turbos in california!!!!!!!

[cornuts]

i know ok i know turbo on any thing is illegal in california (BUT) what if i register it in a different state that dont do smog checks has any one done that? another thing lets just say i did any way the sr swap and i put everything stock from the sr like the small side mout intercooler and like a heat sheild to cover the turbo would it be just as fast i dont think the intercooler makes that much of a diff dose it? "THERE HAS TO BE A WAY'

[n240sxfnatic]

Turbos are not illegal in CA. Also you must register the car in the state you live in.

[S13k]

^^yea there not, turbos can pass smog too if you do it right, i would know cuz i live in ca and i have turbo that passes smog with flying colors

[dc1984]

i think one of the only ways to get away with having ur car registered in another state, like arizona, would be to be in the military. and youd probably need a drivers liscense from that state too.

[cornuts]

dude s13k so you have a boosting 240 in california please tell me what parts you used not trying to copy u or anything but i just want a 240 and i also want it turbo so if you can help a fellow nismo fanatic i would thank you very much bro

[cornuts]

i know a turbo car is not illegal i was talking about aftermarket turbo systems like the GREDDY KIT (well thats what ive been told) also evo sti audi A4 all have factory turbo's

[cornuts]

MY OLD 89 240SX HADREDTOPGT28GREDDY BOVHKS INTAKEMEGAN DOWN PIPETEST PIPEHKS HIGH POWERNEO TUNNERLSDTEIN COILOVERS17" LENZOSSTREACHED EAGLE LSi loved it man had to sell it to move back to ca i was in miami well still am im heading back may

[Fahaka]

Turbos are not illegal in CA. Also you must register the car in the state you live in.

Not true it is perfectly legal to maintain residency in two states. Although you have to be able to explain this when you get pulled over.

My car is registered in AZ...My DL is CA. I got pulled over the other day and he asked me why I still had az plates...simple I have residence in both states. He had no reply...it is a constitutional right based on one of the amendments...Incorporation something or other. ..basically states have to respect other states laws and because I am legal in AZ there is nothing they can do. Technically he could write me a ticket for the reg...but the judge will throw it out.

[locoluna825]

turbos are fine as long as they don't got over 14 pounds(as far as i know) and it passes both the visual and smog inspection., there still street legal. The only thing illegal in stupid California is swapin your motor out for a Japanese motor. Its not Japanese motors in general, (the whole damn car was made in japan) but California has issues, i dont know about other states but California the worst.

Ive got friends that pay off the smog guys 200-300 bucks to pass the visual because they can tell that motor doesn't belong in the car. but it will sure pass smog.

They are however missing egr equipment. what you can do is get a hold of a 200 sx or any other Nissan that has the 200sx motor which is a SR motor but it does not have a turbo or the cams a real SR from Japan would have on it. Oh and also the valve cover is different.

but anyone with an SR already would be after the EGR equpiment ,charcoal canister, egr valve, bbt valve, and tack weld a pipe the header header along the back of the back of the engine to the egr valve. we did that with our chevy dually it had a smog pump on it we didnt like to much. went and bought some performance headers for it found out it didn't have the little holes on it for the smog lines for California so we just tack welded everything back on the new header just to make it look like it was on there and gutted out inside the smog pump so basically all it was was a pulley. It has never not passed smog. passes the visual part and passes the testing with no problem

[cornuts]

well i dont need a 300-400hp car so i was planing on doing the basic (S13-SR20DET redtop) swap with the only aftermarket part's are bov, intercooler and exhaust. stock boost maybe 9-10 pounds so i hope i can do somthing. i have an aunt in Phoenix AZ that i can use her address.... ill have to try it

[dc1984]

if ur gonna try and go that route, u should try to register it in arizona before u do the swap.

i just pay the 2-300 for smog and hope i dont get the hood popped. went 2 1/2 years sr powered in OC, got puuled over a few times, 1 speeding ticket and havent had any issues with them looking at my motor. but i am about to buy something else for a daily driver as my luck will soon run out.

[s13-t]

according to the dmv and police I live on a farm in eltopia washington. its county and will never have smog tests. all my mail goes there. I could have a illegal r32 skyline, register with a junked 240sx vin number and no one would know the difference. point is- find a friend in a low key area that doesnt have emission testing of any kind and change your physical address to his.

[cornuts]

ok lets say i get the car registered in AZ, what would happen if i ever get my hood popped in california can "THEY" (aka the law) tow or give me a ticket? or would that be on how f*****-up the cop is....

[Fahaka]

perfectly legal to have a sr20det powered car in AZ. Selective incorporation as provided by the 14th amendment guarantees that you are not breaking CA law by doing this. CA has to respect AZ's law. There is nothing the CA troopers can do because you are legally driving a car out of state.

[ShaunakaRichard]

Friend of mine from Oregon got pulled over in California by Highway patrol. Got his hood popped. They knew he was illegal, even took pictures, but couldn't do anything since it was an Oregon car.

[dc1984]

i think the problem would be if they can prove that u dont live in arizona. what do u think would happen if they pull you over, see that u have an illegal motor, then u say, blam, my car is registered in arizona. but then u pull out ur drivers lisense and it is a cali state lisense? if they stqrted to dig, im sure they could pull some laws out of there a** and say u broke them. plus i am pretty sure it is illegal to have 2 different valid state drivers liscenses. i also believe there is a law about updating ur adress with the dmv within 30 days of ur official change of address. a cop told me that one time when i got pulled over cause i didnt update my drivers lisence when i moved. these are mostly minor rules and what not, but if they found out ur motor was illegal, knew what it was and everything, and then they catch u breaking a couple of these minute laws that are not normaly enforced. that might help them take your car even if it is registered in another state, due to the fact that it is an illegal registration.

there is no realy definitive way to get around this problem. just dont street race and hopefully u will not get checked.

