Turbo Kit diy cost seems too high.

[nissan_star]

This is the turbo kit i have pieced together for my KA. The only parts I have bought are the 550cc injectors and 255 fuel pump from d.w. I just think that it came out to be way more $ then I expected. People talk about their own turbo build and they say like $2k, i understand that I am going for 280-300whp, but do you guys/gals see anywhere I can, I hate to use this word but, skimp out on?

T3/TO4E .57 trim? 60AR?- $600 $300 ebay used?Peakboost manifold (T3)- $900 Ebay downpipe- $125 JWT ECU- $360 Z32 MAF- $15 550cc side feed fuel injectors- $279 Walbro Pump- $99 Ebay intercooler- $150 Greddy Type S BOV- $150 tanabe Medalion G- $500 Nismo FPR- $100? 38mm Wastegate ebay (Tial)- $100? JWT Z33 Flywheel and Clutch Kit- nesc?Greddy Profec Type S EBC- $275 Autometer Gauges- ????PLX M300 Wideband- ???? nesc.? total: $3,653

Does this look like a good start for about 280-300whp?

Thanks for reading!

[nissan_star]

I dont know how I got three new topics when I posted this, but can someone delete the extras?

[Reno]

if your going for 300hp max then use an s15 turbo or GtiR turbo, t25 mani

and fill in the blanks and call it a day.

GTiR T28 $450Ebay Manifold (t25) $100Ebay downpipe- $125 enthoply ECU- $500 Z32 MAF- $80-120550cc side feed fuel injectors- $279 Walbro Pump- $99 Ebay intercooler- $150 Greddy Type S BOV- $150 Nismo FPR- $100? Autometer Gauges- $200Wideband- $?? total: Roughly 2500 and don't forget oil lines

Does this look like a good start for about 280-300whp?

[xrproto07]

Sure you can skip on things,But why when it appears you areHeading in the right direction?

[nissan_star]

Sure you can skip on things,But why when it appears you areHeading in the right direction?

I dont know man, it just seems like it is all too much $, I posted what I want, but i cant find a better deal for the parts. I understand I have a $500 tanabe exhaust and a $900 peakboost manifold, are there other options that I overlooked here?

And to Reno, I never said only 300whp. 280-300whp with growing room is more like it. This is why I went imediatly to a T3 setup not a T25. I will post later when sober.

[xrproto07]

Yeah the price for your turbo kit. Are or if not all ready put a good dent in your wallet, as for the T3 turbo that's a great choice for your goals and will give you a good room to grow with your injectors and jwt tune. I highly recommend you to check out jgs stuff bro, good prices and quality parts. You can't really find better deals for there prices, I myself will be ordering their starter kit.

[WDRacing]

You're thinking along the right lines here. You know you want room to grow, so you've trashed the T2 flanged stuff, great idea BTW.

Here's what I'd do if I were in your shoes and wanted to get something decent to start out and then improve upon as money got saved and I needed more power.

http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.htmlJGS DOHC Manifold = $413Used Holset Turbo = $350 at mostCustom downpipe = $150 at mostEBay FMIC kit = up to $300 depending

The above is the root kit to be built upon. This should allow you to max out the stock internals and then some.

In the beginning I'd just get a 8:1 Vortech FMU and retard the base timing 2-3 degree's.

Once you feel what a few lbs of boost is like you'll be able to determine your end goals much better. Cause 7-8 psi is enough to shred tires all by itself.

Your next upgrade should be done all at once, Rom Tune, Injectors, cams etc. All bought as a matched set for the best bang/buck combo.

That's what I'd do.

WD

[480sx]

^^ +1

Also, dont go with the 57 trim it has a much more narrow efficency window than a 50 trim. 50 trims are THE all around turbo to get for 10psi+ to 450 hp.

A 50 trim .63 ar kicks *** on a Ka.

[nissan_star]

In the beginning I'd just get a 8:1 Vortech FMU and retard the base timing 2-3 degree's.

I was kind of hoping to aviod this aproach. Will I be able to run my 550cc injectors and 255 Fuel pump?

[xrproto07]

You got a great setup with the 550cc's injectors, room to grow,And great for your power goals, with being said, the T3 is the way to go.

[WDRacing]

I was kind of hoping to aviod this aproach. Will I be able to run my 550cc injectors and 255 Fuel pump?

If you have the injectors and pump already, then just get a rom tune to match.

[nissan_star]

Do I still need the wideband?

[WDRacing]

I highly recommend one...

[kouki_hmongster]

Do I still need the wideband?

Unless if your car is dyno tuned, then make sure you get that wideband. aem cost around 220+ and it's cheaper than a blown motor.

i spent way more than what i expected, so always set price a little higher. gasket and every little thing adds up so GL.

[nissan_star]

yeah, i am assuming like $500 in extra stuff then i will have on the kit cost itself. The starter kit is a good help tough, i dont know if i want their turbo but i think i will get wastegate. i am also gonna want a lsd and bigger tires and coilovers. The way I see it is someone has to stimulate the economy, why not me.

[nifares240]

you also need a bigger radiator like koyo. if you haven't done suspension, you might want to do that first.

