather get a Sentra with the bigger motor in the first place, than an upgraded Versa with the Sentra motor in it. Think about it guys, it doesn't make sense. Why lose sales of Sentra's, which are more expensive, to boost sales of the lower cost Versa?

[Ever Victorious]

Nissan already HAS lost Sentra sales to the Versa. When the Versa first came out, some Nissan dealers had to practically GIVE away the '06's because they were so much more expensive, yet lacked in features and space compared to the V.

Having driven both the new V and the new Sentra, I'd have to disagree with your assessment. I'd rather have the V. It's cheaper to load up, has similar gas mileage and similar performance (as the Sentra is heavier and offsets the "advantage" of its 2.0L)

We've even had a couple members here when they join up to admitting that they originally were looking for a Sentra, and ended up buying a Versa instead.

[biggie]

Salesman do push the Sentra to potential Versa buyers. They did it to me. Trying to use the 2.0L as being more hp, etc. Then I explained the usefulness of the hatch to me and the lighter car and slightly better mpg. They shutup quickly after that.

[generic808]

Nissan already HAS lost Sentra sales to the Versa. When the Versa first came out, some Nissan dealers had to practically GIVE away the '06's because they were so much more expensive, yet lacked in features and space compared to the V.

Having driven both the new V and the new Sentra, I'd have to disagree with your assessment. I'd rather have the V. It's cheaper to load up, has similar gas mileage and similar performance (as the Sentra is heavier and offsets the "advantage" of its 2.0L)

We've even had a couple members here when they join up to admitting that they originally were looking for a Sentra, and ended up buying a Versa instead.

The whole point of this thread was the OP asking if an SE-R version will become available, not arguing which car is better or has more interior space. So basically you're saying that they'll make an SE-R version? I guess we'll have to wait and see. My guess is a big NOPE. Only time will tell, right? But I'm telling you, it's not going to happen.

[biggie]

The whole point of this thread was the OP asking if an SE-R version will become available, not arguing which car is better or has more interior space. So basically you're saying that they'll make an SE-R version? I guess we'll have to wait and see. My guess is a big NOPE. Only time will tell, right? But I'm telling you, it's not going to happen.

He's saying the same, that it will not happen. Due to the Versa already being more appealing to potential Sentra buyers(interior space, etc), Nissan will not make the Versa better to draw more away from the Sentra which already has 3 levels.

[Ever Victorious]

Actually, I didn't say anything either way. I just commented on a couple points that I found odd through this thread.

Personally I'd like to see a package where they take an S without power package, give it a sport suspension and an MR20 or find some other performance package for the engine, then strip out some excess weight. Of course, that will never happen.

It is, however, reminiscent of the Neon ACR. Ignoring for a moment the fact that it's a Dodge, it was, performance-wise, a pretty good improvement over the Neon of the day. They attained it by removing most of the power systems, removing most of the sound deadening, and putting in their top-trim sport suspension and engine. It was a blast, and it was also quite popular with autocrossers.

But... for everyday, my SL is perfect for me.

[generic808]

When you say ACR, do you mean the SRT4? Sorry I'm not familiar with the Dodge line. I've never driven it or know of anyone who has, but it's supposedly a fun little car to drive. I've heard the interior of those things are terrible though. I personally wouldn't buy one of those things, but to each their own.

[Ever Victorious]

No, I meant ACR. Stands for American Club Racing. they were a trimline of the original 1st gen Neon. A sports model that was truly made for sports.. you couln't get power windows on it... I don't think you could even get A/C on it either.