"Venom" Energy Drink Oil Catch Can

[4drmadness]

hey nate, what do you think are the gains you got from the blox spacer? i know u recently dynoed, so what was the difference between the baseline for your car and how much your car got with the blox on.

[Sentientbydesign]

Start a new thread, or I can move this one for you. You're thread jacking everywhere! lol

I never did a baseline without the blox. I THINK it benefits the top end and sacrafices low end torque.

[4drmadness]

thts true, i am thread jacking , lol, i shall stop now.

[BrandAidDesignG35]

OK, I think I will do it!!! Thanks for this thread Nate! I will maybe use a nice stainless bottle I got from work, it's heavy duty and looks like the nismo one. So... 15 minutes you say? I'll finish in an hour or three.

I'll get some pics up later!!! I'm psyched... Planning to try the throttle body bypass... but I may start that on my Altima I don't want to freeze the throttle open on my G, it's still kinda cold here.

Oh, and to you threadjacker, Nate is right, gains above 4.5, and less power in the lower rpm... but when you're racing, you're only in the 4K + range, why I went with Blox. Less tire spin off the line, moderate acceleration from 1.5K - 3... explosive past 5K, like a screaming eagle or something really obnoxious.Sorry Nate...

[4drmadness]

haha thanks. makes sense. im getting a deal for the nrg oil catch can, might go with that, cause its all polished

[Sentientbydesign]

I hope everybody realizes that I don't care which oil catch can you go with. Mine will always be better

To be completely honest though, I would make one over buying a cheap eBay can. Also, be sure that the can you get has some type of baffles or other coalescing material. The best are done via centifugal "force", but are expensive and hard to come by.

Also, don't be a fool and assume that an OCC is expensive, therefore it must work well .

-Ideal OCC has some sort of coalescing feature.-Easy to install and remove-Easy to drain-Has a visual level-Does NOT allow direct flow from inlet to outlet (you want that oil in the can, not out the outlet.

[4drmadness]

yea thts true, i need to check if it actually works. haha. i was like its nrg, it should be good

[Sentientbydesign]

Making the can



We're going to start by measuring and drilling the holes for the level.

Take a look at the picture. The red circles are where we're going to make the level holes. There are couple of things to consider here:

1) The bottom of my bottle was concave (green line-most will be). You want the lower level as close to the bottom as possible, BUT you don't want the drill bit or the elbow to hit the bottom of the can. As such, I estimated where the "floor" of the can was and drilled my hole above that.

2) For the sake of aesthetics and efficiency, you'll want the two holes straight. I did this by finding the label "overlap" (basically, they print on the cans and this is where the print overlaps itself).

3) The top hole should be below the tapered portion of the bottle (red dashed line). Otherwise you end up with a bent level.

Drill the holes

You're going to want to use a drill bit that is the same size or just SLIGHTLY larger than the outer diameter (OD) of the elbow.

Once the holes are drilled, you can use sand paper or a dremel grinding bit to debur the edges. You'll also want to remove about a 1/4" radius of paint off of the bottle (so the epoxy will stick).

Test Fit

Take the two elbows and put them into the holes. Then measure out the length of clear hose you'll need. Be sure your measurements include the area that overlaps the barbed fitting and not just the distance between the elbows (I did this )

Cut the hose to size and install it on the barbed fittings.

Epoxy putty

I love this stuff. It is very strong and has a pretty high heat rating. The way this stuff works is it has an outer layer of putty and an inner layer of putty. When the two are kneaded together, they start reacting. Since the two have a specific ratio, you'll want to use a knife and cut off sections of it (think of slicing bread).

Only cut off enough for 1 fitting at a time (this stuff hardens very quickly, so you don't have much time). Knead the putty until it's uniform in color, then roll it into a small "snake" that's just long enough to go around the elbow.

Note: It's better to make the "snake" too short, than too long. When it's too long, it has a tendency of buckling and you don't get a good seal.

Put the "snake" around the elbow and make sure it's tight, then stick it into the hole. The goal is to get some of the putty into the hole. Once it's in, press on the putty firmly to build the mount around the elbow. If you want it to look nice, you can wet your finger and smooth out the putty before it hardens.

