UPREV tuned without dyno?

[svard75]

Hi All,

Have an appointment for an uprev tune but the guy said he doesn't have an AWD dyno so he'll just give me the street tune. Is this recommended? Thoughts?

[Ilya]

Mine is street tuned.

I datalog for UpRev and then send them the logs and they create my tunes. Could someone with a dyno squeeze some more out of the car? Sure. But I'm sure my tune is just fine.

[svard75]

Okay thanks IlyaKol. BTW how to you download the data? Do you have a cable and software?

[CPJ LB]

PM Seymore4 he's the Uprev tuning wiz

I vouch for him

[Ilya]

Okay thanks IlyaKol. BTW how to you download the data? Do you have a cable and software?

Yes. I use their cable and the Cipher software.

[cruzad3r]

did you guys just buy the cipher cable for 200 bucks or the more expensive one? please clarify, thanks

[DeanM45]

Yep, PM Seymore4 and he will fill you in on all the costs and procedures. He is my tuner and he's never seen my car -- he's GOOD!

[seymore4]

Yes you can tune with uprev without going on the dyno, and for most guys I actually recommend doing it that way. (PM me) With the $500 Osiris standard package you get the tune license, cable that lets you reflash, datalog, check and clear codes, etc, and etuning (remote tuning based on datalogs that you make while driving around).

95% of uprev tuners don't have an AWD dyno, and the ones that DO are usually big subbie/evo shops and only do Uprev tuning on the side.. so they're probably not the most experienced with it.

There's absolutely no advantage to having the guy ride around with you and street tune the car unless he's giving you a really good deal; you'll get a better tune from etuning with datalogs (more time to analyze them, see how it reacts over time, etc not just a one shot deal), and you own the cable so you can always reflash back to stock and sell it used later on, use it on a different vehicle, as well as reflash updates later on without having to make an appointment and go back to the shop (more $$$). When you get tuned there all you have is the license flashed onto the ecu and no way to remove it later on... bye bye $600

@Dean thanks for the support!

[Hatsuharu]

Yes you can tune with uprev without going on the dyno, and for most guys I actually recommend doing it that way. (PM me) With the $500 Osiris standard package you get the tune license, cable that lets you reflash, datalog, check and clear codes, etc, and etuning (remote tuning based on datalogs that you make while driving around).

95% of uprev tuners don't have an AWD dyno, and the ones that DO are usually big subbie/evo shops and only do Uprev tuning on the side.. so they're probably not the most experienced with it.

There's absolutely no advantage to having the guy ride around with you and street tune the car unless he's giving you a really good deal; you'll get a better tune from etuning with datalogs (more time to analyze them, see how it reacts over time, etc not just a one shot deal), and you own the cable so you can always reflash back to stock and sell it used later on, use it on a different vehicle, as well as reflash updates later on without having to make an appointment and go back to the shop (more $$$). When you get tuned there all you have is the license flashed onto the ecu and no way to remove it later on... bye bye $600

@Dean thanks for the support!

Does the car need to be reverted back to stock before the cable and license can be sold? Or could I get it tuned to the point where I am satisfied and then sell cable/license?

[seymore4]

You have to reflash back to stock before you can sell it (the license is transferred onto the ecu the first time you flash it)

[atlM35]

I prefer a street tune... granted not legal when doing pulls up to 100mph, but more accurate.

[cruzad3r]

I prefer a street tune... granted not legal when doing pulls up to 100mph, but more accurate.

lol i think you just need a reason for you to drive at 100mph lol

seymore4, we'll be in touch.

[atlM35]

I prefer a street tune... granted not legal when doing pulls up to 100mph, but more accurate.

lol i think you just need a reason for you to drive at 100mph lol

seymore4, we'll be in touch.

You're absolutely correct. I was tuning my turbo install and loved hearing the blowoff after building full boost.

[seymore4]

You're absolutely correct. I was tuning my turbo install and loved hearing the blowoff after building full boost.

Nothing beats that!

Seriously tho, you don't need to max out the speed for tuning purposes, as long as its a clean pull with minimal wheelspin

[svard75]

I had a SC car before with the roots type blowers and it had a water to air aftercooler. I tuned it to Stage III with a smaller pully, CAI and larger injectors and the thing screamed when I FTed it! I remember scaring the s*** out of a guy walking down the street lol.

