Turbo manifold i just made

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It's constructed of 304SS schedule 10 weld els and 1/2" thick flanges. It is divided and is to be used with divided t4 turbine turbos and twin Tial 44mm vband wastegates. It was TIG welded in two passes. First a root pass then a filler pass both while being backpurged for superior weld quality inside and out. WG ports have been braced to prevent breaking. Collector was welded inside and out and the turbo flange was hand ported to transition from the collector to the turbo without additional turbulence. Flanges were resurfaced and entire manifold was hi temp coated. The coating alone was $175.

Turbo manifold is now for sale for $800 plus shipping. Serious inquiries only please.



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that there sir is a work of art, to bad you weretn closer i would have you build one for me

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Wow.. .very badass...

I want that intake manifold!

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Major Powah! looks good.

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Cakesfab wrote: Turbo is now for sale for $800 plus shipping. Serious inquiries only please.
Did you mean turbo manifold? If so, that is a RIDICULOUSLY cheap price for that quality of a manifold. Great job on the fabrication. It's always nice to see quality custom work.

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steve s14 wrote:
Did you mean turbo manifold? If so, that is a RIDICULOUSLY cheap price for that quality of a manifold. Great job on the fabrication. It's always nice to see quality custom work.
Yea, sorry. I meant turbo manifold. Thanks

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Really cant believe that your letting this manifold go for so cheap. Your welds are quality, the turbo placement is ideal for a drag setup, and the manifold seems to be built rock solid. Is that thing equal length? Hard to tell.

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wow looks sick, glws

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480sx wrote:Really cant believe that your letting this manifold go for so cheap. Your welds are quality, the turbo placement is ideal for a drag setup, and the manifold seems to be built rock solid. Is that thing equal length? Hard to tell.


It is not perfectly equal. Manifolds should be within an 1/8" to be considered a true equal length and realistically, no one goes through that trouble of acquiring this without paying a hefty price. Considering all of the other manifolds available for the KA right now, this is a steal. I don't know how i haven't been able to sell this thing by now.

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Maybe if it kept the PS you'd have some bites. Looks like a drag only piece...most of Nico is broke DD slobs like me. Try drag240sx or somewhere else.

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NateDogg wrote:Maybe if it kept the PS you'd have some bites. Looks like a drag only piece...most of Nico is broke DD slobs like me. Try drag240sx or somewhere else.
We are broke

To tell you the true i really considered buying your setup. But i currently have a T3(SC61) turbo, so i will have to sell my turbo, buy a t4 turbo, and get the twin wastegates. This is a lot of money for me. But it is an awsome deal for someone that it is beginning their setup and is looking for big numbers.

good luck with sale.

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why twin wastegates

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jbracy7 wrote:why twin wastegates
twin scroll = twin wastegates = faster spool

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Cakesfab = Miami240 :0

i remember he raced a 5.0 sprayed 1st gen rx7 good race btw.

was wondering if you can copy other mani's?

like this 1 for example


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Reno wrote:Cakesfab = Miami240 :0

i remember he raced a 5.0 sprayed 1st gen rx7 good race btw.

was wondering if you can copy other mani's?

like this 1 for example
Thanks. I don't like copying other people's stuff.

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TY sir

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have you seen the tomei expreme manifold?

http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003....html

now i know you said you don't copy other manifolds but i don't think they're gonna make one for the ka. i was just wondering if you could make a manifold to mimic the attributes of this manifold. i have 2 friends with sr's and one has this mani one doesn't. needless to say this mani makes a noticable difference.

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turbonola wrote:have you seen the tomei expreme manifold?

http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003....html

now i know you said you don't copy other manifolds but i don't think they're gonna make one for the ka. i was just wondering if you could make a manifold to mimic the attributes of this manifold. i have 2 friends with sr's and one has this mani one doesn't. needless to say this mani makes a noticable difference.
I think you need to stop looking at the brand so much and just look at the product. There is absolutely nothing special about it. It's just a regular divided manifold with the division removed about half an inch from the edge of the flange. Take a look at the cylinders that are paired and then take a look at mine. If you really want to see the benefits, run a fully divided setup like mine and enjoy.

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Cakesfab wrote:
I think you need to stop looking at the brand so much and just look at the product. There is absolutely nothing special about it. It's just a regular divided manifold with the division removed about half an inch from the edge of the flange. Take a look at the cylinders that are paired and then take a look at mine. If you really want to see the benefits, run a fully divided setup like mine and enjoy.
how many divided t2 flanges do you know of. i'm not worried about brand, i run a cxracing manifold. i just wanna see if that type of manifold can be replicated for ka's. i've seen the difference between a tomei expreme and a regular tubular mani. i was just wondering if you could do it but i'll try it myself next year. i'm going to a tech school to attempt to learn to weld.

