Twin turbo your SR redtop?

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has anyone herd of a twin turbo manifold for the redtop? i guess you can get one or have one made. jus wondering what ya guys think on the matter? i think it can be done? maybe, maybe not.


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I think JGS was making a twin sequential turbo setup for an SR, but I am not sure. It is completely not worth it for the time and effort that will be put in, as well as the end result. If you just wan't uniqueness then go for it, but for performance it makes no sense.

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Twin Turbo SR

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not worth it at all!

it is a 2.0 so no it is not big enough to be good!

i've seen a few on the web http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/pics/215.jpg

but youll need lot of money!

good luck bud!

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Things that will happen if you TT an SR:

You'll have 2 turbos on 1 manifold. You'll have twice as many things to break. You'll be generating twice as much heat in your engine bay. The two turbo's will rob power from eachother You will lose the respect of anyone else who knows half a spit about turbo's.

If you want two turbos there are dozens of ways to go at it that will yeild better results than doing it to an SR.

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I think that over 50% of the posts here regarding such things are generated out of boredom.

Twincharging makes no sense at all for a 2.0 and below. I don't care if it's using a supercharger on the low end and then the turbo kicks in on the mid to high end. Total waste of money. If you want an extra kick, build up your engine, get a GT30 and above and NAWZ away (all in pun).

The ONLY reason anybody has done this is to say they did it. In Japan where the market is flat on its a$$, anybody will do anything to make a 100 yen, and I'm talking about the Bee-R twincharger. A total waste.

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Alfador wrote:Things that will happen if you TT an SR:

You'll have 2 turbos on 1 manifold. You'll have twice as many things to break. You'll be generating twice as much heat in your engine bay. The two turbo's will rob power from eachother You will lose the respect of anyone else who knows half a spit about turbo's.

If you want two turbos there are dozens of ways to go at it that will yeild better results than doing it to an SR.
casue its true give me 10 grand please if your plans are to twin charge a 2.0 just give the money to me I'll make use of it.

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Yeah man one big turbo is better than two little turbos that do nothing but wreak havoc upon your engine. stay with one it's cheaper and more fun.

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WTF why would you twin turbo? Makes no sense, everyone knows 3 turbos is where its at? Put the last one in the trunk.

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crakin wrote:Yeah man one big turbo is better than two little turbos that do nothing but wreak havoc upon your engine. stay with one it's cheaper and more fun.
eh, depends on the situation.

but, in this situation... couldn't be more true.

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This stuff has been covered before.

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i am a twin....not a turbo though.

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If you can pick up a set of GTR twin turbos cheap and know how to fab up a manifold it might make a fun project. As was said exhaustively by the nay-say wankers, its not really the pinnacle of performance theory, but then again we are all modifying 4 cylinder economy cars...

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essaaaarrr twentie? whats thats?

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Buy a SKYLINE!

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akalex wrote:not worth it at all!

it is a 2.0 so no it is not big enough to be good!

i've seen a few on the web http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/pics/215.jpg

but youll need lot of money!

good luck bud!
well the only thing i have to say is that fd's (93-95 us yrs) are only a 1.3 liter, and they have no problem spooling twins... man i wish i wouldve never sold my fd

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FDs are rotary and use a sequential turbo setup, as opposed as to a twin turbo.

Using two turbos on a SR20 just isn't worth the effort to 99% of people...

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Also, a lot of rotary tuners eventually swap over to a single turbo.

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ok sequential means to follow in line, well... to be able to boost sequentially, you have to have 2 turbos (even if they are in the same housing) which means that they are twin turbo, and that a little ol' 1.3 is pushing them. even though the first turbo hits @ 3200, and the second turbo hits @ 4800, it is still spooled, just not boosting.... so what i was getting at is that even though the sr is only a 2.0, it still could make enough power to spool twins, as similar to the case of a fd. the reason why many fd owners go single, as i did, is for even with the stock twins it is for reliability issues (fewer vacuum lines to dryrot, and less heat from the turbos not just sitting there spinning).

and also for the record i am opposed to twins on a sr, just as i think the bee*r supercharged and turbo'ed s15, and also the meguiar's integra from the late 90's are both retarded. might be good for shock value, but lame for functionality. the money spent on twin setup could be better spent on maybe a down payment on a r33 (or at least thats what i would do)

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ahem http://www.ksp-eng.co.jp/ATTAIN/menu3/index.htmlYes twin does double your troubles but it can be done sucessfully. Three 9 second cars from just one shop say STFU. These are trailer queen full race machines, completely impractical for DD use though. For all but the most rediculous car twin is not really the best way to go unless like was said above you are going for holy **** factor. That is the only reason I am going with twins on the FJ, a big single would do what I want but not get the testicle recession from others I would like.

