USA is fugged up.. check this

Post by **MasterMan** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

http://targetpractice

i dont see how u can do that to another human, and they just talk about it like its a friggin videogame, wtf..

Post by **Phax** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

What's your point with this post? Are you surprised that killing can be done with such little emotion? War isn't a pretty thing, welcome to reality.

Post by **MasterMan** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

yes i know what war is about and i know that killing is part of it but damn they wernt puting the people in the hellacopters life at risk and to have no emotion about it is just horrable, true i dont know the reason behind the misson but there is no pont to go out and kill everything that is moving.. there is a jail system for a reason, why not capture the people? i can see killing somone if they are threting your life but that dosnt seem to be what was going on there.

Post by **stillmatic** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Tight video but

:eek::eek:

I don't understand why they would shoot defenseless people at night. It looks like they were on a reconnaissance mission. Where did you get the video from? I doubt they meant to kill any of them, because they would've proceeded to shoot the 3rd guy when he went down..

Post by **victim_of_a_down** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Did we watch the same video?

As the daughter of a former USAF pilot I really have mixed feelings about this. My father and I really aren't on speaking terms.

Post by **Mr1der** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

like playing halo with friends...

it's professionalism, they're not yelling "oh yeah take that rag head" or anything like that, they just have a job to do and do it.

Ever seen the video of the SWAT cops giving high fives after shooting and killing some idiot that hijacked a bus load of kids?

the media ragged on them for that, but they did it more of a way to hide the stress and emotions they felt I'm sure. People have weird ways going about unwanted acts like that and relieving the stress...

better to joke about it and get it out than to bottle up and let it haunt you.

Post by **catty** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

stillmatic wrote:Tight video but :eek::eek:I doubt they meant to kill any of them, because they would've proceeded to shoot the 3rd guy when he went down..

Um...yea they did, looked like they were trying to kill all three, definatly screwed up.

Post by **Bluefire** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

What do you want the pilots to say then... "hey guys I don't think this is right killing people. let's just land our helicopter and hand cuff them, so we can take them to prison." Emotion means hesitation, and that means your risking your life and the lives of your comrades.

Secondly one of those vehicles looked like it could have been some type of AA gun, or how do you know those trucks didn't have RPG's or something in there. You think those pilots are gonna wait for those guys to fire at them first?

There quick decision making is the reason you get to sit behind your computer and post up "USA is fugged up...."

-Bluefire

Post by **themadscientist** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Don't post crap like this, this is a car Forum and a lot of people don't want to see that.

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Tru dat.

BTW, I got a few complaints about the vid, so it's OTB now.

Thanks y'all.

Post by **crzycav86** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Videos of people getting killed are gross.

A person sent me a video of a guy getting his throat slit, and it haunted me for many nights.. don't be like that. People will hate you for it.

Post by **themadscientist** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

I got the same video, I was disturbed about it for a while as well. I tore into the freind who sent it to me, not cool. I just hope that guy's family NEVER sees that.

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Agreed.

There's enough terrible images out there - these are disturbing times.

Be careful what you feed your mind, you never know what you may be exposed to that becomes the "last straw."

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

does anyone watch cartoons anymore?

-demetrius

Post by **Mr1der** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

oh man do I!

jonesin' for some old school TMNT...

Post by **leftovercrizack** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

I hear there's some video, of a guy who has his armed tied to jeeps, and the drive in opposite directions, never seen it, just heard about it from friends. Sounds pretty sick.

Post by **themadscientist** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

King of the hill and Southpark baby!

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

I have plenty of friends and family that are/were in the service. I prefer to not pass judgement on the transgression of war and I think that the cable news services do a dis-service to the Military and our society. How can I begin to understand the stress, the mission and the mentality of being at war? I can empathize but not really understand.

Post by **S13240** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

check out http://www.projectcensored.org and read the news there.

Post by **Jesda** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

So when's Family Guy coming back on the air?

Post by **BoostFab** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

themadscientist wrote:King of the hill and Southpark baby!

that too, and the simpsons still rocks

Post by **MasterMan** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Bluefire wrote:What do you want the pilots to say then... "hey guys I don't think this is right killing people. let's just land our helicopter and hand cuff them, so we can take them to prison." Emotion means hesitation, and that means your risking your life and the lives of your comrades.

Secondly one of those vehicles looked like it could have been some type of AA gun, or how do you know those trucks didn't have RPG's or something in there. You think those pilots are gonna wait for those guys to fire at them first?

There quick decision making is the reason you get to sit behind your computer and post up "USA is fugged up...."

-Bluefire

do you really think that if we left iraq alone they would of attacked the united states on our soil? i seriously dobt it.. if we never started a war over there and put the money toward somthing els, like oh maby the school systems, then i would still be sitting here infront of my computer.. i have nothing aginst fighting for your country, if we didnt have people fighting for this country then we wouldnt be a country at all, but the fact is we didnt find any nukes in iraq, or anything that could do america alot of harm, and from what i have seen because of what we have done iraq is in a vary bad state at the moment.. im not trying to start a fight with you, you have your own views and i have mine, and no one will ever be right or wrong here.. but thats my veiw and im sticking to it..

Post by **89240sx** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

<--- trying very hard not to comment on this thread

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

<---- Trying very hard to ignore the fact that some people type and type and type, knowing full well what happens to political threads on NICO....

Post by **Nathan** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

In before the lock! (I'll restrain my comments as well

)

Post by **Bluefire** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

MasterMan wrote:do you really think that if we left iraq alone they would of attacked the united states on our soil? i seriously dobt it.. if we never started a war over there and put the money toward somthing els, like oh maby the school systems, then i would still be sitting here infront of my computer.. i have nothing aginst fighting for your country, if we didnt have people fighting for this country then we wouldnt be a country at all, but the fact is we didnt find any nukes in iraq, or anything that could do america alot of harm, and from what i have seen because of what we have done iraq is in a vary bad state at the moment.. im not trying to start a fight with you, you have your own views and i have mine, and no one will ever be right or wrong here.. but thats my veiw and im sticking to it..

To me that is not even the issue, because everyone will have differing views of whether or not we should have gone to iraq... The problem I have is that our brothers and sisters are out there this very moment risking there lives. Before the war started I did not want our troops to get involved in this war. But now that they are, they need our full support. Not people telling them how wrong it is to kill people.

Simple analogy... your boys are about to get in a fight with some other people for a reason you think is stupid. Obviously your gonna try and cool things. But what happens when they start scrappin. You gonna stand there and tell them how fugged up they are for fighting or are you gonna back them up...

That's how I feel, I know this is an ugly war and the reasons behind it might not be just, but the fact is our guys are over there now and they need our full support

-Bluefire

Post by **yashin** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

yes, let's all blindly support the troops :rolleyes

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/....html

figured i'd get this in before the thread gets locked

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:34 am

Yes, let's do.

It's one thing to not support the US administration (that's understandable in many instances). But not supporting the troops is treasonable (and should result in deportation) in my opinion.

People are just doing their jobs so you can have the freedom to sit here and spout off on a web board (which could cost you your tongue in some countries).

Anyway, thanks for forcing me to use the keys.

USA is fugged up.. check this

USA is fugged up.. check this

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