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That manifold doesnt even really count as a twin scroll manifold. It still has a collector just like any other manifold. You cant even freaken get a t2 flanged divided turbo because the benefits simply arnt worth the additional cost of making a true twin scroll setup with the low hp recommendations for a t2 flange.

That product is snake oil. At high flow high rpm operations your still going to have exhaust pulses mixing inside the turbing housing along with the top of the exhaust manifold will still create unequal pressures that the manifold is 'designed to prevent'. Strait BS.

Its more responsive because it has a smaller internal volume Vs the normal SR manifolds that have high runners. They have runners like that to try to keep it more equal length, which in turn puts down more torque, more power, at the cost of a little bit of spool time.

All im sayin is that manifold is nothing special at all, and IMO is 700 dollars that could be better spent on a real topmount equal length setup. For the t2 flange you dont want to push more than 350 hp anyway unless you have a HUGE wastegate setup. Even then.. Your drive pressures get so out of whack that your turbine is trying to pull itself out of the turbo, which is going to trash it prematurely.

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Like said before, looks like a good drag manifold. Most of the guys here are into daily drivers, or the occasional drift/auto-X.Congrats on the welds. Looks nice. Also, not a For Sale forum.

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very nice!

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This reminded me of the build that Turbo Magazine just did on a KA engine, that was an awesome setup.

It's a KA manifold, Where I'm at all anyone wants are SR's... Which is lame in my opinion but not alot of the guys around here drag there cars... As mentioned it definetly looks like a true drag setup.

Great looking parts though

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Thank you all for the nice comments. I just wish i could sell this thing now so that i can buy the gates for my next manifold.

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i don't see why it won't sell, that thing is pimpin.

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turbonola wrote:i don't see why it won't sell, that thing is pimpin.
Because you can't install it on a 240SX unless you're getting rid of power steering. Which is retarded unless you're building a race only car. There are manifolds available that don't require 2 wastegates and allow you to keep the power steering AND are roughly the same price.

Yes that manifold looks like a quality unit, but it has some very negative things that come with it.

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WDRacing wrote:
Because you can't install it on a 240SX unless you're getting rid of power steering. Which is retarded unless you're building a race only car. There are manifolds available that don't require 2 wastegates and allow you to keep the power steering AND are roughly the same price.

Yes that manifold looks like a quality unit, but it has some very negative things that come with it.
Some people are more serious about performance than others. Hopefully there's someone out there that still has a good sized sack.

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I don't think if the manifold FORCES you to remove powersteering doesn't make it a performance manifold.

I'm with WD, I think you can buy manifolds that offer similar performance without forcing you to remove the powersteering and have 2 wastegate.

Kudos on the manifold though, I wish I knew how to weld.

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Razi wrote:I don't think if the manifold FORCES you to remove powersteering doesn't make it a performance manifold.

I'm with WD, I think you can buy manifolds that offer similar performance without forcing you to remove the powersteering and have 2 wastegate.

Kudos on the manifold though, I wish I knew how to weld.
If you want the full benefit of a divided manifold, you need to keep the exhaust pulses completely separated.... hence two gates instead of one. Each gate port was placed perfectly in the middle of the merge of each pair of cylinders to provide equal flow from each runner. Two gates also provide much better boost control over one. And the fact that i ported the transition from the collector to the turbo flange also means much less turbulence and restriction. Little things like boost control and flow is what causes me to give up some unnecessary accessories. Everything was done with performance in mind and THAT'S what makes it a performance manifold.

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Cakesfab wrote:
If you want the full benefit of a divided manifold, you need to keep the exhaust pulses completely separated.... hence two gates instead of one. Each gate port was placed perfectly in the middle of the merge of each pair of cylinders to provide equal flow from each runner. Two gates also provide much better boost control over one. And the fact that i ported the transition from the collector to the turbo flange also means much less turbulence and restriction. Little things like boost control and flow is what causes me to give up some unnecessary accessories. Everything was done with performance in mind and THAT'S what makes it a performance manifold.

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The benefits you gain from this are so outweighed by losing powersteering it's not even worth talking about.

Want to design something that doesn't eliminate factory stuff, then you'll get praise, until then you're just a dude that welded another mani. Not even equal length runners and your praising efficiency...how about no. I gave you more then you deserved when I said it was a nice manifold. What you have are quality welds in a package that fits basically no one. Have fun selling something no one wants...

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