Turbo Stock Engine, or do SR20DET?

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SlyBlackDragon
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I was wondering if it was worth considering just turboing the stock s13 engine, or would it be better to do the whole front clip SR20DET conversion?


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Welcome to NICO, SlyBlackDragon.

I'll give you a little info about what I know regarding the opinions you've posted, and encourage you to use the Search button (top right hand corner) to find input from others. I'm sure you know this question and questions like it have been asked before.

Anyways, both setup shave pros and cons. The KA24(D)E is a cheap motor, a breeze to fix and yes, you already have one in your car. Unfortunately, MANY KA24(D)Es are beyond what most would consider REASONABLE use for turbo applications. It is rare to find a KA with less than 100K miles. That said, any moderately aggressive KA turbo build will require SOME internal engine work.

The SR20DET is a more expensive motor, but is turbo from the factory (obviously) and will be in better condition (usually) when you import it. The problem is the price. You'll spend upwards of $2200-$3000 getting that motor to your door, and then you need to get it in your car. Assuming everything works the first time (which usually doesn't happen) you'll be golden for a whopping 202hp at the crank.

Now, with a KA, you'll have a torquey deathmachine. With an SR, you'll have a smooth-powered deathmachine. In the end, your car will be turboed, and you'll name it and it will be your friend. Both are awesome motors, and both have great potential.

My advice is that you search out some more information about these motors, their common applications and their pros and cons. I could go on LITERALLY for hours and hours about them... advantages and disadvantages.

Again, welcome to NICO!

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of course you could always go with the "very confortable - smooth - riding - with some work could easily be a deathmachine of doom" CA18det, and it's cheaper than an SR too!

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Hehehehehehehe, yea, I'm actually liking the comparison here, not "SR20's are expensive crap" or "KA24's are a truck motor". lol. Suprisingly well thought out. CA18 was my weapon of choice, damn, that thing wa fast while it held together, lol.

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Thread will be locked soon, no matter how valid or informative the posts are.

We arent even allowed to joke about KA vs SR anymore.

I hear Nismo Freak coming... RUN!

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IWannaS15 wrote:Thread will be locked soon, no matter how valid or informative the posts are.

We arent even allowed to joke about KA vs SR anymore.

I hear Nismo Freak coming... RUN!
I am confused

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Look, the bottomline is: You have to make that decision based on the research you do.....Just make a list of facts on the engines you are considering. You know like Pro's Con's lists, specs, exspenses.....The key is research first....then make a list of things you like about the CA, SR, KA, RB......then make a list of things you don't like about each one...I personally chose the SR that doesn't mean it's gonna be good for you....Just start surfing the net and begin making an unbiased and informative list....Good Luck!!

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CA....go w/ t3h CA.. hehe jk. but really man, it'd be ill advised to do anything with anything short of 3 months research. SEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND. it all depends on your money, and your taste.

-however i think most everyone can agree that if you have all the money in the world and want the best (fastest/quickest) engine out there for the 240, the RB26DETT is probobly the best choice, but good luck getting it for less than 5-6k's.

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masticatingcow wrote: I could go on LITERALLY for hours and hours about them... advantages and disadvantages.
So why don't you go on for hours then. I like the way you answered that and I want to hear more from you. Please continue...

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it really depends on what you like and what will you be doing with the car(drag, drift, Jdm tyteness )

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LOL, we'll see if the thread's author contacts me for HOURS of engine discussion.

I'm convinced that if ANYONE actually reads through the mountains of contributions from other members on these matters, they could converse at length about them. The only reason I can go on and on about 240sx engine swap options is because I've been <--> this close to swapping... for like two years. I can't decide what to do! LOL. In two years, you can soak up a LOT of information.

In a perfect world, I would advise EVERYONE to do that... just keep waiting, and keep reconsidering your options. Wait until you can afford a CA, then look at an SR. Once you've researched the SR, think back to what you liked about the CA, and think about the RB. When you find that you like the greater displacement of the RB25, go back to the KA. When you think about saving money, go back to the CA. Throw in a VG for good measure. Maybe an FJ. But never stop thinking about it.

That way, by the time you're ready to swap, you'll KNOW you got the right engine... or a better car will come along! LOL.

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lol thats funny...thats what i did. at first i wanted a sr, then i wanted a rb then ca then couldnt decide between ca and rb...then i ended up with a new ka and now learning about ka-t.

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Locked

+1 for thread not containing stupid commentary.

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IWannaS15 wrote:Thread will be locked soon, no matter how valid or informative the posts are.
Thats because you always get the dorks coming into the thread spouting off a bunch of incorrect, incoherant, and mostly irrelevant commentary.

Ex. OMG, the KA24 is so much better because it has 2.4L's that means it is more powerful! The SR will never be as fast! [insert obligatory high powered KA-T sack riding comment here]

OR

OMG, the SR20 is so much better because it has a higher redline and it was turbo from the factory, and my friend has one that makes 800whp at 1500 RPM and he smokes Enzo's on the highway!

I could go on for years.
IWannaS15 wrote:We arent even allowed to joke about KA vs SR anymore.
Thats because it's like the "your mom" joke you've heard 10,000,000 times... literally.
IWannaS15 wrote:I hear Nismo Freak coming... RUN!
Lay off the juice...


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