Two Newbie Questions

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
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First, does the Around-View Monitor have a view of the driver SIDE of the vehicle. I can get the passenger side with the side view, but not the driver side?

Second, is there a way to get the NAV to show arrival time rather than time remaining to destination? Saw this question was asked earlier, but I'm really surprised that a NAV that's so advanced would leave off this basic setting.

Thanks!


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I haven't seen any mention of a driver side view, and haven't seen any options for changing while playing around with mine. I just use the "Bird's Eye" view if I'm parking close to something on that side.

As for the nav.. not sure about that one.. I haven't messed with it much. Just enough to know that it doesn't sort places by distance first...

Brian

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Does anyone else agree that sorting a destination address by alphabet is the dumbest idea they've ever heard of? Do I really need to scroll first through the same street names in Mass and CT, etc before I end up in the N's for NY or NJ? And if your looking for Main St in your town forget it unless you live in alabama, as scrolling down through 1000's main streets will take forever. Unless theres something I don't know about, this is poorly designed. Distance order is obviously the correct way to sort a destination address. Am I doing something wrong here? Other than that and sometimes losing the direction while navigating strip malls and jug handles, the GPS is pretty good.

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No doubt Nissan/Infiniti has a few quirks to work on with the Nav system, but all in all, it is a sweet system and it works very well.

The system is really nice if you do the "Nav Bypass" so you have the full menu even while driving.

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How do you do a "nav bypass"?

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I just got my ex35 two days ago so I am suffering from technology overload after trading in a ten year old QX4. However, I somehow managed to get both sides to work. I think I flipped the mirror adjustment button from left to right then tapped the SIDE button again to switch the viewing sides. You will see the mirror drop down on the side you are viewing so you see your wheels.

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cromagno wrote:I just got my ex35 two days ago so I am suffering from technology overload after trading in a ten year old QX4. However, I somehow managed to get both sides to work. I think I flipped the mirror adjustment button from left to right then tapped the SIDE button again to switch the viewing sides. You will see the mirror drop down on the side you are viewing so you see your wheels.
Thanks, but I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. When you hit side on the aroundview monitor, you can see a dedicated screen to the passenger side of the vehicle. I was wondering if you could switch to see such a screen of the drivers side. I know the drivers side is viewable as part of the overview of the entire vehicle.

On the GPS issue raised by others...I'm a tech guy and love the EX Nav system. Overall its the best I've seen. I especially like that you can get elevations that constantly update in the "where am I view." Not sire what problems others are having with the distance sort issue...I never experienced that in the way I set a destination. Are we talking POI's here? The only feature I see lacking is an arrival time rather than time remaining, but I'm getting used to the latter, and if someone knows how to get the former, please chime in. Also, please do share on how to set that "Nav Bypass"

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Check the "stuck" threads at the beginning of this forum.. it's called "2008 / 2009 Infiniti EX35 Emergency Brake & Vehicle Speed Sensor Override."

For those that have done this.. any issues with the warranty by doing this mod? If it's done correctly and you have electrical issues of some sort later down the road, would they not cover it if they saw the mod?

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wxman wrote:
On the GPS issue raised by others...I'm a tech guy and love the EX Nav system. Overall its the best I've seen. I especially like that you can get elevations that constantly update in the "where am I view." Not sire what problems others are having with the distance sort issue...I never experienced that in the way I set a destination. Are we talking POI's here? The only feature I see lacking is an arrival time rather than time remaining, but I'm getting used to the latter, and if someone knows how to get the former, please chime in. Also, please do share on how to set that "Nav Bypass"


WHen you enter a destination address by number and street, it will then list all of those same street names in your region(multiple states) in alphabetical order instead of closest distance order , especially if its a common street name. It does this as well with POI destinations. Is there any way to enter in the city and state as when when typing in the address, or just the street name and house number? This would make it easier. If not, then its a silly glitch in the software.

