V-Mount setup....

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Rosco
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Alright, I haven't started my SR swap yet (waiting until it gets a little warmer here). I have yet to buy an intercooler and aftermarket radiator. I have been contemplating running a V-mount setup for my redtop (S13 Chassis). I beleive this setup will help better cool the rad and intercooler. I have yet to find a site that sells the materials or kit to do this. Keep in mind that I don't or never have welded. Can someone tell me some advantages and disadvantages to this setup? Also anyone point me in the right direction as to DIY's or a site that sells a kit to do this?


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i have done 2 setups the intercooler and radiato is all one pice and it sells for $1850 it works veri god and quick resp.

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I've got a question about that kit. The filler cap would then be much lower than much of the coolant pathways, so how does that affect its ability to dispense air and excess coolant into the overflow tank?

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Rosco wrote:Alright, I haven't started my SR swap yet (waiting until it gets a little warmer here). I have yet to buy an intercooler and aftermarket radiator. I have been contemplating running a V-mount setup for my redtop (S13 Chassis). I beleive this setup will help better cool the rad and intercooler. I have yet to find a site that sells the materials or kit to do this. Keep in mind that I don't or never have welded. Can someone tell me some advantages and disadvantages to this setup? Also anyone point me in the right direction as to DIY's or a site that sells a kit to do this?
Advantages of the V-mount setup include less piping, so less pressure loss and better throttle response, and it can cool better if there is sufficient ducting to direct air flow. A vented hood would make a big difference in the cooling of the intercooler. However, I think the success of the system depends heavily on how well the ducting is positioned. Also see my last post for further concerns. Even if it works like clockwork it would be quite a pain just to add coolant.

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So far the only thing keeping me away from doing this is the $1850 for the kit. Adding coolant would definately be a PITA, but if this is the only performance negative thing, then it seems worth it to do (as far as performance goes). I would like to find a cheaper solution to do this though. I mean you figure about $800.00 for a nice front mount w/piping and another $200 for a good rad and you got a functional setup. That extra $850.00 could be put into suspension. I really wish I could do this myself without screwing anything up. As for the Kit what exactly do I get? I'm gonna have to do some more thinking about this.

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if this is a street car, any front end impact will be devastating because you have to cut out the front radiator support i believe etc.


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Damn thats not good...another negative thing. I'm starting to lean toward the regular front mount setup now.

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unless you have a full on track car... you don't need a v-mount..

unless you want it just for the bling factor and be a poser and have tons of money just waiting to be burned...

I have yet to see an actual "kit" for a v-mount. no matter what anyone says... it's all fabrication... you have to cut/weld/redo a lot of stuff...

removing the bumper support and cutting the rad support is a must...

a good front mount and good working fans will work perfect for a daily driven/ sometimes track car...


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Agreed in regards to Anand's comments.

If anything the benefit you should be trying to obtain is response.

I point you to the SCC Project Silvia:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb....ilvia/

They made a custom mount behind the radiator support so they could mount the radiator and intercooler further back.


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no dissrespect to anyone when I say this BUT

I swear Im gonna smack the next kid that says they want a v-mount set-up for their daily driven show car that they will never take to the track.... just because it is cool...

again... this was not towards the started of this thread...just venting...

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Anand wrote:no dissrespect to anyone when I say this BUT

I swear Im gonna smack the next kid that says they want a v-mount set-up for their daily driven show car that they will never take to the track.... just because it is cool...

again... this was not towards the started of this thread...just venting...
lol

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Thanks for the responses guys.....I've decided against doing this after considering the costs and the fact that performance-wise it's not a HUGE improvement over a good front mount/fan/rad setup. I'm not making a full-on race car with my S13, so thier is no neccessity for this. I wasn't looking into doing this becuase the Signal Auto Twins have this done, rather I thought that this would provide more air to cool the radiator and intercooler to combat overheating issues I might have. I would still like to do this someday when I get better at drifting and overall driver skills first or get more money...lol, but it can wait. As for it being "bling"......The thought never once crossed my mind about it being done to look cool....that would be assanine (SP). No, I care more about performance than looks at this point, however that doesn't I'm not gonna make my engine bay as clean as it I can....Call that ricer, bling or whatever you want, I'll call it pride...

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dont you have to cut the bumper support to do a "normal" frontmount anyway... i mean i did.

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getnrowdy23 wrote:dont you have to cut the bumper support to do a "normal" frontmount anyway... i mean i did.
you have to cut it a little bit.... and you can also weld the peice that you cut out back on....

you still would have some protection... but for a v-mount, not only do you need to remove the bumper support but also the upper and lower radiator mount/support.... that is the bigger deal..

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I also agree with Anand..this is only practical for a full-on drift or roadrace car.

If you're concerned about cooling, ducting is the best way to improve it, regardless of the car's use. Gettin an upper radiator duct panel should help tremendously.

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Its all about keeping air pressure concentrated on your cooling cores (and not just the intercooler).


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