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Yes, I know about the VG30DETT swaps etc. Is there any way just to bolt on one Turbo? Cause Nissan made the VG30DET also, it was in the Cedric or Leopard


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There isn't a simple "bolt on" turbo for the J30 engine.

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are you sure you cant just take the Turbo Manifold from the TT and put it on the N/A? http://www.splparts.com has some "gut" performance, aka crankshafts, cams etc

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Sure you can. Go for it.

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driverdriver wrote:There isn't a simple "bolt on" turbo for the J30 engine.


There aren't too many things "bolt on" for the J's. I wish it were more mod friendly, but I still realize that it wasn't meant for performance. We just force it to b/c we don't have anything else!!!

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the compression is too high on the J to just bolt on a turbo...in order to properly do it you would have to swap internals...not just the cams and the crank...rods, pistons, as well as different heads are just a few things that come to mind...if you had expert skill w/ all the proper tools and a lift you could get away with doing a TT swap for around $5K doing the work yourself and leaving the car down for a significant amount of time...at least a week id say...you would also still need to find someone to make you a custom driveshaft and get a new ECU and wiring harness...as far as a single turbo setup you would still need to do plumbing and a lot more fabricating...probably up your injectors...and with the compression being too high you wouldnt be able to boost more than 5PSI safely without risking detonation...ive been doing as much research on the subject as possible because eventually i AM going to do it i just want to make sure all my ducks are in a row first...

now that $5K would be just for the TT clip & wiring harness and hopefully ECU....then you have to spend $$$$ to upgrade the motor before you put it in and then more $$$$ to actually have it put in....not including how your going to run the piping for the intercoolers and turbos and what not...i know that ive missed alot but this is just the basics and not including incidentals....i looked into a shop doing it for me so i wont have to mess with it and they are asking around 8-10 grand to do it....

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kbflip02 wrote:the compression is too high on the J to just bolt on a turbo...in order to properly do it you would have to swap internals...not just the cams and the crank...rods, pistons, as well as different heads are just a few things that come to mind...if you had expert skill w/ all the proper tools and a lift you could get away with doing a TT swap for around $5K doing the work yourself and leaving the car down for a significant amount of time...at least a week id say...you would also still need to find someone to make you a custom driveshaft and get a new ECU and wiring harness...as far as a single turbo setup you would still need to do plumbing and a lot more fabricating...probably up your injectors...and with the compression being too high you wouldnt be able to boost more than 5PSI safely without risking detonation...ive been doing as much research on the subject as possible because eventually i AM going to do it i just want to make sure all my ducks are in a row first...

now that $5K would be just for the TT clip & wiring harness and hopefully ECU....then you have to spend $$$$ to upgrade the motor before you put it in and then more $$$$ to actually have it put in....not including how your going to run the piping for the intercoolers and turbos and what not...i know that ive missed alot but this is just the basics and not including incidentals....i looked into a shop doing it for me so i wont have to mess with it and they are asking around 8-10 grand to do it....
Have you read the turbo swap build-up by one of our members (can't remember his name) on here? He was over the $5k mark and did ALL of the fabricating himself. His car was down for MONTHS, not weeks and he quickly chewed up 2 trannys after getting it on the road.

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Hopefully J30TT will chime in ..Don't think he swapped engines.And that thing runs like a bat outta hades !!!

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yodawill2000 wrote:Hopefully J30TT will chime in ..Don't think he swapped engines.And that thing runs like a bat outta hades !!!
he actually sold his J30tt...i actually called to inquire about purchasing it.....yeah he went through 2 automatics before going with a 5 speed...i forgot exactly why.....also if i remember right he used RSR springs to lower it 2 inches or so...im not sure if he swapped engines or if he just swapped internals and such...either way my point was that if one wanted to pursue the swap he/she would want to make sure that its no their only means of transportation and have a fat wallet to back...

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$10 grand? That's the cost of my whole project!!!

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Buy yourself a 240SX and have at it .Much more cost effective me thinks .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...et_KW


Modified by yodawill2000 at 4:49 AM 7/2/2008

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ya, the J is not worth selling, once I get a real job, il buy a 240 and work with that.... RSR lowering springs? What are those? 5 SPEED SWAP!!!! Any write up????

