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I really, REALLY wish some folks could be compeltely eradicated from the gene pool.

Story number 1.
Elderly woman is clocked with a Magnum while she was defending her family store (with FRUIT!) as two twenty something low life pieces of s*** rob her! Do yourself a favor, click the link and watch the video and watch these tool bags.
Thankfully they were able to catch these degenerates and hopefully they spend all of their time in prison fearing the group shower because they were stupid enough to admit what landed them there.
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Woman, 80, fights off pair of robbers with MANGOES and a bag of apples
By Christine Show
PUBLISHED: 23:45 EST, 21 July 2012 | UPDATED: 23:45 EST, 21 July 2012
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..An 80-year-old woman fought off a pair of robbers by hurling mangoes and a bag of apples at them.
Otilia Martins pelted the fruit at Eduardo Torres-Lopez, 22, and Jesse DosSantos, 24, when they demanded cash from a clerk at the Continental Market in New Bedford, Massachusetts owned by the elderly woman's daughter Maria Nogueria and son-in-law, Manny.
The men were arrested for being armed and for related robbery charges after Ms Martins chased the men outside and Mr Nogueria identified them to police.
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Action: Otilia Martins, 80, (right) fought off a pair of robbers by pelting mangoes and a bag of apples at them

Swift: Ms Martins quickly approached the men as they demanded cash from a clerk at the Continental Market in New Bedford, Massachusetts owned by the elderly woman's daughter and son-in-law
The elderly woman was inside the market when the two suspected robbers entered and walked around.
The duo then went to the front of the store as one of the men pointed a gun at the clerk and told her to open the cash register.
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•'I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living hell': Teen faces jail time after lashing out on Twitter and naming the boys who sexually assaulted her

Surveillance video showed Ms Martins, who had been standing inside one of the market's aisles, approach the men realizing that a robbery was taking place.
The woman seemed flustered looking for a way to stop the men's actions.
Arrested: Eduardo Torres-Lopez, 22, and Jesse DosSantos, 24, were charged with numerous crimes, including robbery, having a dangerous weapon without a license and assaulting a person over the age of 50


Hit: Video showed one of the men strike Ms Martins in the head with a .38-caliber handgun after she threw fruit
She then turned to a box of mangoes and a bag of apples and began to throw them directly at Torres-Lopez and DosSantos.
Video showed Ms Martins striking one of the men behind the counter where the cash register was located with the fruit.

The suspect behind the counter came around to Ms Martins and tried to stop her.
But she continued to throw fruit toward him.
The man then whacked the woman over the head with his .38-caliber handgun.

Aftermath: Police later arrested the men after Manny Nogueria, who owns the market with his wife and daughter of Ms Martins, Maria, identified the suspects
Both men were masked with one using a T-shirt to cover his face and the other wearing sunglasses and a hat.
The 80-year-old woman began to follow the men when they left the store.
They had managed to take $500 in cash when Mr Nogueria, who had been outside the store during the ordeal, tried to stop them.
He was able to identify the men later when police found them about 15 minutes after the robbery.
Ms Martins suffered a cut to her head but should recover.
The men were charged with assault and battery on a person over the age of 60, armed robbery and robbery while masked and carrying a dangerous weapon without a license.




And this one, THIS ONE REALLLLLLLLY GETS ME FUMING.

Two boys sexually assault a girl, get off VERY lightly, and when she speaks out to let everyone know who was guilty, SHE gets held in contempt and is being prosecuted with a fine and jail time. f*** ridiculous. These two boys should be castrated. Nothing should remain secret in this case, and these kids deserve a public deballing. No Balls, and that goes for ANYONE who sexually assaults another human.

