universal turbo charger is it worth is.

[icnuthin]

im seeing this u t c online. its a torque wind xp. is it worth it. or are these guys lying

[BadMojo]

Sorry man, it's BS. If they worked, we'd all be using them. Most likely it will just make your wallet lighter and actually restrict airflow to the engine. That thing and all of the other pieces of crap like it are useless.

[kclo4]

I presume you are talking about one of the electric superchargers? I am actually intending on making my own with a beast of a motor. I want to use something like a 100 amp 50K RPM brushless motor.

Even the "eRAM" and some of the other 1-2PSI units should give you a real 15-20HP or so.

I would like the opinion of somebody who has actually used one and had the opportunity to play with it on a dyno.

[EstoMax]

hey i really think this wouldnt give much benefit, because to spin a big electric motor takes energy, and this would put a huge load on the alternator, which the engine spins, so the horsepower you gained will probably go back to feeding the 'supercharger' you rig up..

correct me if im wrong..

max

[98s14inaz]

It is junk. Don't waste your money.

[kclo4]

You guys are going to have to come up with something better than "it's junk."

Not all designs run of the alternator. Some can run off of a separate battery that is charged separatly. And even if they draw power from the alternator, it's like anything else, the idea is to get more HP than what is lost.

Again, I want to hear from somebody who has tried it, put it on a dyno and can say that it did or did not help them. I would also like to know what design they used and how it was wired.

If I can get 30HP from a custom design and have it run a 15-20 minute lapping session at the track and have it cost less than $500 I would be stoked.

Heck, I have even though about using a .60-.90 size RC ducted fan glow engine.

[BadMojo]

You guys are going to have to come up with something better than "it's junk."

Not all designs run of the alternator. Some can run off of a separate battery that is charged separatly. And even if they draw power from the alternator, it's like anything else, the idea is to get more HP than what is lost.

There have been some lengthy discussions about products like this in the past. Do a quick search...it might have been in the KA24E/DE forum. I remember Q45Tech making a rather lengthy post...I think it was regarding the amount of power you would need from a battery (or large bank of batteries) to get any appreciable result.

[msaskin]

Here you go, dyno test of an e-ram electric supercharger on a 3000gt.

http://www.team3s.com/FAQeram.htm

If that's not proof that they're complete crap, I don't know what is.

[kclo4]

Considering what some people pay for 5HP I would not consider that "crap."

From what I have read gains on smaller displacement 4 bangers should be a bit higher also. Less airflow in means it can actually keep and hold a higher PSI through the top RPM range.

A quality mounting with a smooth intake would be a bonus also.

The eRAM seems a bit pricey for what it is, but I thing some of the DIY kits would be as effective and much cheaper. I wont be using a kit and hopefully my motor will have more ooomph than the ones they use, but it may be kind of cool.

[msaskin]

Sorry, I just find spending $200 + a bunch of time a waste for 5hp.

I'm used to two worlds: turbocharged cars, and large-displacement N/A's. I can raise my boost 1psi and gain 10-15 hp, or for $200 on an LS1 can get a set of headers and get 10-20hp out of it.

A 5hp gain just doesn't seem worth it to me.

~matt

[kclo4]

Who is to say that a good clean install on a 240 would not get more than 5HP? I would really like to hear from somebody that has put one on a 240sx. I belive they would see more power than with the 3000gt on that site.

In general there are always certain mods that cost less than other for the same power gain. In the upgrade process the cheaper ones are usually done first of course.

I guess with the custom setup I want to try I will find out if I can make more than 10HP per $100. I think it will be fun to try though.

[S13ChucKAT]

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In general there are always certain mods that cost less than other for the same power gain. In the upgrade process the cheaper ones are usually done first of course.

I guess with the custom setup I want to try I will find out if I can make more than 10HP per $100. I think it will be fun to try though.

Umm where did you pull this information out of?... your buttocks?.. in the upgrade process of a person with experience, the most expensive mods are done first.. usually being a turbo setup, or something of that nature.. THEN the cheapo mods are done..

tell you what, if you send me 100$, ill give you a fake dyno that shows you gained 10 whp.. per 100$ you send me, will add 10 hp to the dyno... that is the ONLY way you will gain 10 hp per 100$.. because if there was a way we could get 10>100$, believe you me, it would have been done by now

[kclo4]

I guess I am looking at things from a broke college student point of view.

A quality intake job can give about that ratio. 5-10HP, and if you do everything yourself it can cost around $50.

Besides that, stop being an ***, makes you look small.

[scotty-2-forty]

Aw hell, do what you want. Don't expect much oomph from it though. Here's some unsolicited advice though: concentrate on college and the significant other instead of the car.

On a lighter side, as a college student years ago, I drove a bone stock '83 Honda Accord. It got me from point A to point B without putting a dime into it. That in turn allowed me to cater to my girlfriend ... movies, dinner, shopping, etc. Since college I have a beefier income and so does my then girlfriend, now wife. Guess where I put "our" money now (see below)? Good things come to those who wait I always say.

[kclo4]

Haha. I do have way to many hobbies for my own good though. Most of them are scientific or technicle and all of them are expensive. I have just recently taken up cars and it is by far the most expensive though.

The girl...well... she wishes I would spend more money on her. I have an uncontrollable affinity towards expensive hobbies. Thus instead of buying her stuff I send guys like nismo freak $1300. I think he needs to start putting out or something.

Oh well, I don't go out and party or anything so I need to do something with my time and money.