[Ilya]

You're absolutely correct. I was tuning my turbo install and loved hearing the blowoff after building full boost.

Nothing beats that!

Seriously tho, you don't need to max out the speed for tuning purposes, as long as its a clean pull with minimal wheelspin

UpRev always asked me to do a couple 0-60 runs and then one cruising log. I feel like they got the tune down pretty good. How much do you charge Seymore to look at the tune file if I send you the datalogs and their tune to see if you can do better?

[seymore4]

Yup, 0-60 are good as well, just need clean runs. We're mainly looking at rpm/engine load/AFR etc.

I'll PM you my email. send em over and I'll take a look no charge

[svard75]

Tune is complete. He started by unlocking the ecu and flashing it. Then we drove for 2 hrs performing many hard pulls. The first few pulls he just monitored the engine. He noticed lots of knock (2000+). He retarded the ignition to see if that would correct it but the knock was present even at lower rpms. I drive in the city mostly so lots of idling and stop and go. My engine is burning oil slightly and this knock was caused by excessive oil buildup in the combustion chamber. He set the ignition timing back to 0 and we hopped on the highway. 4 pulls from 80-150 for monitoring and as we got further along with the pulls the knock was happening less and less. Eventually it completely disappeared. He said that hard pulls every now and again are good for the engine and this was a perfect example. Anyway once the knock was sorted we began changing the ignition timing. Each time it was a different feeling. None of the pulls were really that strong and based on his feedback it's the AWD and weight of the car. The vq35 really shine in the lighter chassis z and g coupe. After the hard pulls and timing settings he flashed the ecu again for the cam timing. Several more hard pulls and he found an optimal setting. Made the changes and I did a few final pulls. It really brought out the 4000+ rpm power and just kept on pulling up to 6000rpms. I'm quite happy with the results.

A couple of things to note. Despite what other tuners tell you about playing with the transmission shifting they cannot do it via a flash. The transmission must be pulled and new valve solonoids must be replaced.

Onpointdyno.com is where it was performed.

[seymore4]

This review is just lol.

A couple of things to note. Despite what other tuners tell you about playing with the transmission shifting they cannot do it via a flash. The transmission must be pulled and new valve solonoids must be replaced.

Tell him to look inside the rom at the "Torque management" table

[svard75]

Really?! @&$#%**. Thanks man. I'm gonna give him a call.

[LouCast]

I know I am new here, but not new to Nissan and Uprev. I know that Uprev was able to finally to communicate with the TCM. They were able to bring up the line pressure in the transmission, basically it works as if you have a shift kit installed. They found it while working on Turbo Nissan Titan. Some Uprev licensed tuners know about it but not all. As Seymore said it is in the torque management.

[seymore4]

I know I am new here, but not new to Nissan and Uprev. I know that Uprev was able to finally to communicate with the TCM. They were able to bring up the line pressure in the transmission, basically it works as if you have a shift kit installed. They found it while working on Turbo Nissan Titan. Some Uprev licensed tuners know about it but not all. As Seymore said it is in the torque management.

Its been available for several years now

[svard75]

unfortunately my tuner is ignoring my email requests for that. Let me entice him with some money and see if he responds.

[seymore4]

unfortunately my tuner is ignoring my email requests for that. Let me entice him with some money and see if he responds.

Thats a horrible idea. Why would you offer more money to someone who has that level of basic customer service??

[LouCast]

Been available for 2 years now.

[svard75]

Well got it done this past weekend. What a difference. AWD car and It actually chirps in second at WOT! okay it was wet out lol but butt dyno def agrees money well spent!

[finikM35]

Which tune did you do? Dyno or street

[svard75]

Butt dyno tune (AKA street tune with dude in car watching laptop and tweaking as I rape my engine).

[finikM35]

the most accurate dyno there is!

[g35t]

You're absolutely correct. I was tuning my turbo install and loved hearing the blowoff after building full boost.

Nothing beats that!

Seriously tho, you don't need to max out the speed for tuning purposes, as long as its a clean pull with minimal wheelspin

Sorry to bump an old post. Like to get in contact with seymore4 for a remote tune. I didn't see a way to PM.