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[onosqv]

it's about damn time!

that s*** looks low... but how looowwww, can you go?

MOAR PICS!

[AZhitman]

That's almost at full-drop.

Tires are sitting on fenderwell liners (no, I'm not ripping them out, that's gay.)

More to come, working on the article and pics.

[onosqv]

O, that's it? how far does it go up?

You are one of the few ppl who still have fenderwell linings after lowering.

I was expecting some framerail on the ground loweredness, hee hee.

I guess that's pretty pimp if it goes up to stockish height.

[mmm240]

C'mon Greg you got bags, rip them liners out and lay frame!

[DeXteR]

no, I'm not ripping my fender liners out, that's gay.)

You're gay...

Just pop them off for a day and see how low you can go. Then go back to a reasonable height and put your liners back in.

Come on, we want to see you lay frame (or as close as you can without smashing your aero...).

[AZhitman]

No, "gay" is getting road funk and tire nastiness on a $6K pristine built KA-T.

Keep in mind, my engine is dropped1.5" lower in the cradle, and my skid plate is about 1" from the ground at the lowest height.

That pic is almost full-drop. Front settles down a little more if I let all the pressure off. Car won't roll at this height, tires are on fenders. Theft-proof.

[TIMELSS_vert]

dude, I understand you caring about your engine bay. But whats the point of having air ride when your ride height is the same as some people with coiled that daily their cars? I know mine is about that low. fiberglass should be on the ground when parked man!

[AZhitman]

Ummm, those people aren't running 18's and 285's in the rear.

I think I mentioned my skid plate is 1" off the ground.

400hp + no ground clearance = fail.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

What's that giant thing in the front seat?

Anyways, looks great as always!

[Nategreat923]

Your on bags, and thats as low as you go? Damn, my coils are lower then that.

[AZhitman]

Have a cookie.

Put some 18's on it. Push 400+ whp. And drop panties in the big city.

Then you can worry about my ride height.

For those who care to know WHY this was done, 2 reasons:

1) So I can get in my driveway and navigate speedbumps.

2) So I can get a jack under the car.

Not to impress anyone with non-functional kit-scraping, frame-laying altitude.

[Logan76]

I cant believe your catching this much flak, your ride height before wasnt that low and it looked good and now you have adjustability to raise it up to work on and get in and out of places, no reason to drag frame rail thats for douche bag mini-truck owners...

[AZhitman]

Eh, no biggie. I'd probably say the same thing.

What people don't realize is this isn't a traditional "bagged" suspension.

It's coilovers with rigid bags in PLACE of the coils.

So, yeah, I could drop the collars until it grinds the oil pan off, but I don't see a purpose for that. It was set up professionally, and the option of hitting a remote and raising it to 4x4 height is what I was looking for (driveway / speedbumps / jacking).

[mmm240]

How bout some more pics!

[amolao]

that height is perfect, and you get the advantage of adjustability with it. I cut my fender liners and still regret it. Gotta get new ones now after raising the car a bit.

[94_240sx]

that height is perfect, and you get the advantage of adjustability with it. I cut my fender liners and still regret it. Gotta get new ones now after raising the car a bit.

Do it like Broadfield. Use a heat gun to modify fender liner.

[S133P3R]

that thing looks sick slammed! is there any more pics?

[Eikon]

It looks amazing Greg.

Personally.. I wouldn't even want it any lower than that. I don't even have coilovers and I'm already close to losing an expensive front bumper everytime I drive around town.

I'm a huge fan of this setup... boy would it be nice to have instant adjustability!

So how much weight does it add?

Do they have a ballpark on cost to the public yet?

Looks like a winner to me!

[TIMELSS_vert]

this is like the 3rdtime ive posted this in this thread. Theres even a direct link to Ksport's site on the first page in one of my posts.

ksport list price - 3,900D2 list price - 3,700 (off of raceonusa.com)airbagit.com list price - 1,999

you can also make your own custom setup using Universal Air Suspension components which are bag over dampener design and coils that you already have. Last time I calculated the cost on that, using all new, very nice equipment it was about - 1600. but everything would be out in the open instead of in a neat little box.
Modified by TIMELSS_vert at 10:02 AM 2/23/2009

[Eikon]

this is like the 3rdtime ive posted this in this thread. Theres even a direct link to Ksport's site on the first page in one of my posts.

ksport list price - 3,900D2 list price - 3,700 (off of raceonusa.com)airbagit.com list price - 1,999

haha.. you got me. I failed to read the rest of the post. What a newb!

[S133P3R]

pardon me for my laziness, but are there pics of this system (the coilover part) anywhere on here? i cant find them thru search (maybe im dumb).

[94_240sx]

pardon me for my laziness, but are there pics of this system (the coilover part) anywhere on here? i cant find them thru search (maybe im dumb).

A member from Finland posted those pics on his vert. You have to find that thread. I was trying to find it, but no luck.

[S133P3R]

its cool, i found some pics of a cedric Y33 with S series coils running air bags, just curious..

this car 'vert looks amazing, stiil cant wait to see more pics!

[biggie]

A member from Finland posted those pics on his vert. You have to find that thread. I was trying to find it, but no luck.

You suck.

The Finland D2 setup:zerothread?id=369178

[S133P3R]

thanks for the pics biggie...hows the ride feel AZ? im really curious if its as bumpy as coilovers or like riding on, well, air bags...

[BRosa]

thanks for the pics biggie...hows the ride feel AZ? im really curious if its as bumpy as coilovers or like riding on, well, air bags...

The ride is going to be dependent on 3 things...1. the damper 2. the settings for the dampening and 3. the air pressure inside the bag.

The dampening is going to play more of a role when it comes to comfort. Overall stiffness is going to be the determined by air pressure, with the 240 at say 120psi it's going to be rock hard, down around 80psi is going to be toward the stiff end of the coilover spectrum (would compare to running say a 12K/10K spring rate, also not much lower than factory height), 40-50psi is on the soft side (and relatively low).

[S133P3R]

so softer means lower also? hmmmm... i understand the dampening effect, thanks.

[BRosa]

so softer means lower also? hmmmm... i understand the dampening effect, thanks.

Correct

[S133P3R]

but cannot go lowwer with out softening? im mexican, you think i would know how damn airbags worked...

[BRosa]

but cannot go lowwer with out softening? im mexican, you think i would know how damn airbags worked...

Hahaha nice....

You're correct, with air bags (any system) you lower the car to soften the ride. It's a double edged sword when you want the car to look nice as well as perform.

The Ksport set up still retains the adjustability of height through the lower mount. If your ideal ride is at 75psi (which would be stiff as well as high) you can bring the lower mount up on the shock body and lower the car so that 75psi is at a lower height with the same stiffness.




Modified by BRosa at 2:06 PM 2/23/2009