[motoman399]

got an idea.. sell me the injectors. buy a different manifold, and cat back. buy an ebay clutch and save/make some money. ill even send you an 8:1 fmu. i had it on my old setup and it kicked butt. till someone ran a red light and i totalled the car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

this great manifoldhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318

and a clutch kit like this one would be fine im sure. or spend a little more and get a better one.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318

[nissan_star]

you also need a bigger radiator like koyo. if you haven't done suspension, you might want to do that first.

It has a brand new koyo radiator, i think it is oe size though, i dont remember cause the car is in STL and i am at school in Rolla, MO.

Do you reallly think i should suspension before i turbo? I thought about it and was hoping this summer i would have the turbo on and get coilovers then while i break in the turbo. It has a nismo power brace, a 28mm front sway bar, and a front strut bar already. Do I really need anything else?

[DMan II-40]

I'll take that FMU if he doesn't want it, lol.

[sunnys14]

Cheap and KA-T shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

[steve s14]

^ +1 If you want your car to put out reliable power. Cost depends on how you look at it. I know a person who thinks that spending over $1000 on a turbo setup is a ripoff. For him it might be because he gets hookups and sometimes free parts. If you're like me and most people in this world, you're not getting massive discounts and free parts thrown at you.spending a little under 4k for a 200hp and double the torque increase is a pretty good deal in my opinion, considering that you would spend about the same for an sr swap and get around 170rwhp if you're lucky.

Btw, clutch upgrade is absolutely needed if you want to be able to put the power down. The stock clutch is gonna get raped!

[nifares240]

to be honest, you need suspension because the car will behave differently. you need to be able to control the car with more power meaning stronger suspension components, brakes, and drive train. everything has to balance out. you change one thing you need to change three other things to make it work. I learn this from working on my car for many years. like I said, everything has to balance. without it, it's a no no.

I have about 4k saved up for my turbo set, and still planning to save up 1.5k more. and I still need to buy a wideband, boost controller, oil and water gauges, clutch, flywheen, and radiator.

you need a wideband if you want to keep your motor intact. if you can, try getting the dual core koyo rad. it's the fatter radiator than the stock size.

[beatd]

if your worried about the cost of going turbo just sell me your car i'll be more than happy to have another boosted 240

[nissan_star]

if your worried about the cost of going turbo just sell me your car i'll be more than happy to have another boosted 240

Im not worried, I just hear other people say they turbod their KA for like $2000, obviously they are prob running T25 or somthing, or maybe they just get shop hookups, i dunno. I really just wanted to post my kit and see what people though about the prices.

[motoman399]

you do have a good setup. but there is some stuff you could have gotten cheaper to have good power and reliability. like you dont need a $900 manifold. that one i posted off of ebay is a t3 or t4 flange in case you ever wanted to go bigger. there is lots of stuff that if you search you can get for a better deal.

[nissan_star]

you do have a good setup. but there is some stuff you could have gotten cheaper to have good power and reliability. like you dont need a $900 manifold. that one i posted off of ebay is a t3 or t4 flange in case you ever wanted to go bigger. there is lots of stuff that if you search you can get for a better deal.

The only parts i have bouth so far are the injectors and fuel pump, thats because I got them cheap.

[spooled240]

i spent about 3K on my DIY project and I used ebay parts like the turbo and manifold! My JWT reflash, z32 mafs and 555cc injectors did cost me 1500 alone though.

It adds up quick and underestimating the cost of a DIY projects somewhat normal..

what that wouldn't be necessary IMHO is the brand name exhaust(just get a nice muffler and get an exhaust shop to make you one for cheap)I don't think the nismo FPR isn't really necessary, the wideband is nice but you have the JWT ecu so timing/afr's should be taken care of, you don't need the greddy Profec type S EBC(just run it off the WG spring alone, a new tIAL spring is like 30 bux) the only two gauges you should really get to start off with is boost and oil pressure IMO.

Just skimping out on some things just to get your ride going for a bit cheaper may save you around 500 bux easily. And remember, the more things you do yourself will also save a ton of money.

EDIT! that cast iron manifold that motoman posted looks like a treadstone manifold. I just bought one for my s14 and i'm running into fitment problems with the brake master cylinder using a tangental turbo!!! Just a warning, I would recommend getting a manifold that has very good turbo placement(good distance from the brake master and not too high, etc)

[motoman399]

EDIT! that cast iron manifold that motoman posted looks like a treadstone manifold. I just bought one for my s14 and i'm running into fitment problems with the brake master cylinder using a tangental turbo!!! Just a warning, I would recommend getting a manifold that has very good turbo placement(good distance from the brake master and not too high, etc)

i have the same manifold just the real one. its a remake of a Rev Hard. its a top or bottom manifold. i also have a on-center turbine housing. http://www.turboneticsinc.com/...id=43 which brings it away from the BMC. so just to clarify that

[1WheelWonder]

I'd search the classifieds for cheap parts. I even think there is someones kickass complete KA-T setup forsale in the classifieds and the idiot only wants $2800 for everything.