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themadscientist wrote:ahem http://www.ksp-eng.co.jp/ATTAIN/menu3/index.htmlYes twin does double your troubles but it can be done sucessfully. Three 9 second cars from just one shop say STFU. These are trailer queen full race machines, completely impractical for DD use though. For all but the most rediculous car twin is not really the best way to go unless like was said above you are going for holy **** factor. That is the only reason I am going with twins on the FJ, a big single would do what I want but not get the testicle recession from others I would like.
Whatever, bro. We're talking about a daily driver. I've seen the twins in Sendai, and it's not a big deal. The fact is, a nitrous system and nitrous costs a buttload of yen in Japan, so to develop a twincharging set up may seem like an economical way to go, if you are a Japanese tuner. The HKS Twincharger set up from way back in the day of the AW11 was pretty sweet, but fell out of fashion. A bigger turbo, well built engine and a shot of nitrous could get you cooking, and that's what the majority did outside of Japan. It was discontinued in Japan in the early 90's.

As for the three 9 sec runners and their hearty STFU, back at you. I've seen it, understand it and still think it's a big waste of time. This is from a guy who is from there, grew up in the scene there, raced there and I see it for what it is- another gimmick.

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Hey kid...if you wanna sound like you know anything about a forced induction setup just stick to this idea....one turbo per bank of cylinders....not a golden rule but a pretty decent start...4 banger...1 turbo...inline 6...one turbo...V6/8...2 turbos...rinse wash repeat

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Been there, seen that, still here, still seeing that. The twincharger thing was stupid. I had a freind with that nightmare in his ku-ni and it was nothing but a headache. I enjoy watching the Japanese guys play with nitrous and brag about 50-100hp i thought about it but after I priced the refills greatgooglymoogly no ****in way! I think if you read all of what I wrote you will see I agree that it's impractical for a daily driver. 95% of the people who would want to try this would not do it right and have no end of trouble and the other 5% have more money and time than is good for them. I wouldn't entertain the idea if I did'nt get a smokin deal on the manifold and turbines. When the first turbine fails I will have to really evaluate if I want to stay twin, two turbines cost fat bank.

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I read what you wrote, and what you are saying now is that if it wasn't for some sweet deal, you wouldn't even think of it. Someone is getting rid of it for probably a good reason, and if your ECU and peripheral tuning items aren't matched, you too, will suffer and learn to hate it, so why even do it? Dyno time in J-land is not cheap, and Super Autobacs is not the place to do this kind of tuning. 95% of the people talk about it but can't afford it and 5% actually do it because they have excess income and time to burn, as you said. Which one are you? If you are some gaijin with fat wad to waste at some rip-off J tuner shop, have at it. No need to justify it with us in the cheap seats. Just do it and learn.

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You really have no idea who I am do you? Quite entertaining I don't like "Gaijin"by the way, it's typical racist BS that japanese people do with a smile like it's ok. Even after 13 years it's still unacceptable.

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s14_240sx wrote:WTF why would you twin turbo? Makes no sense, everyone knows 3 turbos is where its at? Put the last one in the trunk.
Exactly my friend. Eventually everyone will catch on to turboing their subwoofers!

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the fd's are sequential and it works but they are much more effective run non sequentially or w/ a single turbo upgrade.
DevilMB3017 wrote:FDs are rotary and use a sequential turbo setup, as opposed as to a twin turbo.
there are 2 turbos though they are just run sequentially. a twin turbo set up can be a sequential setup, but if u hear someone talking about a sequential setup then it HAS to be twin turbo.
Loki wrote:Exactly my friend. Eventually everyone will catch on to turboing their subwoofers!
shoot man, why turbo ur sub in the trunk, go quad turbo and put one on each wheel. they will make ur tires spin mad fast yo and the compressor wheel can look like spinners and thats mad baller points

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I bet if I ran without a filter and aimed a strobelight at my compressor I would score mad stylepointz.

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wow all the posts in jus a short time. but thnks for the feedback i herd about and was wondering if it was possible so i guess so. i like to drift and one turbo is more than enough. but thnks for the info on it.


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