Turbo or supercharger kit for the 1.8l versa???

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Is there kits out there? any links?

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No there isn't.

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Hey guys, im bored at work and I just saw this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

Turbo?

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tKowReCkLeSs wrote:Hey guys, im bored at work and I just saw this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

Turbo?
I do not see a exhaust manifold one of the main parts!That kit is the same for a AMC Pacer and a Model A Ford.

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From what I have been told, there was one made, and the drivetrain of the car couldn't handle it.

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tKowReCkLeSs wrote:Hey guys, im bored at work and I just saw this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

Turbo?
And where's the engine software tuning? You can't just bolt up a turbo and expect it to work. Learn more about force induction before you turn a single bolt on the car. That kit is nothing more than a collection of cheap counterfeit parts.


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Artisan created a turbo Versa for SEMA a couple years back but it was pretty much a bolt-on turbo with custom manifold and FMIC with no engine management. The kit was later removed and sold to a member here who has it on his car, altho there have been some issues with it.

In general, no, there are no manufactured turbo kits for the Versa and you would have to roll the dice and build your own, hopefully with some engine management capabilities.

For those of you posting SEARCH reply's, don't bother. If you don't want to answer a question then don't.

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zerothread?id=203361

^^^ ZPI did the initial work on the SEMA Versa and following that thread you can probably see why it went nowhere. If you want to pursue this direction then I suggest looking overseas for anyone who has built turbo Tiida's.

Here is a vid link to the SEMA Versahttp://videos.streetfire.net/v...7.htm

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And that car was disassembled and sold for parts. Someone bought the kit and proceeded to have their V die on them. It's not worth it. If you wan't something like a turbo V just get a Mazdaspeed 3.

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Red Devil wrote:If you wan't something like a turbo V just get a Mazdaspeed 3.
That's #1 on my top five cars I can actually afford list.

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I wonder if the 1.5L supercharger kit from Impul would fit the 1.8L?

It was briefly discussed in this thread, but it went to poop in a hurry.zerothread/297736

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tyler ofspain's car did not die, he came back on and said that turbo went out. he put it back to stock and it runs fine now.

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Promise Land wrote:I wonder if the 1.5L supercharger kit from Impul would fit the 1.8L?

It was briefly discussed in this thread, but it went to poop in a hurry.zerothread/297736
2 completely different engines, so no it wouldn't.

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Hey Red,

You don't know that unless you've tried, quit trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Many parts are interchangeable from one engine to another. Just look at all the different combinations of stuff you can build for a honda. I can also take an intake manifold from a Ford 428 Cobra Jet and it will bolt directly to the 390FE in my truck.

The fact of the matter is manufacturers re-use similar parts on different vehicles to save money. It's not out of the question that Nissan decided to use the same intake manifold on the 1.5/1.6/1.8L engines.

The main question is who is really willing to pony up the dough to find out if it will fit or not.

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justmerging wrote:Hey Red,

You don't know that unless you've tried, quit trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Many parts are interchangeable from one engine to another. Just look at all the different combinations of stuff you can build for a honda. I can also take an intake manifold from a Ford 428 Cobra Jet and it will bolt directly to the 390FE in my truck.

The fact of the matter is manufacturers re-use similar parts on different vehicles to save money. It's not out of the question that Nissan decided to use the same intake manifold on the 1.5/1.6/1.8L engines.

The main question is who is really willing to pony up the dough to find out if it will fit or not.
HR15DEMR18DE

not the same engines. Furthermore, the pulley's are most likely different sizes, therefore the belts will be different. The ECU/Piggyback used will also not be compatible for the MR18 as it's using different fuel maps for the HR ECU. There is also the issue of clearance, as things designed to fit around the HR may not fit around the MR18. You can't just slap something designed for a completely different engine with completely different displacement and expect it to just fit and work.

The simple fact is that it's not as simple as, "are the intake manifolds the same". Think about some other things in addition to the obvious before you go running your mouth.

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justmerging wrote:The main question is who is really willing to pony up the dough to find out if it will fit or not.
Not me because with all the money I save by NOT modding my car, I can just go out and get a V6 Altima one day instead that will look sleek, ride smooth, and would kill ricers for thousands of miles without blowing up.

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Go away you troll.

I inderstand there is more invovled to fitment other than if it will just bolt up. But any hot rodder knows that if it will bolt up it can be made to fit. And seeing how I'm an ASE certified Master Tech and have been moddifying and hot rodding cars going on nearly 20 years I'm speaking from experience not just "running my mouth" you douche.

You don't know anything in regards to this as I doubt you have ever even seen an HR motor in person. Your statement to which it will not work is merely speculation. I just merely speculated that it may work.