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'I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living hell': Teen faces jail for tweeting names of two boys who sexually assaulted HERBy Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 16:06 EST, 21 July 2012 | UPDATED: 07:16 EST, 23 July 2012
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..A 17-year-old sexual assault victim is facing a jail sentence for tweeting the names of her attackers in anger at their light punishment.
Savannah Dietrich named and shamed the boys on the social messaging site, writing: 'There you go, lock me up. I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell.'
The teenager told from Louisville, Kentucky told The Courier-Journal she was frustrated by what she feels is a lenient deal for her attackers.

The boys' attorneys have asked a judge to hold Miss Dietrich in contempt for violating the confidentiality of a juvenile hearing and the judge's order not to speak about it.
Miss Dietrich told the paper she was assaulted in August 2011 by two boys she knew when she passed out after drinking at a gathering. She learned months later that pictures of the assault were taken and shared with others.

'For months, I cried myself to sleep. I couldn't go out in public places,' she told the newspaper, as her father and attorneys sat nearby. 'You just sit there and wonder, who saw (the pictures), who knows?'
Miss Dietrich's attorneys want her contempt hearing open to the media, arguing she has a First Amendment right to speak about her case and to a public hearing. The boys' attorneys, however, have asked to keep the hearing closed.
The contempt charge carries a possible sentence of 180 days in jail and a $500 fine.
The boys pleaded guilty on June 26 to first-degree sexual abuse and misdemeanor voyeurism. Miss Dietrich says she was unaware of a plea agreement until just before it was announced in court.
She could not say what the proposed punishment was because of the court order, but said she feels like it was a slap on the wrist. The teens are to be sentenced next month, and the judge could reject or modify the terms of the proposed agreement.

Dietrich cried when the judge at the Jefferson District Court told her she couldn't talk about what had happened
When Judge Dee McDonald admonished everyone at the hearing not to speak about what happened in court or about the crime, Dietrich said she cried.
'They got off very easy... and they tell me to be quiet, just silencing me at the end,' she said.
Afterwards Miss Dietrich tweeted, 'They said I can't talk about it or I'll be locked up... Protect rapist is more important than getting justice for the victim in Louisville.'
David Marburger, an Ohio media law specialist, said Dietrich should have tried to get the courts to vacate the gag order rather than simply violating it.

But Gregg Leslie, interim executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said Dietrich should 'not be legally barred from talking about what happened to her. That's a wide-ranging restraint on speech.'
Ms Leslie said this sort of issue is becoming more common.
'In the past, people would complain to anyone who would listen, but they didn't have a way to publish their comments where there would be a permanent record, like on Facebook and Twitter, for people to see worldwide,' he said.
Miss Dietrich said she just needed to stand up for herself. 'I'm at the point that if I have to go to jail for my rights, I will do it.'

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This is seriously our world? Now we protect the kids names guilty of sexual assult while threatening jail time to the victim for speaking out (wonder who these kids parents are to get such strings pulled?!) and have scumbags who hit elderly women while trying to knock off her livelihood?!?!? I'm going by that store to give that woman a high five (it isn't far from where I work) and to have a glass of port with her because shes amazing.


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For the latter case, she knew the rules. If she didn't like the deal, she should have never agreed to it. We don't get to know the details of the boys' sentence as part of that. SO we will never know if she is just being stupid or what.

SO far I can say she hasn't shown very much intelligence in her choices, tho...

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Dattebayo wrote:For the latter case, she knew the rules. If she didn't like the deal, she should have never agreed to it. We don't get to know the details of the boys' sentence as part of that. SO we will never know if she is just being stupid or what.

SO far I can say she hasn't shown very much intelligence in her choices, tho...
Do victims get to yay or nay a plea bargain? (As far as I know they don't get any input on the decision)

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No. Victims do not yay or nay a plea bargain for criminal cases... they can complain about them though.

The only thing that she can do in her power is to file a civil suit.

I agree with what she did. f*** em. Raise hell. SCORCHED EARTH bishez!!

