TT Swap Info/Help

[aroche25]

Hello I will be doing a TT swap over the summer with a couple of my friends.
Im wonder if it would be worth my time to look for a clip or buy the parts that dont come with the engine/transmission that you buy on ebay for example? Also if its better to buy the parts separately what do i need exactly in the piping/mounting area?
Finally what are some good suppliers I can buy the clip or the engine off of? Sorry to ask but there are many and this will be my first engine or clip purchase.
Also i figured about 4k will be sufficient for this swap after i sell the NA parts and buy some tools, do you guys think that is realistic?

Again thanks for any help! It is greatly appreciated.

[sdhsbaseball]

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[New Jersey]

im gonna do the swap later this year too.
i had originally thought that grabbing a clip and swapping in everything was the best bet.
then i thought about just getting a motor/transmission off ebay and buying up the remaining parts (rad,ac condesner/lines, fuel pump, ecu tune etc)
the more i thought about it the more i decided i just wouldnt feel good about tossing in an engine of unkown condition and was also concerned about the turbos.
this naturally led me down the path of considering replacing the turbos. rebuilding stockers is already a lot of money.
my next thought was the gt2554r kit that z1 sells. ok, great.
then i would grab the rail/injector/manifold/dp combo that ams offers. and some ebay upgrade sidemounts for good measure.
hmmm... you would also obviously want to replace clutch flywheel while you have the motor out.
and then you're putting an engine back in that may or may not be good.
in the end i decided i would have my n/a engine rebuilt with oem tt pistons/rings, oil squirters, and wrist pins. (i dont want forged piston even of they were free)
also roll with arp hardware and oem headgaskets. ive contacted someone i trust to build the engine and get the machine work done and then ill throw it all back in.
my point is that it kinda gets outta hand quickly and i wouldnt wanna risk swapping in some junkyard motor/turbos with stock old injectors etc...
many people on many z forums will tell you to sell your car and buy a tt. that may work for you.
i wouldnt want to buy a tt cuz it would still likely need the 120k done and i would still wanna have turbos and possibly engine rebuilt. check motor mounts etc
and then you still have to deal with clutch/flywheel at some point in your ownership.
that and getting rid of the hicas and crazy gearing of that heavier r230 rear.
fuel pumps go out too.
on my q the fuel pump died at 110k miles out of nowehere...

there are a lot of threads on this and most members will do nothing but point that out to you, hope my opinion mayhelp you in some way and gl bro

[aroche25]

Thanks that's what I was looking for opinions. Any others are welcome.


Thanks Again

[car nut]

Sell the NA, buy a TT. It's much cheaper and easier and it won't destroy your resale value.

i wouldnt want to buy a tt cuz it would still likely need the 120k done and i would still wanna have turbos and possibly engine rebuilt. check motor mounts etc
and then you still have to deal with clutch/flywheel at some point in your ownership.
that and getting rid of the hicas and crazy gearing of that heavier r230 rear.
fuel pumps go out too.
on my q the fuel pump died at 110k miles out of nowehere...

Sorry dude, I'm gonna disagree with most of this though. 120k kit is not more expensive than everything you would need for a TT swap, plus it's a ton easier.

Clutch/flywheel isn't too difficult with the right tools, you can do it in a weekend by yourself with little prior experience.

Deleting HICAS is easy.

Crazy gearing in the R230? The R230 has much better gearing than the R200 for a torque monster like the VG30. Also makes highway driving much quieter. And it's heavier for a reason, the R230 is considerably stronger (although I've never heard of anyone breaking either diff).

As far as the fuel pump, I've never heard of a problem with the TT pump. And you do realize you'd need to upgrade the pump anyways, right? NA pumps don't flow enough for a TT and you'll never flow as much with a Walbro as you will with a TT pump.

[New Jersey]

"resale value" lol

as if any of these cars was worth money. i assume the OP knows that the money he sinks is for his own enjoyment/peace of mind.
if i went out and bought a tt car i would still wanna replace turbos, ICs, radiator, delete hicas, etc
i dont see the point in selling the car since he will likely replace everything anyway
if he bought a tt all he would have over his na is mostly worthless stuff like really old t25 turbos and hicas that you need to spend money to get rid of.
to each his own.

[aroche25]

Okay so the swap is a good idea if i understand that I will never get my money out of it and it is for the fun of driving. Considering ive spent the cars value on mods so far, i will say this is for my fun and enjoyment. So the clip is the best bet price wise or buying a engine and the parts? I figure if i buy the clip i can sell leftovers but if i buy the engine alone, the parts I can get better nonoem stuff like Greddy/JWT/Z1 that will be better and last longer.

[New Jersey]

well as far as pipes are concerned im gonna pick these up: http://www.conceptzperformance.com/Cart ... e=300&UID= and use them with stock recirc valves.
i wouldnt bother getting a stock tt radiator, so i'll grab an aftermarket aluminum rad. not settled yet on intercoolers, but im leaning towards a set from ebay. (the smaller ones, not the huge godspeeds)
for manifolds/inj/dp/test im going with this: http://www.amsmotorsports.com/shop/ind/ ... t-kit.html
after these components the only advantage of a clip is the AC condenser and lines.
kinda funny, but theres really not much i would need from a turbo car at all.
i suppose it depends on how much you're willing to spend.
my route will cost ~ $11k all said and done. whole boat load of money, haha. this winter