umm... clutch i guess?

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ss240
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So... not even two months later... clutch drops... i think

lemme explain...

Driving along in 5th gear at around 120 KM/h (75 mp/h) and some little cavalier all spiffed up with a fartcan exhaust goes ripping by me...

Not liking to get shown up by cars I can OBVIOUSLY beat (my achillies heal) I hoofed the clutch in and went to drop down to 4th.... *SCREECH... CLUNK... BOOF* (some great batman onomatopoeia for ya)...

my clutch stays in. I coast to the offramp and make it half way up before coming to a complete stop.

I pulled my clutch pedal back up with my foot... I can get it into all gears but when I let my clutch out I don't move an inch.... unless I'm on a hill rolling down. I've tried letting the clutch pedal out in every gear ... including reverse... no luck.

I've had a few "mechanics" take a look and have gotten a range of "solutions"...

Some say my cable snapped, which my clutch pedal now seems to work fine.... Others say I need a new transmission... then some say could be the master/slave cylinder.

Anyone ever encounter this avoidable dillemma?

Now... keep in mind... I've had the good ole notorious problem with 2nd and 3rd syncros with my transmission... not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Please help me you crazy knowledgable people with workin 240's.. :pface

awaiting your reply... with a broken down car....ss240



240addiction
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did you rev the motor before down shifting that might explain the screech? nothing good can come of the "clunk" and "boof", sounds really bad if you ask me

crzycav86
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ss240 wrote:
Now... keep in mind... I've had the good ole notorious problem with 2nd and 3rd syncros with my transmission... not sure if that has anything to do with it.


What's that problem?

ss240
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crzycav86 wrote:What's that problem?


just grinds going into 2nd or 3rd if i don't hold the clutch in for 2-3s.

also.. i did not rev when downshifting.... i need a little more credit than that

240addiction
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you did or didnt. i assume you did rev it but just thought i would ask. Have you checked the clutch resivoir

Scott McLellan
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Their is no "clutch cable" on a 240sx. Try checking the hydralic lines. Sounds like one ruptured or something. Either that or your master cylinder or slave cylinder. Also check the clutch fork thingy that the slave cylinder pushes against. It doesn't sound like the clutch assembly at all. Does the shifter itself feel normal? Also, having to hold in the clutch for 2 or 3 seconds does not sound normal at all. If that really is your transmission then I wouldn't doubt that being your problem. Here is an idea that couldn't hurt anything; bleeding the clutch. It's super easy and if there was air in the lines at all it could maybe possibly cause this problem.

ss240
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Scott McLellan wrote:Their is no "clutch cable" on a 240sx. Try checking the hydralic lines. Sounds like one ruptured or something. Either that or your master cylinder or slave cylinder. Also check the clutch fork thingy that the slave cylinder pushes against. It doesn't sound like the clutch assembly or transmission at all. Does the shifter itself feel normal?


it feels normal... i'm guessing i should get myself one of those 240 factory service manuals... because i have no clue how to check any of those...

perhaps it is the worst case scenario of what you mentioned... what repair costs would I be looking at?

Scott McLellan
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A new transmission- I'm sure it depends on where you get it done. If you felt brave you could do it yourself. I have, just make sure you have a couple of extra hands and a lot of patience. I'd guess getting it done somewhere could be over a $1000 but again I don't know. The other things like hydralic lines would probly be under $50. Slave cylinder would probly also be around $50 just for the part of course with probly a core charge.

I would highly recommend getting a service manual. I have a Chilton ($17) that works just fine. To bleed the clutch all you need is some fresh brake fluid, some clear tubing that will fit on the bleeding nipple on the slave cylinder (will work for bleeding brakes too) and a glass jar. First top off the clutch fluid reservoir with fresh brake fluid. Put a open end wrench on the bleeding screw/nipple thing and slip the clear tube onto the nipple. Put some brake fluid in the jar and put the other end of the clear tube in the jar so it is submerged in the brake fluid. Have someone depress the clutch pedal slowly 3 times and then hold it down the third time. While they are holding it down loosen the screw 1/2 a turn. If fluid comes out with no bubbles then sorry, you didn't need to do this. But most likely, fluid with air bubbles every now and then will come out. If this is the case repeat this process until no bubbles are present. Oh yeah, after you loosen the screw 1/2 a turn tighten it back after a sec or two. Then have your assistant release the clutch pedal slowly and repeat if neccessary. It might take 5-10 times or more to get all the air out if there is any. Good luck.

chezina
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[quote=" ss240 [BI pulled my clutch pedal back up with my foot... I can get it into all gears but when I let my clutch out I don't move an inch.... unless I'm on a hill rolling down. I've tried letting the clutch pedal out in every gear ... including reverse... no luck.

I've had a few "mechanics" take a look and have gotten a range of "solutions"...

Some say my cable snapped, which my clutch pedal now seems to work fine.... Others say I need a new transmission... then some say could be the master/slave cylinder. [/quote]

Sounds like slave/master cylinder.Get a rebuild kit (ca 20-30$).

Never go back to the mechanics that told you your clutch cable snaped !:D


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