I pressure checked and "vacuum" sealed the putty by sucking air through the mouth piece and covering the other hole. This isn't the most technical method of doing this, but it serves two purposes:

1) To check for a good seal.2) To make a good seal...Say what? "Make" a good seal?---Yes, when you apply vacuum to the bottle, the putty will be drawn into the bottle and will fill in any gaps, making a very tight seal.

Repeat this process for the second elbow.

This is the point at which I'd stop working on the can and let it sit overnight. You don't have to, but it makes life easier, because the epoxy will be cured the next time you work on it.

Making the Baffles

This is the hardest part of the whole project. You'll need to take an aluminum can and cut out the flat vertical portion. BE VERY CAREFUL. It will cut you!!!

Try to salvage as much of the flat part as possible.

Once you've cut it, you'll need to get your utility knife out and start cutting vents.

Here's a good template:



3.25" x 2" (a little wider won't hurt). Black rectangles need to be cut out. Black triangles need to be cut out. Solid lines cut. Dashed lines folded.

You want it to look like this:



For the record: I HATE diet sodas. Artificial sweeteners are the anti-christ!

More to come...

[Jacko3]

Wow! I have never had any of these issues before. Maybe it is there but I have never seen it before. Last time I replaced my spark plugs at 30K, they were so good, i could have sold them on e-bay even after 30,000 miles of punishing my G.

Anyway, is that picture of a modified air filter for a B-13???? Looks nice!! My thinking is that the OEM air box of the B-13 is superb and excellent--allows enough air and keeps heat out. Its actually better than the air box of the OEM G-35. In fact, once it starves for air or gets too warm, even by a small bit and amount, it actually starts acting up and its RPM starts going bonkers. The B13 is a car that loves to breathe in---don't starve it for air. It already knows how to breathe out. My experience is that exposing its air element seems to drop its horspower and responsiveness. thats why i have never considered using a cold air intake for a B-13, at least lately. A K&N filter works excellently for the B-13.

[Sentientbydesign]

Haven't checked the spark plugs as new ones were installed with the revised engine.

The oil I found was in the plenum. A nice brown/yellow coating of it

The intake was in an I30 (Infiniti's Maxima). I can't say that I got any HP, but throttle response was much better. That car sounded like a beast (and it was!!!). I got quite a few people asking me if it was a V8 because of the intake and aftermarket muffler. The sound was much nicer than the G's

[4drmadness]

btw how do u do all of this. i feel so stupid looking at ur threads

[Sentientbydesign]

btw how do u do all of this. i feel so stupid looking at ur threads

If you stopped modding for the hell of it and actually started doing some research, you might find yourself making something cool.

The way I'm going, I'll have to open up a company and start paying Greg Sponsorship money lol.

[kmech_7]

If you stopped modding for the hell of it and actually started doing some research, you might find yourself making something cool.

The way I'm going, I'll have to open up a company and start paying Greg Sponsorship money lol.

Ya...I know how ya feel....lol...BTW the plenum is almost done.

[Sentientbydesign]

Ya...I know how ya feel....lol...BTW the plenum is almost done.

Shhhhh. I want to be the first person with one (other than you).

[4drmadness]

i see some modding goin on over here . u dint tell me

[kmech_7]

i mean.....uhmm...whats a plenum?

dont worry you will be the 1st(2nd)....

[Sentientbydesign]

Bump, just because I'm going to make another one of these tonight.

[audtatious]

Bump, just because I'm going to make another one of these tonight.

This time, document the process of building the bottle, parts, etc. Show installation pix on the car too

[Sentientbydesign]

Bump, just because I'm going to make another one of these tonight.

This time, document the process of building the bottle, parts, etc. Show installation pix on the car too

I just got all of the parts to do this yesterday. Actually, I'll be manufacturing a catch can based on the principles of this one, but into a "real" can later on.

Until then, you guys can make your own. Tony wants me to install one on the Evo and one on his Mazdaspeed 3. I told him he's nuts. My evo is boosting 25PSI!!!