Turbo Ka24e

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

I'm planing on starting a SOHC ka24e-t project. I own a 1990 240sx (with only 50k). I plan on getting my manifold from realnissan.com. I plan on using a exturnal waste gate w/ a TO4 turbo, any suggestions for a good deal on a TO4 turbo??? Of couse I plan on a intercooler and a BOV. But I need some help with my set up. First off where do I put the MAF??? I will have to past emissions on this so what I would like to do is to run SDS supplementary injectors once the bost hits 2-4 psi (were ever the stock injectors can't handle the boost) this way I can just remove the intercooler pipe and add a air filter and the car will be back down to stock emission. Anyway my question is with a the supplementary injectors be all I need in the way of engine managmet??? I'm only planing 5psi boost for everyday and 7 psi for racing (solo II and drag). I'm not sure if I need so ignition set up or not. OR should I just go with SDS stand alone??? I have hear thoses are "fool proof" and I don't want to screw anything up. The supplementary injectors would be cheaper. Sorry for the long post and if any comment or suggestion please post. Thanks.

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

Post by **zachosz** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

T04B' are cheap but a little outdated, T04E are more expensive but also better. Extra injectors sounds a little ghetto if you ask me, but it's just me talking. I would go with upgraded injectors, 370cc should be fine for 7psi, and you can swap the stock ones at emissions time. Don't quote me, but you would need some kind of fuel management if you add or upgrade your injectors, like an AFC or a reprogrammed ECU. Of course stand-alone management would be the best choice in any case, but also the most expensive. The MAF goes BEFORE the turbo.

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

Thanks, I'm really happy I got an answer to the MAF question. Is all I need to run 370cc injectors the AFC or do I have to get a reprogram? If all I need to run in the way of fuel is the AFC, 370cc injectors, and fuel pump I will do that. If i do that though Do i need to do anything else in the way of electronics. Like do I need control of the timming? basically I'm asking if all I run is the AFC, 370cc injectors, and fuel pump and the turbo stuff (boost contoler, waste gate, etc.) will I be ok?

p.s. Know were I could get a TO4?

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

the 370cc injectors that fit would be from a CA18DET, I've got a set for sale, and you can run the MAF after the turbo, it actually runs better that way (that's what I'm doing).

Then you'd need either an Emanage or SAFC (I prefer the HKS SAFR over the AFC but that's just me).

later,

PaulOrlando, FL

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

Ok if i do run the MAF after the turbo is it after the BOV?

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

whats wrong with my nissan driver you guys need to to come to your sences the KA24DE is the the motor

it has every thing to build horse power!!!!! their are no one out there that seem they know what to do to build the horse power on this car. not saying i know every thing but all i am saying is that i am building over 400hp on my stock internals.:icesangel

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

Well, if you are so smart, then answer my questions. Mine is a Ka24e not de.

P.s. I would like to see that 400hp on stock interanls, I don't think it can be done.

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

OK so after alot of research I think I have finished my Turbo list.

Manifold Realnissan $450Turbo T3-T04 from http://www.turborepair.com (2 year warrenty) $450HKS Super AFR (research made it sound better) $340APEXi Timer $70.00Ca18det or Sr20det injectors $120Fuel pump (suggestions who?) $150Autometer guages, boost/A/f $80custom exhaust $300Waste Gate (suggestions) $350BOV HKS $220FMIC $700Oil Lines $40vaccum lines/misc lines $20Boost Controler $100

Did I forget anything???Let see that is $3390. I will be doing the install my self so I will be ok. I would just like to know the best place for MAF and If I missed anything on my list.

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

the de and the e is from the same family the only major difference is that one is a single cam. the ka24e head is has the design of the past but it is able to build alot of horse power. we are in the year 2002 technology is advanceing "twin cam".you would like to see 400 and up on a stock ka

i could send you video tape of the dyno run with dyno sheets and puctures of the moto in the building process. you know what checkout this web sight http://www.Back-yard-production.com my car is there. :icesangel

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

I don't know everything about turbo cars, Most of the work I have done has been on old musle cars, so i am trying to learn. You say you do know alot michael walters but fail to anwser any of my questions. I would just like to know if On my list I have everthing I need to run 7psi of boost safely. Thanks You.