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When juveniles do adult crime they should no longer enjoy the juvenile rules. Here's hoping those boys ***holes are being put to good use by hardened cons who share their enthusiasm for forced sex.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:No. Victims do not yay or nay a plea bargain for criminal cases... they can complain about them though.
Is that really true in every case? I mean, she had her own lawyer, right? They had to agree to the bargain to begin with, right?

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themadscientist wrote:When juveniles do adult crime they should no longer enjoy the juvenile rules.
Here's hoping those boys ***holes are being put to good use by hardened cons who share their enthusiasm for forced sex.
Thank you for so eloquently stating what I could not. :bigthumb:

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Here's another one to add Ray.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/crime ... ab53b.html

I feel so goddamn sorry for that woman. She'll never feel safe again. I'd love to have 5 minutes alone with the ***holes repsonsible. Hell, all three in the same room, works for me.

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Ah, I think I understand now. The two boys' names are being held back legally because they weren't tried as adults, I believe... I think I would risk contempt if that were the case also, if victims truly don't have a say in the final bargain.

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Mr1der wrote:Here's another one to add Ray.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/crime ... ab53b.html

I feel so goddamn sorry for that woman. She'll never feel safe again. I'd love to have 5 minutes alone with the ***holes repsonsible. Hell, all three in the same room, works for me.
MAN, that is FUBAR'D. To hell with all of them at the same time, it'd be better to get them to cower as you pluck them off one by one in a similar horrific manner.

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As someone who was falsely accused of a sex crime, I take a much more skeptical look at these things. First thing I want to point out, little miss victim, 17 years old, was black out drunk at a party when this happened. She is in part responsible for what happened. Do I think that makes what the boys did right? Not at all. However, I can understand that may be the reason they got off easy so to speak. Does anyone really think a female judge would have just let them off with a warning without something else going on? Again, what they did was not right, but I agree with the judge.

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I'd be inclined to agree with you but whether she was out cold or not, these boys decided to implicate themselves with photographic evidence and then distributed said photographs. Probably in a similar manner that helped prove that you were falsely accused. But I'm not arguing about your case, I'm glad you were able to get it straightened out. Back to this story- it sounds like a child pornography charge and then some to me. The label and their guilty conviction may ruin their lives, but IMHO, they ruined their lives the moment they decided to be toolbags and commit to their act, and then again when they distributed their feat and bragged about it. They deserve their balls chopped off.

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I'm going to respond to each one seperately.

The first article:

All I have to say is hell yea! That is what those to f*** bags get. Put them in jail as long as you legally can. They obviously aren't doing anything good for society so just lock them up.

The second article:

OMG IMHO she was the victim so shouldn't she have the right to say what ever the hell she wants?? If I was here I would raise hell I would let everyone and their sister know that those 2 boys abused her. Also since when is there a "rule" that allows a case as well as its details to not be discussed after a trial?? I have never heard of that?

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I'm going to respond to each one seperately.

The first article:

All I have to say is hell yea! That is what those to f*** bags get. Put them in jail as long as you legally can. They obviously aren't doing anything good for society so just lock them up.

The second article:

OMG IMHO she was the victim so shouldn't she have the right to say what ever the hell she wants?? If I was here I would raise hell I would let everyone and their sister know that those 2 boys abused her. Also since when is there a "rule" that allows a case as well as its details to not be discussed after a trial?? I have never heard of that?

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frapjap wrote:Probably in a similar manner that helped prove that you were falsely accused. But I'm not arguing about your case, I'm glad you were able to get it straightened out.
It wasn't and I wasn't. I had to deal with the lies and false accusation for the rest of my life there, until I moved. I HAD to take a plea bargain as the public defender was not willing to go to trial on a my word vs hers case. Nothing I said ever mattered.

Upon looking into this further, I don't see the 'plea bargain' anywhere. They were arrested for First Degree Sexual Assault, which is a Class D felony. They plead guilty to it. The only thing that could be considered a bargain is that it was done in juvenile court, and the gag order is pursuant to those conditions. From what i have read, the boys have not even been sentenced yet.


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