Uuggh, i cant decide ><

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Caboose
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ah i see, well by violent jerk i mean i it turns to the left real hard because one of the wheels accelerates a tad bit faster than the other, so he has to keep tight to keep the car in line


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Mr. Music
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Oh, ok. I mean, I don't own the 3.5, I only drove it that once, so I'd wait to see what a 3.5 owner has to say about it, or better yet, wait until you drive it! I was considering the Accord coupe too, but, the Altima is a bit cheaper (got it at invoice), and I like the way it felt on the road more than the Accord; and the Altima's looks and availability of after market parts sealed the deal for me! I Couldn't have made a better choice

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Caboose wrote:ah i see, well by violent jerk i mean i it turns to the left real hard because one of the wheels accelerates a tad bit faster than the other, so he has to keep tight to keep the car in line
I know what torque steer is, I had a 260+ hp v6 maxima 2004 and when you put the pedal to the metal, that thing was out of control! You had to hold on REAL tight.

But for the coupe, Nissan really proved that they got the engineering right. Their new D platform has NO TORQUE STEER AT ALL. ZERO. It's so symmetrical and well made that they eliminated it completely.


Shift_Altima
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mcheddadi wrote:
I know what torque steer is, I had a 260+ hp v6 maxima 2004 and when you put the pedal to the metal, that thing was out of control! You had to hold on REAL tight.

But for the coupe, Nissan really proved that they got the engineering right. Their new D platform has NO TORQUE STEER AT ALL. ZERO. It's so symmetrical and well made that they eliminated it completely.
Automatic cars have torque converters. Ever drive an Acura TL? Torque steer on the auto is non existant.. hop into a manual and it's awful. It may be the same for the altimas. Manual is different from auto. You have a manual Mcheddadi.. what's it like

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Shift_Altima wrote:
Automatic cars have torque converters. Ever drive an Acura TL? Torque steer on the auto is non existant.. hop into a manual and it's awful. It may be the same for the altimas. Manual is different from auto. You have a manual Mcheddadi.. what's it like
? like I said it's non existent. no torque steer on my car, nada, ZERO.

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I haven't noticed any torque steer or at least not enough for it to get my attention. I drove a turbocharged Scion pushing 320whp and that let loose some aggressive wheel action. I would have thought 270 at the crank might have been enough to get them moving but not the case.

Good point on the size of the A/C vs. the Accord. I never put my car side to side with one but in my head I thought the Accord was more sporty based on the aggressive body lines. Now that I think about it the Accord is much bigger in both the cabin and height, actually went to the dealership for an indoor car wash (-2° here) and next door to the Honda boys. I'm not a big guy either, 5'10 190lbs, so I'd have to agree now that the a/c is the sportier of the two.

I know Honda is known for quality materials but the premium package on the coupe finishes things off very nicely. And what ever you get, learn to drive stick…. It'll take you a day to get it down, a few solid hours maybe, but it's not a big thing. Really gives it a nice driving experience when pushing 270hp (accord or a/c). Unless that is you want the extra 1-2 miles to the gallon.

Hope the Honda guys aren't bashing the a/c over in your other forum......

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I gotta say i think the Accord looks mean as hell, however, I don't like the styling at all. Plus I drove a se-r before my altima and instantly fell in love with torque. Driving an accord your not gonna get that same umph however you'll kill an altima top end wise. I suggest you look at the caranddriver comparison.

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windex wrote:I gotta say i think the Accord looks mean as hell, however, I don't like the styling at all. Plus I drove a se-r before my altima and instantly fell in love with torque. Driving an accord your not gonna get that same umph however you'll kill an altima top end wise. I suggest you look at the caranddriver comparison.
What are you talking about kid…. just kidding about the kid thing. Both Altima and Accord have the same displacement (3.5L) and within 2hp at the crank, power curves would not be that different. . That and the Altima 3.5 is lighter at 3292lbs vs the Accord 3.5 at 3373lbs… They would be dead even if anything the advantage to the a/c. Just saying they're about one in the same

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My new desktop wallpaper



We need more pictures like this.....

Robs_altima
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Just a great comparison of smooth body lines....

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Robs_altima wrote:
What are you talking about kid…. just kidding about the kid thing. Both Altima and Accord have the same displacement (3.5L) and within 2hp at the crank, power curves would not be that different. . That and the Altima 3.5 is lighter at 3292lbs vs the Accord 3.5 at 3373lbs… They would be dead even if anything the advantage to the a/c. Just saying they're about one in the same
Just me watching a buncha races between SIs and Specs, Specs and tCs... Specs kill both cars easily from a dead stop or anything uder 20mph... but once you hit about 80-90 the SIs/tCs start pulling on the Specs... Anyway go check out all the reviews of altima vs accord... in the 1/4 mile accord has a higher mph... 60ft the altimas quicker... And by the way I thought it was a caranddriver comparison but it was a edmunds.com comparison.

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windex wrote:
Just me watching a buncha races between SIs and Specs, Specs and tCs... Specs kill both cars easily from a dead stop or anything uder 20mph... but once you hit about 80-90 the SIs/tCs start pulling on the Specs... Anyway go check out all the reviews of altima vs accord... in the 1/4 mile accord has a higher mph... 60ft the altimas quicker... And by the way I thought it was a caranddriver comparison but it was a edmunds.com comparison.
Here's a lesson, don't trust car magazines. Sure they have professionals driving these cars but every car is different. Put an Altima driver vs an Accord driver in a magazine for an accurate test.

Someone on another forum drives an Altima 3.5SE Sedan and he went up against an Accord Coupe V6 and walked him ever so slightly and both cars were stock. They both put down around the same whp on the dyno's (altima usually has more torque) but the added weight on the accord is why the altima usually pulls away.

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OK… I know you're not here defending the accords or hyping up a/c's, just telling it like you saw it. I'm just trying to get people to realize it's a drivers race. The accord doesn't have a huge increase in top end power. They're both the same peak so one can't have the advantage, especially if they both redline at the same rpm and have extremely similar gearing. Now if one were a CVT the opposing car would serge toward every time it reaches peak power, assuming the CVT loses slightly more power to the wheels.

I have also included 1/4 mile numbers submitted to drag times. Edmonds reported .1" of a second in their test. The difference in a race between these two could all come down to the launch. Were the cars both 6 speeds?

http://www.dragtimes.com/compa...re%21

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...ber=5


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