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

you have the what is needed but what are you going to do when the project is complet 7psi is nothing. you are going to want more boost

Post by **BinaryVertigo** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

michael,

either you are a nissan geniusor you are spreading misinformation

1. 400 "dyno" on stock internal? yes it's posible but you won't have an engine to go home with....and we all know how "dyno's" tell nothing but the truth...don't we?

s13ka24e,

let's assume you're goin to run 7 psi and occasionally turn it up to at most 9 psi, then use:

-starion FMIC for <$200 any junk yard or even ebay

-new walbro 255lph fuel pump ~$109 the last time i check so search around

-custom exhaust - just buy the damn apexi N1 for $450 and save yourself the trouble...it's a good buy and you'll love it...however if you MUST be shavy...then get a muffler shop to do it for you...should be 200 with all the piping+exhaust (make sure it's a str8 thru canister of at least 2.5 inner diameter)

-tial 35mm wg is around 230 shipped...very nice unit...but for lower boost you could also use Deltagate for around <$150 shipped to save some money...this is the wg most companies use for their standard setup

-manual boost controller $8 - $50 depending on what you want...the $8 one you buy parts from a hardware store and build it...dont ask me how to build it...search around

the rest of the parts you listed sounds alrightagain this is a set up to run low boost of 7-9 psi onlyif you want to boost anymore than thatstart saving for a rebuild with forged internals

hope that helps-demitri

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

I am not a genius i jus know what is needed to make the engin stay together FUEL AND TIMING REMEMBER THIS DO NOT FOR GET IT

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

michael walters wrote:i could send you video tape of the dyno run with dyno sheets and puctures of the moto in the building process.

i'd like to see a dyno sheet and/or some pictures. if you don't mind, can you post them here or email them to me?

[email protected]

you know what checkout this web sight http://www.Back-yard-production.com my car is there. :icesangel

the link doesn't work.

Post by **ADAMHU** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

there is nothing wrong with the sohc motor...in fact if you have worked on both of them,.....the sohc is much more friendly than the dohc...and IMO more reliable..and lighter weight.......plus once you port and do some head work to the sohc...it can out flow the dohc in stock form easy....

i have been working on the sohc turbo motor for 2 years now...and it still amazes me how simple it is....

Post by **S13Ka24e** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

demitri -starion FMIC for <$200 any junk yard or even ebay

-new walbro 255lph fuel pump ~$109 the last time i check so search around

These sound good

custom exhaust - friend owns a muffler shop, while there I will get my i/c piping done and down pipe.

-tial 35mm wg is around 230 shipped...very nice unit

That sounds good too.

-manual boost controller- i will probably just buy one for $50 bucks, i was thinking they were a 100, but whatever.

michael walters I am not a genius i jus know what is needed to make the engin stay together FUEL AND TIMING REMEMBER THIS DO NOT FOR GET IT

I have planned dyno time at a local shop where we are going to tune my fuel and timing.

demcj

The link is http://www.back-yard-productions.com/ ADAMHU

I agree i think at it is a good motor and for my first turbo car i think it is a good place to start.

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

my bad http://www.Back-yard-productions.com i for got the s on productions

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

which one is your car?

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

the SR20DET injectors would not fit a KA24E and the CA18DET injectors wouldn't fit a KA24DE just to clear that up (difference between topfeed and sidefeed).

Post by **michael Walters** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

the burgundy

Post by **gyfer** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:45 am

so, 24E is top feed, and 24DE is sidefeed ?

Post by **mangvang** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:58 am

hows ur car runnign now?

Turbo Ka24e

Turbo Ka24e

turbo KA24DE

turbo ka24de

Re: turbo ka24de

Re: turbo ka24de

Nissan Forums

Infiniti Forums

Datsun Forums

Technical Forums

Classifieds / Marketplace

Nissan Motorsports

General Forums