I didn't get it to specifics because he didn't ask that. If the original poster had asked I would have happily let him know. To be more thorough you may have to change the pulley on the blower and more than likely have to source your own belt as the one that comes in the kit may not fit. You will definately have to get a cutom ECU tune to support the boost in airflow which may also necessitate an upgraded fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, regulator). If it does bolt up then you also need to check to make sure that it doesn't interfere with any hoses or electrical leads and check clearance around other body panels. Also depending on the power output you may also need to upgrade your drivetrain to include clutch, transmission, CV joints. Then with the added speed you'll need to upgrade the brakes, blah, blah, blah.

Is that enough detail for you.

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I also wouldn't shell out that kind of cash on this car. That's what my cobra's for. However, a propberly built and maintained engine (ie. balanced and blueprinted) will definately last many many miles.

If you think that a bone stock altima will kill everything with 4 cyl you are sadly mistaken.

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justmerging wrote:...If you think that a bone stock altima will kill everything with 4 cyl you are sadly mistaken.
Agreed, I thought that was an ignorant thing to say.

Now if you said you would save up and bought yourself a M3, M5, Viper, Z06, GTR or something of the like and would easily kill ricers all day for thousands of miles and be reliable then I'd agree with you. V6 Altima? When the hell did they become fast and kill ricers all day?

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justmerging wrote:Go away you troll.

I inderstand there is more invovled to fitment other than if it will just bolt up. But any hot rodder knows that if it will bolt up it can be made to fit. And seeing how I'm an ASE certified Master Tech and have been moddifying and hot rodding cars going on nearly 20 years I'm speaking from experience not just "running my mouth" you douche.

You don't know anything in regards to this as I doubt you have ever even seen an HR motor in person. Your statement to which it will not work is merely speculation. I just merely speculated that it may work.

I didn't get it to specifics because he didn't ask that. If the original poster had asked I would have happily let him know. To be more thorough you may have to change the pulley on the blower and more than likely have to source your own belt as the one that comes in the kit may not fit. You will definately have to get a cutom ECU tune to support the boost in airflow which may also necessitate an upgraded fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, regulator). If it does bolt up then you also need to check to make sure that it doesn't interfere with any hoses or electrical leads and check clearance around other body panels. Also depending on the power output you may also need to upgrade your drivetrain to include clutch, transmission, CV joints. Then with the added speed you'll need to upgrade the brakes, blah, blah, blah.

Is that enough detail for you.
I don't troll. He asked a question, I tried to answer it to the point. You then came in with some unnecessary attitude and responded to my post with said attitude. Personally, I don't care what you are. I could say I'm a freaken member of th secret service. You say your a certified technician/mechanic. Spectacular. What does that matter to me or any other regular guy who tools around on their cars?

1 question, you say you've been doing it for nearly 20 years correct? So you've been doing all this since you were 8?
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silverarrow27 wrote:
Agreed, I thought that was an ignorant thing to say.

Now if you said you would save up and bought yourself a M3, M5, Viper, Z06, GTR or something of the like and would easily kill ricers all day for thousands of miles and be reliable then I'd agree with you. V6 Altima? When the hell did they become fast and kill ricers all day?
Since the day 4 cylinder civics, base lancers, and many other dinky 4 cylinder cars didn't become faster because of a fart can or a turbocharger thrown on a stock engine with no real modifications so it blows up and before it does, it's still slow as s*** as compared to 4 cylinders that are turboed properly or turboed from the factory such as a srt-4, evo, or wrx.

The point I'm trying to make is go ahead and turbo an engine but have some damn sense about it. If you're gonna turbo a Versa, be able to build the damn thing up before you do it. The stock engine and tranmission was NOT meant to handle a turbo. Call me negative all you want. It's true.

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Guys, with enough money anything is possible.

Otherwise, keep things to a discussion instead of an argument. There is a difference.

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Shad0wXCalibur wrote:
Since the day 4 cylinder civics, base lancers, and many other dinky 4 cylinder cars didn't become faster because of a fart can or a turbocharger thrown on a stock engine with no real modifications so it blows up and before it does, it's still slow as s*** as compared to 4 cylinders that are turboed properly or turboed from the factory such as a srt-4, evo, or wrx.

The point I'm trying to make is go ahead and turbo an engine but have some damn sense about it. If you're gonna turbo a Versa, be able to build the damn thing up before you do it. The stock engine and tranmission was NOT meant to handle a turbo. Call me negative all you want. It's true.
I get your point, but I don't see the V6 Altima beating the S2000(one of the dinky 4 cylinders out there) anytime soon.

JK!

I do get your point, seriously!


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No Turbo kits for the Versa yet, but we're working on the tuning software as we speak. If anyone is in the central Texas area with a Versa it would be nice to get the car here for a few minutes so we can get the ROM file from the ECU.

We'll be posting an open call on our website once we have a few ROMs patched and ready to tune.

Once there is proper tuning software for the Versa, I don't see an issue with doing a turbo. I wouldn't expect the transmission to handle an extra 100hp or anything without some supporting mods though. The CVT cars are in for a whole hell of alot of work, though the manuals should be good for some spirited driving if someone can source a decent clutch and an LSD for them.



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