Turbo time check list!!!

[iknowyoulike]

here is my set-up so far..-SSA manifold-JGS oil line kit -SR 370 injectors-SMIC-Turbo XS RFL-Downpipe-T25-Testpipe-PLX M-300 wideband tuner-Autometer boost gauge-Apexi S-AFC2-walbro 255-misc couplers-spare oil pan tapped for returned line

i know i still need plugs BKRE7?<--i think that's the part number..anyone confirm?

last compression test was done about a month ago..170/165/165/170 Motor is a s13 DE with approx..160xxx

My question is for my set-up i found that i'll (hopefully) be in the range of 200-220 whp @ approx 7psi..for that would i have to retard the timing...

will that cause any type of detenation if i don't retard it?...i know that most guys running this go at least to 16 degrees..i know that but if i don't have to i rather not cause i don't know how to do that part of the install (setting/adjusting timing)..so i'm wondering if theres anyone who has a simalar set-up but they didn't pull timing. how did it turn out/RUN...

If i installed everything i have and leave base tiiming at 20 would it cause the motor to go boom.!!

any other input on my set up is also welcome like what else i should get or need...

thanks for reading the long post i know theres alot of question sorry just dont' want to do it wrong..wanna play it safe.

[Mustangs_Suck]

here is my set-up so far..-SSA manifold-JGS oil line kit -SR 370 injectors-SMIC-Turbo XS RFL-Downpipe-T25-Testpipe-PLX M-300 wideband tuner-Autometer boost gauge-Apexi S-AFC2-walbro 255-misc couplers-spare oil pan tapped for returned line

i know i still need plugs BKRE7?<--i think that's the part number..anyone confirm?

last compression test was done about a month ago..170/165/165/170 Motor is a s13 DE with approx..160xxx

My question is for my set-up i found that i'll (hopefully) be in the range of 200-220 whp @ approx 7psi..for that would i have to retard the timing...

will that cause any type of detenation if i don't retard it?...i know that most guys running this go at least to 16 degrees..i know that but if i don't have to i rather not cause i don't know how to do that part of the install (setting/adjusting timing)..so i'm wondering if theres anyone who has a simalar set-up but they didn't pull timing. how did it turn out/RUN...

If i installed everything i have and leave base tiiming at 20 would it cause the motor to go boom.!!

any other input on my set up is also welcome like what else i should get or need...

thanks for reading the long post i know theres alot of question sorry just dont' want to do it wrong..wanna play it safe.

Pretty much the same set up I have - my compression was a handful lower than yours so you should make a bit more power at the same psi (I'm running 7 psi btw) I had 200rwhp/205rwtq. My compression was 140/150/140/150. As for your spark plugs I believe that's correct. As for timing - I didn't touch it. I just got it tuned with my SAFC at a dyno with a wideband tuner, and I was good to go.

The only thing I'm going to comment on your set up is this. The manifold you are using is pure garbage. Sadly, I don't think there really are any options for people using the T25 but to have that manifold. Most likely it will not line up perfectly, and if it does - you can expect it to get all nasty looking very soon, and also most likely warp pretty quickly. That's what happened to mine, and countless of other people's - SSAUTOCHROME is known for their TERRIBLE quality parts - do your utmost to stay away from, EVEN if it means spending a few hundred more on whatever it is you are looking at getting. BTW XSPOWER and SSAUTOCHROME are the same company...steer FAR FAR away from them when it comes to modding your car - you will not be happy with the product a little ways down the road I can almost 100% guarantee it, unless you're one of the very few/lucky ones and have no problems with it.

Other than that - you have a good/basic set up that will start you off well into how fun a turbo car can be - and most likely how much of a pain in the *** it can be too. Good luck with your project.

[iknowyoulike]

so mustang you just focused on a/f ratios and lefted timing at stock and it was ok?

[Mustangs_Suck]

so mustang you just focused on a/f ratios and lefted timing at stock and it was ok?

yes. when I first got the car it was at a dangerous 14:1 AFR, I got it tuned at set at a much safer 12.5:1.

[iknowyoulike]

12.5:1 constantly or only on full boost? should it be at about 11-12 while building boost or would that even matter cause the t25 spools so fast?

[iknowyoulike]

oh yeah also mustang...after the manifold warped on you did it give you any trouble? still running it today?

[Mustangs_Suck]

12.5:1 constantly or only on full boost? should it be at about 11-12 while building boost or would that even matter cause the t25 spools so fast?

I just know they set it at 12.5:1 under full boost, I'd assume it'd be around the same constantly though....I don't have a major set up. The T25 is crazy fast, starts spooling at about 1800rpm's usually full boost by 2300.

[Mustangs_Suck]

oh yeah also mustang...after the manifold warped on you did it give you any trouble? still running it today?

well my turbo just blew, and my mechanic called and said "yeah this manifold is junk" (which I knew from the beginning, but couldnt' do anything about - i bought the car like it is). He said if I decide to use the manifold again (meaning I would get yet another T25 (this is my 2nd one i've blown)) he'd re-machine it, as the airflow isn't smooth and steady anymore. I'm most likely junking the manifold, and putting both my blown T25's up for sale to just get rid of them, and then upgrading to a better manifold and getting a t3/t4 turbo.

I'm not trying to scare you or anything - but you get what you pay for - there's a reason why SSAUTOCHROME is hundred's cheaper than others - and that's simply because their quality is much much less.

[iknowyoulike]

i know that feeling all to well i got this manifold during the first group buy on zilvia when ss autochrome was unknown and trying to make a name for themselves only i'm probably the few that have the original model that havent put it on yet...but if i could do it over again i'm with you man...i'd probably get a top mount cast iron and run a t3/t4....but i guess the good thing we'd get out of something like this is the experience..

[Mustangs_Suck]

i know that feeling all to well i got this manifold during the first group buy on zilvia when ss autochrome was unknown and trying to make a name for themselves only i'm probably the few that have the original model that havent put it on yet...but if i could do it over again i'm with you man...i'd probably get a top mount cast iron and run a t3/t4....but i guess the good thing we'd get out of something like this is the experience..

very true, hopefully you at least get your time/money's worth before something goes wrong with it, or cross your fingers and hope you're one of the small handful that doesn't have problems with SSAUTO's parts.

[iknowyoulike]

thanks i'm pm you if i have questions to ask you if you don't mind?

[Mustangs_Suck]

thanks i'm pm you if i have questions to ask you if you don't mind?

sure go ahead

[mirra32]

i hear everyone saying t3 now for turbo...should i just take that route...i heard the t3 last longer because i dosen't have to spin as much.....what about spooling when is boost expected for a stock internal...i read this other post about it taking forever....post some links of headers your using......thanx....

[Mustangs_Suck]

i hear everyone saying t3 now for turbo...should i just take that route...i heard the t3 last longer because i dosen't have to spin as much.....what about spooling when is boost expected for a stock internal...i read this other post about it taking forever....post some links of headers your using......thanx....

I'd go with a T3 over a T25. Sure the T25 is full on boost at like 2500rpm's but you are very limited with power, and idk they just don't seem to be reliable at all...but I probably just have bad luck. The T3 won't be at full on boost as fast as a T25, but still definitley fast enough, and it'll be able to hold more psi and produce more power. As for my manifold - it's garbage, so I don't want to even get it in your head of possibly buying one from SSAUTOCHROME - as believe me, it's a WASTE of money and time.