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jonkarn wrote:Wh

WHen you enter a destination address by number and street, it will then list all of those same street names in your region(multiple states) in alphabetical order instead of closest distance order , especially if its a common street name. It does this as well with POI destinations. Is there any way to enter in the city and state as when when typing in the address, or just the street name and house number? This would make it easier. If not, then its a silly glitch in the software.
No offense by this, but why would you program the Nav by street BEFORE you input the state and town? What would be the advantage to that approach? My wife's car has that method by default, and it's so preposterous that we override it every time.

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I think the major concern with the Navi safty override with the 2010 EX is when you have removed the VSS feed into the navi.once that is removed, and you are using the GPS, it won't know how fast you are going. which cause a delay in providing you turn directions.for example it might not remind you to make the right turn, until you have pass the right turn already.the best solution is to have an on/off switch for the VSS, that way when you need to access the GPS function, you can put it into the ON position, and when need to access other media functions put it into OFF position.

if you want to keep your warranty, the best way is not to cut any original wiring. when down the road if you ever need to service it, just connect back to the way it was originally, before take it to a dealership.

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Not sure what you mean by asking why I would enter in the street address before the city/state. The only option I get when entering a new destination address is to start by entering the house number first, then the street name, then it gives me the list of all the same named streets, in alphabetical order by city/state. I don't see options for entering in city and state first. I usually begin by hitting destination, then address. Is there another way? What am I missing here?

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jonkarn wrote:Not sure what you mean by asking why I would enter in the street address before the city/state. The only option I get when entering a new destination address is to start by entering the house number first, then the street name, then it gives me the list of all the same named streets, in alphabetical order by city/state. I don't see options for entering in city and state first. I usually begin by hitting destination, then address. Is there another way? What am I missing here?
After you hit "destination" select "address". Then, instead of typing in the street name hit "City" and then go from there, problem solved!

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Also, when you use voice recognition to enter an address, it asks for state & city first. What I think is dumb though is that it doesn't just default to the current city that you're in. 99% of the time, the destination address is in the same city that I'm already in. My Garmin standalone GPS has the same problem though, requiring the city to always be entered.

One thing that the Infiniti nav does much worse than the Garmin is when I'm looking at nearby parking lots (under Points of Interest). The Garmin continuously updates the list as you drive around, showing what's now the closest one. In the Infiniti nav though, the list doesn't update as you move around, and the map is oriented with North always up, instead of the direction you're going being up, so it's hard to use.

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wxman wrote:First, does the Around-View Monitor have a view of the driver SIDE of the vehicle. I can get the passenger side with the side view, but not the driver side?
There's no way to see the driver side in the AVM (except in the overhead view). Also, when you're in Reverse, you can see the rear view in the big screen but not the front view; likewise, when not in Reverse you can see the front view but not the rear. My guess is that Infiniti did this to make the user interface easier; hitting the button to cycle through the views might be a pain if it went through all 4 instead of the 2 more important ones. They probably figured that on the driver side, you can just look out the window (but still, it'd be nice if they had a button you could press on the screen to see any view).

I have a 2008 though; cromagno's comment makes me wonder if the 2010 might have more features here (or maybe he's just confused).

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sg77 wrote:There's no way to see the driver side in the AVM (except in the overhead view). Also, when you're in Reverse, you can see the rear view in the big screen but not the front view; likewise, when not in Reverse you can see the front view but not the rear. My guess is that Infiniti did this to make the user interface easier; hitting the button to cycle through the views might be a pain if it went through all 4 instead of the 2 more important ones. They probably figured that on the driver side, you can just look out the window (but still, it'd be nice if they had a button you could press on the screen to see any view).