[Fahaka]

i think the problem would be if they can prove that u dont live in arizona. what do u think would happen if they pull you over, see that u have an illegal motor, then u say, blam, my car is registered in arizona. but then u pull out ur drivers lisense and it is a cali state lisense? if they stqrted to dig, im sure they could pull some laws out of there a** and say u broke them. plus i am pretty sure it is illegal to have 2 different valid state drivers liscenses. i also believe there is a law about updating ur adress with the dmv within 30 days of ur official change of address. a cop told me that one time when i got pulled over cause i didnt update my drivers lisence when i moved. these are mostly minor rules and what not, but if they found out ur motor was illegal, knew what it was and everything, and then they catch u breaking a couple of these minute laws that are not normaly enforced. that might help them take your car even if it is registered in another state, due to the fact that it is an illegal registration.

there is no realy definitive way to get around this problem. just dont street race and hopefully u will not get checked.

It is perfectly legal to maintain residence in two states. There is no law that says I cannot have a drivers license in California and maintain residence in AZ by keeping a car registered there. This is really a gray area and is a legal loophole in stupid carb certification.

The only way this would change is with some new legislation...but there would be a large number of people willing to take this to the supreme court and have it ruled unconstitutional. CARB and CAFE are two areas where the state and federal government are stepping on our rights but it is a very hot potato that no lawyer wants to touch.

[cornuts]

well this really blows man!!!! well im ganna have to just have to have alittle different 240!!.... Now the law i do know about smog is that any car older 1975 is smog free....or correct me if im wrong BECAUSE a 1970 datsun 240 dont sound bad, and since they dont do smog checks on that i could drop in the SR maybee..right!! "sorry s13"

[JSDEVILDOG29]

I am lucky because I am in the miltary so I am allowed to have a car and license from another state yet live in Ca. The only crappy thing is I have to pass smog every three years to be able to drive my car on base. But thats not too bad.

[dc1984]

http://www.fvap.gov/reference/....html

open this link and read the second bullet!!!

"You may only have one legal residence at a time"

[Fahaka]

this only applies to voting and the letter of the law is written to prevent voters from voting more than once.

Many Americans hold dual residency and vote in two different locations. Is this illegal? Yes. Can the government actually do anything to stop it? No.

[locoluna825]

well this really blows man!!!! well im ganna have to just have to have alittle different 240!!.... Now the law i do know about smog is that any car older 1975 is smog free....or correct me if im wrong BECAUSE a 1970 datsun 240 dont sound bad, and since they dont do smog checks on that i could drop in the SR maybee..right!! "sorry s13"

you sure could

[bman49]

I'm have to agree with Fahaka. You can register your vehicle in 1 state and drive it in another as long as you have homes in both states. A guy down the street from me has a GC STi which wasn't sold in the US. He can drive his car in California because he owns a house here, and he owns a lake house in Oregon where he registers it. I myself could do something similar because my mom lives in Texas, but I'm a student in high school living with my aunt and uncle in California. All my mom has to do is register the car under her name in Texas, and buy insurance there. The only reason I don't do that is because for some reason insurance for a new driver is a s*** load cheaper in California than in Texas. On a second note, turbos are very legal in California. Hell you can add anything to your engine as long as it's CARB EO. Check out there site (http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/d ... mquery.php) it shows every CARB EO they've given. Also in terms of engine swaps, they're legal too. The engine+transmission just has to be younger than car, the engine has to be sold in California at one time, and has to be from the same class i.e. truck engine into a truck, car engine into a car. I remember some guy who worked at a smog shop went onto a forum and tried to get enough support for the california government to let SR20DETs be legal because they were so similar to the SR20DE.

[HVAC25000]

Does the engine itself have to be sold, or just the car with the engine in it? I suppose it's the same since I would assume you can always buy a cars engine separate for replacement.

What engines sold in california from 98 on (or 96 in my case, or 94 in other's cases, etc), can be stuffed in a 240sx?

Is it now "more" legal to put a sentra SR20DE and put a turbo on it?

Forgive me for asking this question as well. Were there no RB engines in cars ever sold in Cali (or the U.S. for that matter)?

[iitywygms]

^^yea there not, turbos can pass smog too if you do it right, i would know cuz i live in ca and i have turbo that passes smog with flying colors

Please, oh please, tell us the after market turbo you put on that legally passes smog.I would love to get one on my car.

[HVAC25000]

Why can't an aftermarket turbo be made to run as clean as a market turbo?

Any production car that comes with a turbo in the U.S. passes smog, so what changes when it's not done at a factory?

Only saab, mitsubishi, and subaru know how to set up a turbo engine, but no private citizen does?

Or is it just specifically Nissan engines that spew crap when they have a turbo?

One last thing, there's a nissan group in san diego with upwards of 15 or so 240s, pretty much all of which have sr20dets. How are they passing smog and not having their cars impounded? They meet, and most live, ironically, in the area of San Diego that has the most cops per capita. How are these guys all driving registered cars that supposedly won't pass smog because of their turbos?

I only ask all this because I plan on doing it too.