update

[vroombout]

just wanted to see what some of you all think so far.... the 5Zigen MK5's arent exactly what i plan to stick with but for the hellz of it i sprayed em. (kinda like it, makes em look more like some Works lol)then theres the kouki tails n Isis exhaust.

[koukidreamz]

They look way better this way but that thing is screamin for some spacers and a drop buddy

[laxands13]

yep. get some coilovers and some eagle alloy 028s haha, thats all you need

[vroombout]

trust me ...lol i know

im savin for some coilovers right now....but im also tryin to save for an SR swap and i want some FN01's 17 x 9.5 +12 (paintin them purple....no biters lol i want some originality on my s13)....those are my more immediate goals

[laxands13]

sound like some pretty good reasonable goals.. so you gotta decide, sr or looks? ha but that paint looks pretty nice still

[JustDriftMore]

not bad...except the terrible offset.

[vroombout]

thanx man, ya i actually rattle canned the wheels and the kouki tail lower trim piece myself. came out better than i hoped. cant really tell from the pix but i sprayed the lugs purple haha a lil somethin to stand out from the crowd

[vroombout]

how much offset can i lose with some spacers temporarily till i get nice wheels? what size spacers can i use, where can i find them, and how much? not used to the aftermarket wheel thing....i only previoulsy owned isuzu cars lol

[Silvia-Tom]

Looks clean with the Kouki lights.Good call on saving for coils

[vocationalzero]

trust me ...lol i know

im savin for some coilovers right now....but im also tryin to save for an SR swap and i want some FN01's 17 x 9.5 +12 (paintin them purple....no biters lol i want some originality on my s13)....those are my more immediate goals

You wanna be unique, DON'T get the FN01's

[Dattebayo]

What the hell do you need coilovers for? You don't do anything that needs coilovers...

[vroombout]

all wheels are played out...if they arent then usually they are too much.. so instead of being unique with wheel design, i want to have them in a unique color. almost everything has been done... either way my Impulse is like 100% unique and thats why im still building that aswell. so if the s13 just ends up like another s13, i still have an entire car that not too many people can come across, and ive been apart of the isuzu thing for a few years now and theres never been 1 hellaflush impulse EVER! so im gonna be that first.

[vroombout]

i dont slide often and im not very good, ive had a RWD for maybe 4 months....but i would like to learn. my friends really good actually, hes got a slammed s13 piggy with RB20 and decent power. hes been slidding for about 6 or 7 years now, before it got crazy big. i myself have been building FWD cars for a while, 3 isuzus, then i started playing with AWD with the impulse...now i would like to play with a rwd car.

also, the being slammed look appeals to me visually and i dont want to be a lil honda boy on spring and struts and look like a boat cruisin down the road goin over waves n s***.

[Dattebayo]

i dont want to be a lil honda boy on spring and struts and look like a boat cruisin down the road goin over waves n s***.

So if that's not what you want, why are you trying to be a wannabe with coils when you clearly don't need them?

Get some good KYBs or Konis and get the proper equipment for what you do rather than deal with all that noise. WTF do you have against Hondas anyway? Most of them stock would stomp your ride anyway...

[vroombout]

i have some kyb's on the car. i hate the way it rides right now.my impulse has a spring rate of 450f and 450r on RTR coils. i at least want to be near that in the 240. and why dont i need them?as for the honda remarkpersonally i just hate their drivers most of the time, new TL, TSX, and accords arent bad and are quick....just wouldnt own onei just dont want my car to be slammed and as bouncy as a minivanand i cant think of any honda around the same model years as an s13 except maybe a crx that would be close stock to stock.now there are many 14 second - even 11 second ones on the streets where i live. but its still a honda

now my impulse from 91' was rated at 160hp and weighs in at 2500 AWD pounds....

[nevertheless]

Very clean, Post an update when this thing is low.

[J14cm7]

So if that's not what you want, why are you trying to be a wannabe with coils when you clearly don't need them?

Get some good KYBs or Konis and get the proper equipment for what you do rather than deal with all that noise. WTF do you have against Hondas anyway? Most of them stock would stomp your ride anyway...

Sorry you have to excuse Dattebayo. He likes to sound like he knows what the hell hes talking about but once you get down to actual facts you find out hes just ignorant. Out of his 23000 posts i bet only 3 of them are actually useful. Everyone knows that every honda around that time period is slow as f***.