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naladude911 wrote:ya, the J is not worth selling, once I get a real job, il buy a 240 and work with that.... RSR lowering springs? What are those? 5 SPEED SWAP!!!! Any write up????
search is your friend...just look for j30tt or twin turbo j30...im almost positive he did a write up but it wasnt stickied...even if it wasnt an actual step by step write up it has a wealth of information

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and to the junk yard it went....zerothread?id=313433

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That's Drapes .. not J30TT's

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yodawill2000 wrote:That's Drapes .. not J30TT's


this was j30tt'shttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/2076655

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kbflip02 wrote:

this was j30tt'shttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/2076655
Now that is a J30. Too bad that they are so rare...

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how would you put in the clutch pedal with the e brake pedal there?

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Remove the E Brake pedal.

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I think if he has to ask half of the questions he has....then he doesnt need to pick up a wrench... or drive by himself...lol

It was a sad day last Saturday....I traded the J in on an 03 Kia Sedona.They gave me $1000 for the trade-in even with the rust, bent tie rod ends, holes in the exhaust, body damage, etc.

Walked out paying $7184 w/ tax & etc. 56,000 miles on the vanClosest I'll get to drving another Infiniti for a while will be Grandma's G35 when I go visit.

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Moment of Silence...

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YOU TRADED IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT WORTH DOING!!!!!!!!! You could have parted it out and made more then $1000

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naladude911 wrote:YOU TRADED IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT WORTH DOING!!!!!!!!! You could have parted it out and made more then $1000
Do you have ANY idea how much time and effort it takes to part out a car? Some of us have MUCH better things to do than wrench on old (in his case) rusty parts and deal with shipping them.

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True, I hope the dealer does something useful with it, or else there goes the car to the squisher

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naladude911 wrote:True, I hope the dealer does something useful with it, or else there goes the car to the squisher
Dealerships don't run trade-ins that they gave $1,000 for (if they really did) to the "squisher". They will run it thru the auction and a 'buy here, pay here' type dealership will buy it, spend very little money fixing it, and sell it for $1500 down and $400 a month. They will probably repo it and then they get to sell it again for $1500 down and $400 a month. $3000 cash for a $1000 car, not bad.

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Yes, I could have made more, but the first plan with the car was to give it to a guy at my church to repair and drive. I was going to give it to him for $1, so he didnt have to pay gift tax. I ended up trading it in after they offered me $1000 to get the van to a price I could pay. If they could have given it to me for close to the $7000 out the door I needed without trading, I would have.

You dont understand the extent of the damage and repairs needed to the J. The lower panels under the rear doors had holes large enought to nearly fit a hand through. The passenger fender was crushed along with front end damage I hadnt fixed. The passenger tie rod was bent bad enough to make the wheel shake about 15-20 degrees back and forth. It was rubbing the front tire bald, so of course it needed new tires. The exhaust had holes near the manifold. The flywheel had a tooth or teeth missing, it grinded occasionally when you started it. The sunroof stopped working, the interior door panels were peeling. The transmission didnt want to shift in the rain. I could go on and on with the issues that were mounting up and costing more to fix than it's value was. It could have taken easily $3000 to repair back to like new condition, and it would still have 214,000 miles on the engine and transmission. It's going to be bad enough when I start to restore my Spyder. And it's 5 years newer and only has 86,000 miles on the body.

And like scott said, it's not easy to wrench, catalog, store, sell and ship 15 year old rusty parts. Especially when you have a full-time job, a house, and two kids and a wife to pay attention to. And not having a garage and living within city limits, it kind of restricts what you can do in your yard.

Between my Mom and I we had owned the car nearly 9 years and put over 110,000 miles on it. She originally bought it for $7000 cash, out the door. It had lived it's life. Time to retire gracefully.

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Yup, just open your hood, throw any turbo you can get your hands on in there, and shut the hood real fast. You'll be boosting in no time!

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Agree, got any picks of the rust bucket?


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