I have a 2008 though; cromagno's comment makes me wonder if the 2010 might have more features here (or maybe he's just confused).
I don't know of any Nav that defaults to the city you're in...in my world that would be the wrong guess 99% of the time. I suppose it depends if you live in a city and do most of your driving there or if you live in the burbs, and would virtually never need directions in town. At this point, having had Nav in cars now since they came out, along with a number of portable units for my second car, I believe the Infiniti system is the best I've seen. In this day and age, intelligent routing is what I think is the big differentiator...in that regard I've never seen a portable unit that comes close. Not only is the Infiniti's routing spot on, the system "learns" when its wrong based on your driving habits, and will pick the road you actually use in future routes. North up can be adjusted in the plan view map (not in birdview where it wouldn't make sense). After playing around with the 2010, it IS missing arrival time, but I'm getting used to time remaining...just surprised they left out arrival time in such a feature rich unit. And yes, Cromagno is confused, cant get driver side view in the AVM. (Clarification: you can see the drivers side in the top view, just not a dedicated screen, which I now understand was intended to help see the curb for parallel parking.)
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Ye[QUOTE=sg77]One thing that the Infiniti nav does much worse than the Garmin is when I'm looking at nearby parking lots (under Points of Interest). The Garmin continuously updates the list as you drive around, showing what's now the closest one. In the Infiniti nav though, the list doesn't update as you move around, and the map is oriented with North always up, instead of the direction you're going being up, so it's hard to use.[/Q

Thanks for the tip I will look into hitting the city button next time. As far as the north always up problem goes, you can change that option to face the direction you are travelling. Check out the Nav options and you can switch it.

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One more small tidbit, searching by street first should be used if you can't find the street after inputting the city: the reason is that sometimes a perceived street or mailing address is different from the "true" address. For example, a street that is thought to be in Princeton, NJ, and may even have a Princeton mailing address, may actually be in a neighboring town, and the street you're looking for is only listed in the neighboring town on the GPS. In sum, the reason why the initial default is street address is to eliminate this issue, but its an unnecessary pain most of the time.

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I too, wished that the Drivers-side Camera was a view.

As long as I'm under the Speed Limit, I should be able to select whatever Camera I want. I think Infiniti dropped the ball on this one.

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EXceptional wrote:I too, wished that the Drivers-side Camera was a view.

As long as I'm under the Speed Limit, I should be able to select whatever Camera I want. I think Infiniti dropped the ball on this one.
Yeah, but that's just for the novelty, the view that would be provided is the one just glancing out the drivers window, unlike the other views where no matter how hard you look you cant see whats at ground level.

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wxman wrote:One more small tidbit, searching by street first should be used if you can't find the street after inputting the city: the reason is that sometimes a perceived street or mailing address is different from the "true" address. For example, a street that is thought to be in Princeton, NJ, and may even have a Princeton mailing address, may actually be in a neighboring town, and the street you're looking for is only listed in the neighboring town on the GPS. In sum, the reason why the initial default is street address is to eliminate this issue, but its an unnecessary pain most of the time.
I think ideally when you enter a city, the GPS would also look in neighboring cities. It seems pretty obvious to me. I'm guessing that other GPSs besides Infiniti's have a similar problem.

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wxman wrote:Yeah, but that's just for the novelty, the view that would be provided is the one just glancing out the drivers window, unlike the other views where no matter how hard you look you cant see whats at ground level.
Novelty?

Driving into a tight Garage... or parking next to a Curb on a One-way Street. I'd like to see both sides, down low.

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EXceptional wrote:
Novelty?

Driving into a tight Garage... or parking next to a Curb on a One-way Street. I'd like to see both sides, down low.
I agree, that's why I asked the question. In retrospect, though, you CAN see the driver side, just not in a dedicated screen. I'm not sure how much a dedicated driver side screen would help, but it certainly couldn't hurt...except perhaps in causing confusion or one more screen to cycle through. Again, I'm certain Infiniti didn't miss the issue, but probably used least common denominator logic.

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jonkarn wrote:As far as the north always up problem goes, you can change that option to face the direction you are travelling. Check out the Nav options and you can switch it.
I have that option set already to show Heading Up instead of North Up. But that doesn't affect the map shown when you're looking at a list of Points of Interest. What I'd like is to have it show a little icon for parking lots on the main map. I guess I could manually enter the addresses in my address book and assign icons to them.


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