Nice looking car man and do what you want with it. Im trying to figure out what to do with my ride height myself. 3.5 inches of wheel gap just isnt as cool as it used to be. Remember the sr is alot lighter than your KA so when you do the swap your front end sits alot higher so probly best to figure something out AFTER your swap.

[Lev_96_240sx]

how much offset can i lose with some spacers temporarily till i get nice wheels? what size spacers can i use, where can i find them, and how much? not used to the aftermarket wheel thing....i only previoulsy owned isuzu cars lol

You can't really run too much of a spacer without extended wheel studs, or by getting 25mm bolt on spacers. I have H&R's on my car and they cost about $120 a pair and that includes the extended studs. I have 10mm in the back 15mm up front. Basically you can put a 5mm spacer without extending the studs but that won't give you your effect. Machine shops charge a good bit of money to put the spacers in so if you get anything below 25mm you can count on probably another $150 to put the new studs in plus you have to take the hubs off for them to do it. In other words, save your money until you get some better wheels, it's not worth the hassle if you're just going to replace them soon anyway.

Also, if you decided to keep those wheels and lower the car still you may want to consider a tire with a bit more sidewall that way it fills the fender a bit better. Those wheels lowered will look tiny.

[vroombout]

thank you guys for the info, really does help.about how much lighter is an SR ? i knew as a tall block it would be lighter since your loosing the .4L displacement. but i thought with turbo/exhaust housing and such it would be close to the KA. i do plan on doing the swap first though for that reason now of weight change, and for the reason that idk how long my KA will last as is. its valve seals leak (not huge deal), has slightly over heater before, and was put in by someone else. so idk too much about my engine in my own car and i hate that.

as for the spacer info, thank you. i will probably slam it on these wheels but forget spacing them and just save for ones with a better offset.

[Lev_96_240sx]

KA24De weighs in at ~370lbs w/o transmission, about 520 with transmission. SR20DET weight in at 328lbs w/o transmission, about 490 with transmission.

And just for s&g: LS1 with all accessories (ac, ps, etc.) 468lbs w/o transmission, ~608 with t56

[vroombout]

are all those weights stickied somewhere on NICO?

curious as to RB20, RB25, CA18 , VQ35 , 2JZGE, 2J, 1J, VH45 and other swaps weight values as well.

[J14cm7]

KA24De weighs in at ~370lbs w/o transmission, about 520 with transmission. SR20DET weight in at 328lbs w/o transmission, about 490 with transmission.

This doesnt seem right to me. My car sits noticably higher with the sr swap. Prob about 2 inches. I find it hard to believe that there is only a 30 pound diff. Also the sr transmission weighs more than a KA trans? Can you provide links to this info?
Modified by J14cm7 at 12:34 AM 2/22/2010

[Lev_96_240sx]

http://www.drifting.com/forums....html

"Without transmisison (figure +100-150lbs)A12 87 kg 192 lbsA14 93 kg 205 lbsL18 118 kg 260 lbsCA18ET 118 kg 260 lbsQR25DE 121 kg 267 lbsCA18DET 128 kg 282 lbsSR20DE 139 kg 306 lbsSR20DET 149 kg 328 lbsFJ20ET 166 kg 366 lbs (205 hp)KA24DE 167 kg 368 lbs (est)

With Transmission:SR20DET 490 lbsRB25DET 667 lbs (280 hp)VG30DET 589 lbsFord Small Block V-8 487 lbsChevy Small Block V-8 575 lbs

-MR "

It's not only about how much the engine itself weighs, but also about how that weight is distributed. The SR sits a bit farther back than the KA, being a shorter engine.
Modified by Lev_96_240sx at 6:16 AM 2/22/2010

[Lev_96_240sx]

Yea in my earlier post I was just roughly guesstimating. They use the same transmission so the SR should be about 480 while the KA should be about 520.

[J14cm7]

Huh that seems odd to me that my front end sits so high because of 40 pounds. But facts are facts. Do you go to any of the ohio shows?

[Lev_96_240sx]

I've gone to a few. I went to HIN and to National Trails. I always plan to go to them but something or another gets in the way.

[J14cm7]

Well if you get out to one let me know i was gonna meet up with gord and see his crazy Z hes building. Cinci is only an hour and a half down the road.

SORRY FOR THE THREAD JACK.

[OM3GA]

lol nice angles

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