Using a stock turbo car's turbo manifold?

[junk240sx]

If it's been asked, I appologize because I could not find it.

I've always been into Honda's and for Accords and Civics, there are ways to use either a stock turbo manifold from a DSM (for accords) or use part of a stock hearder from a civic (two piece header) and cheaply turbo your car. There are a few who put together a decent turbo for around $500 running roughly 7-9psi.

I would assume there's others out here that don't see spending $3000 on your car for a turbo when you only bought your car for $1500. So I was wondering if anyone knows of any compatible turbo manifolds out there that would fit with little modification on the KA engine?

If not, then I would like to try to find out. I already have a few turbo manifolds sitting around (stock ones from junk yards) and I could also check other ones out.

[TrunkMonkey]

the only manifold i know of that can be used on a ka (sohc) is the z18et manifold. you'd need to rework the ports to match the ka24e's, but other than that, it's a direct bolt on.

i don't know of any manifold that would work for the ka24de. if you find something, please share it with us!

-demetrius

[daniel240]

if your good at welding, you can always make your own. if your wanting something cheap then the jgs tools manifold is your best option other than making your own.

[junk240sx]

Yea except you'll still spend ~$250 just for the parts it seems. I'm talking cheap like them honda boys do. They reuse a DSM manifold by just redrilling the bolt holes...you can buy a DSM used manifold for $50 at the junk yard.

[andrave]

shop around, you can get the parts for well under 100, cut your own flanges, and weld it up...if you buy a kit with precut flanges its a lot easier, but it will cost around 150 bucks or so.

[j-z]

hell yeah whatcha know bout dem honda boys? haha yeah its great that you can turbo a D for a couple hundred bucks. get a hf manifold or standard and get an adaptor plate made. i know exactly where youre coming from. im just gonna get one of those cheap *** ebay ones. its only $230. and that jgs tools is a ****ing rip. if it was like $100 i would buy that but god damn 300+ or whatever it is for a steel log mani?? thats just ridiculous. i dont know much about nissans as i do hondas so i cant really help you out buddy. i say just go with the bling bling ebay one.

[andrave]

what cheap ****ing ebay ones? 230 bucks? must have missed that

[vadem]

Yo mabie some people dont know but A JGS MANI IS ONLY 149.99, you can have a weld shop weld it for like 35-50. And have you ever tries cutting cast steel, its not that easy buddy, usually its pretty thick, its definatly going to take you about 10 minitues with a torch, to cut a 1 inch line. Why do all that dude just buy a jgs?

[daniel240]

and i would also trust the jgs tools manifold over some "cheap ebay manifold." i've heard many good things about them. but back to your original ? search around, but i think it would be hard to find a manifold that the runners line up. if there was one, then people here would probably be using it.

[j-z]

yeah ok i just went to the jgs site and checked it out. i was at some other site the other day and it had almost the same name but the log mani was like 300+ and you still had to weld the turbo flange on. i know its like that for a reason. but after going to the jgs site its pretty nice. i like the stuff they have on there. and yes 150 isnt bad at all to make your own mani. it also makes sense that if there was a cheap mani that would bolt on then there probably would be people using them.

[14.5drift]

can some one direct me to there sight, couldn't find it

[casman86]

Right here:http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/

I would go with the $250 one myself. So the log is 1-piece and all smooth on the inside.

[rco8786]

Right here:http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/

I would go with the $250 one myself. So the log is 1-piece and all smooth on the inside.

Mine should be here anyday now, just gotta weld up the flange and ill be set to go. Total price was 263 after shipping.

[casman86]

Do you know what kind of steel that $250 manifold is made out of? Is it stainless or is it just mild steel?

[TrunkMonkey]

mild steel.

-demetrius

[j-z]

has anyone here made a tubular type mani out of one of those kits? if so i would like to see some pics.

[andrave]

I'm buying one soon

[junk240sx]

Call me vain but I'm counting on the fact that no one thinks any stock turbo car's manifold doesn't fit because no one's really tried it. How did anyone find out a DSM (eclipse) turbo manifold would match up with an accord? trial and error.

Don't take me for cheap, I have another car i've been building for years (yea, laugh away....I started with honda's ok?). I have a fully built h22 (prelude) turbo engine dropped in an accord. I don't go cheap on that car...

but I just can't afford to go all out on two cars. If i can find a cheap way to turbo my 240, ghetto or not, I'm gonna go for it. :P

[j-z]

hey you know that the dsm mani also fits on the h23. anyways i think your best bet is to actually do some trial and error your self. go to the parts store and get a ka gasket. then do some research on all the factory turbo cars and make a list. then go back to the parts store and have them pull all the ones you got listed and compare. if you find a pattern thats kinda close see what the manifold actually looks like. to see if it would actually fit up in there physically. or see if theres a manifold thats in the form of the hf or standard mani where it all collects into the cat. and just get an adaptor plate made. im a cheap bastard too.i can make anything work. but i like to have nice things and do it clean. good luck on the research.

[j-z]

oh when im talking about having the parts store pull the ones on the list im refering to their gaskets. compare the ka gasket you bought and hit up all the parts stores in the area. uhh hopefully you get what im saying.

[daniel240]

the ka manifold gaskets are all separate, at least mine are. it would be easier and cheaper to trace your out on paper or something and make a cutout.

[red240ne]

does it really take 6-8 weeks to get the JGS mani.?

[randybunctious]

what is a z18et? from what car?

[andrave]

Call me vain but I'm counting on the fact that no one thinks any stock turbo car's manifold doesn't fit because no one's really tried it.

what did you just say?I keep rereading it and I can't figure it out.

z18 I don't know, I've heard of ca18et from S12 200sx..pretty cool little engine, I like those old boxes.

[JDNISMO]

I see that the jgstools manifold sells the t04 flange so am I to assume it can withstand decent PSI? Seems like the way to go to me, the z18et or whatever demcj says it only works on sohc.

[TrunkMonkey]

what is a z18et? from what car?

iirc, the z18et was the engine that powered the early 80s silvia or gazelle. you would need to import the manifold from either austrailia or japan (these are the only two places that i found vendors who sold them). at one time there was someone here in the states who sold them, but i don't have the info anymore.

and yes, it is only for the ka24e (sohc) engine.

-demetrius

[andrave]

and orignally from a 1.8 liter, I'm guessing its probably got a small T25 flange? or is it T3?yes the JGS tools mani will hold probably whatever you could throw at it.

[nismo1003]

Jgstools Manifold is nothing but 2 eblow weldable pipe , 2 T , and one thick plate with a T3 flange + runner, u have to pay over 250 plus shipping.I compare the price to a local plbuing store. they could sell me the same item that I listed above for only 40-60 bucks with everything..

[nismo1003]

I see that the jgstools manifold sells the t04 flange so am I to assume it can withstand decent PSI? Seems like the way to go to me, the z18et or whatever demcj says it only works on sohc.

The material that they used to make the manifold is bascially for high pressure gas pipe or extereme hot water pipe , for under ground water/gas system or other hevay duty application , they have a pretty thick wall sch 40 , so I believe it can withstand alot of heat.

[nismo1003]

does it really take 6-8 weeks to get the JGS mani.?

I don't think it's worth it to send them back and pay the extra money. I believe a COMPLETE Manifold by Jgstools, it costs more than 250. it's more likely 340 .paying shipping fee isn't that fun neither , plus to wait on it is annoying, I ordered mine and waited for 3 weeks just to get the manifold with the pieces (T3 flanges, runner) and i had to call them twice before they ship out the manifold, maybe this is just my case. however, find a local shop to weld it up for u.