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Hey guys, i am new to silvias and Im looking for a complete turbo kit for my 91' 240 i just picked up, cant seem to find anything. Something that will put out a safe but high psi. Perhaps a list of parts to obtain what im looking for?

-Thanks for the help


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Read the stickies on top to find out what a full turbo kit should consist of and then shop around on ebay...summitracing...our classifieds section (the list is endless) and peice together a kit.

Sounds easy but you'll be suprised how much companies charge for just doing what I just described

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yea u can do what he said and piece together a turbo kit which is smart. but 1 piece of advice i can give u is to remember what every one that is farmiliar with turbos knows. one of the most important thing with fi is compression. and yess we all know that the stock cr of the k is 9.5:1 which is fine for a turbo, but u will not be able to run high psi . which i suggest dropping to a 8.5:1 if u really want to run high psi,. on the other hand the car will NOT run good at all out of boost. another thing about the k motor is that the rods are like pencil thin, i suggest doing a rebuild mostly for that purpose, get new rods forged heads for an 8.5:1 cr and crank bearings and get ur crank journaled and balanced. ull be right where u wanna be.

pm me or post back with ur intentions and ill do my best to set u up wit a list.

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Welcome to Nico Sean,

There are about a million different combo's you can get involved with here. I'd say the best thing to do would be to figure out a dollar amount you'd like to spend and exactly how much work you're willing to do. Things like swapping the internals out for forged parts, engine management etc. There are literally tons of options.

Answer those questions and we'll be able to help you out alot easier. We know nothing about you, other then you like outdoor stuff, guns and long walks on the beach...lol, just messin with ya.

WD

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A very close friend of mine put just over 500whp to the ground on completely stock internals and I know of 20-30 who sit at or around 350WHP all with stock internals and the 9.5:1 static compression ratio. CR is the last thing you'll need to worry about, the rods bend long before compression keeps you from making power.

Oh, we're starting a new thing in Tech forums like this, we use semi correct grammar. I don't care about what you say so long as it's not one long *** sentence and contains capitals where they should be. This isn't AIM, your cell phone or Gen Chat...lets put forth a little effort.

ThanksWD

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Sure its possable , but on the other hand i dont think i would risk it. Ive heard of people habving problems kn a k-t build witht here rods especially. I dont know the exast number the internals are rated for but if ur tellin me that i can just throw a turbo on stock internals and be fine then ok. Do you know how much stock internals on a stock cr can hold and at what psi?

P.S. : Like the semi- grammar?!?

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I persoanlly tossed the #3 rod myself. I was running an unknown amount of power but it was 20 psi with pretty big turbo, so I'm guessing 400ish.

The KA will safely produce 300WHP all day as long as its tuned semi decent. I was waiting to rebuild a spare motor when mine went so...

With a DOHC type motor design, compression ratio's under 10 are good for boost. The key isn't reducing compression, its having the proper ignition retard on boost and fuel management.

Thats perfect grammar in my book by the way, thats all I'm asking for. Thanks.

WD

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Well the ignition retard and the feul management is a givin , every 1with a half a brain for mods knows that . Question, whats is it with the number 3 rod? Is that the 1 that always gives in? Im buying a spare k tomorro but if i can save the extra money ans put it into a safc then ill do that and run stock internals. I know the stock cr in the k is 9.5:1 so in which case i should be fine to run 15 psi? How about the pistons, arent they suppsoed to be forged to handle the pressure? Will the stock pistions and rings hold the psi?. Thanks WD, call me JP

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I will have about a 3.5-4k budget by June, however I have a brand new DE in it with a little over 5k miles. I plan to purchase the turbo before i start saving for the pistons and rods. I don't need anything too intense, im shooting for about 250hp so i can at least stand a chance to my brothers WRX.

Before all of this i need to get myself a new clutch, possibly flywheel as well. What is the best thing i can get that will support around 300hp with not too stiff of a pedal?

By the way, excuse my fairly limited knowledge, this is my first vehicle purchase after moseying around in a Ford F250. Im sure you have all been in the same place as me. I appreciate the help.

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No worries bro, we're all noobs at some point...although I was born a genious...lol.

I recommend Spec Stg4 Clutch and the Spec Lightweight Flywheel. Might as well change the FW while you're in there. You don't have to of course, in fact some people prefer not to. It doesn change the driving a bit, like there isn't much for motor braking if you know what that means.

Don't look at any turbo's smaller then a T3, it makes for a much easier upgrade later down the road. For that price you should be able to get a bolt on kit...have you looked?

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You dont put anything on a project or race car that you cant or dont plan on using down the line. WD why did u only up the #3 rod? What is it with that 1? The stock cr on the k is 9.5:1 if im not mistaken, so 15 psi shouldnt be out the question on stock internals right>?

If i can save the 200 bucks on the motor and jsut put it twards a safc then im gonna go wit that . Thanks

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The #3 has some type of casting defect from the factory. Whether its lubrication or somthing else, its always the #3 that goes first.

You can go ahead and buy the SAFC, the CR is perfect.

WD

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I will take your word about the flywheel and save the cash.

Ive looked for kits around and all i can find is for the 95'+, a little disappointing.

If you guys are willing to help a poor soul... a list of stuff to get would be very helpful.

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I'll work one out for ya, the easiest way is simply to look at a complete turbo kit, see what it comes with and duplicate it for your car.

WD

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I would deffinatly do that, but i don't have enough knowledge to know whats best to get, you know what i mean?

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Here's a kit for you. I'm not sure if they fit the S13 and S14 but I believe so. They are great guys, call them up and they'll answer any of your questions.

The kits they have are all very good products.

http://www.import-autoperforma....html

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Thanks a ton man, im looking into the Stage 1+ kit with the MAF, 300+hp.

anything else i would possibly need besides a clutch and pistons/rods?

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Ok, then figure i go by the safc and the turbo , manifold, intercooler, etc. What do you think is my limit safely on stock internals? Being that if im not doing a k build and essentially doins a K-t bolt on , how much can i push the internals especially the #3 rod?

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If you guys stay close to 300whp I don't see you needing to upgrade pistons or rods. Anything over 350 makes me nervous as far as longevity goes.

WD

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So 300 wheel sounds good to me. You really don't need more than 300 for street drivin anyways. What set up is best for me then and how much psi do you think is good for me on stock internals?

By the way does any one know bout rear subframe bushing inserts? I know I need to replace the bushings I got the old 240 body knock. Does any one know where I can get them from or heard about them?


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