Trying to make 6x9's fit in back of coupe- PICS

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FlipCoupe
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Well i've searched and i've searched and didnt really find much when it came to make 6x9's fit in the factory rear speaker location. I tried cutting the holes bigger but that just ended in a mess and speakers which didnt fit flush in the rear. This was a few days ago--

Fast forward to tonight, just spent the last 2hrs putting up Christmas stuff and was thinking about my 6x9 issue while i was on the roof (it didnt help that i was overlooking my 240 in the driveway and could see the s*** fitting speakers through he rear window. Well when i got the ridge of my house I saw some left over sheet metal on my deck from when my buddy installed a new furnace for me about a month ago, then a light bulb went off.


I figured I could make the shape out of the thin sheet metal using tin snips to cut it (i have limited cutting type tools....expecting a dremel for Christmas) Then I could smooth the edges and i planned to put a line of electric tape around the edges, wrap it in black suede since I plan to do my interior in black suede anyways. The metal is pretty thin so i know it will need some sort of support to keep it from vibrating and also to keep it level. I plan on using spray foam insulation to accomplish this.

Also the rear speaker cover was in s*** condition, the stock carboard stuff that is on the underside of the carpet was broke to s*** so i needed a replacement cover anyways and I figured worst case scenario it wont be hard to rip out if it doesn't work haha.

So here's my weapons, Stanley tin snips and a black sharpie

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Heres the sheet metal after I traced my first stencil

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heres what i used obviously haha

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I traced the round hole where the factory speaker goes then used that as a guide to trace where I wanted to mount the 6x9's

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After my first cuts I layed the rear carpet back over the sheet metal and made some adjustments

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After about an hour of cutting this is my stopping place. Im optimistic about the whole thing

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The last picture is just a mock up, was glad i finally got everything to fit
Anyways, what do you think nico?

********************UPDATE 11/30/10************************


Went to lowes and got some peel and stick roof flashing, went to a fabric store and got some imitation suede (Black), and I already had some spray adhesive from some arts and crafts for our son :). Here we go:

Covered 1 side with the peel and stick for sound deadening

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After I covered it I flipped it over and trimmed the excess (saved it for future sound deadening, never know when you'll need some odds and ends during that process)

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Covered the other side after trimming 1 side and then trimmed it as well

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The spray adhesive I used, tested it first on a small piece...works great

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First i attached a strip of the fabric I was using on the backside so that it would have something to hold onto while i stretched the front fabric to fit

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Forgot to take a pic after the step of putting the fabric on, never done this before so it was a little more difficult that I though, just sprayed the surface, then sprayed the fabric and stretched and smoothed it out as I went, don't be afraid to unstick it a few times if it has too many wrinkles.

here it is after I started making the holes for the speakers and tghe vents in the back. I made 6 cuts then just glued the flaps back .

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And after I completed it all

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And a mock up:

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Going to be installing tomorrow, more pics to come










and if you dont like my project at least enjoy some Christmas cheer :)
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Last edited by FlipCoupe on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:01 pm, edited 3 times in total.


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AZ89two4Tsx
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Why would you use sheet metal?

Fiber board would have been much better, not to mention cheaper. And you wouldn't have to worry about vibrations.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Why would you use sheet metal?

Fiber board would have been much better, not to mention cheaper. And you wouldn't have to worry about vibrations.

well if you would of read my amazing paragraphs you would of seen it was some material i just had laying around and since I didnt have anything else to do this fine evening I decided to give it a try.

If it doesnt work out I only wasted a couple hrs of time total and maybe $20 so not really a big deal. ($20 cuz i have no idea how much suede costs haha)

FlipCoupe
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DOUBLE POST!

Anyone know if I could wrap it in fleece and then fiberglass it? Just another idea that popped into my head and I have some leftover fiberglass resin from when i was repairing my piggy lip.

Probably going to try to finish this on Friday.

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You could but sounds like a lot of unnecessary work.

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wrap it in some sound deadening material, something to keep the vibrations away. Good job dude.

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angelscrx wrote:You could but sounds like a lot of unnecessary work.
240's in general are full of unnecessary work haha

krash wrote:wrap it in some sound deadening material, something to keep the vibrations away. Good job dude.
Thank you and good idea, gonna go try to find some peel and stick tomorrow, read the thread on it and it sounds like some good stuff, plan to deaden he entire car when i get new seats.

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so you have the whole thing cut out and stuff but how will you tighten it down?? and what about the original speakers holes? are you cutting away from it in the back window? im interested in this.

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costa_rican13 wrote:so you have the whole thing cut out and stuff but how will you tighten it down?? and what about the original speakers holes? are you cutting away from it in the back window? im interested in this.

not 100% on how im going to finish the whole thing, going to be some trial and error today but ill make sure to take pics

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Updated post 1. covered it in black suede. Check it out.

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Have you thought about mounting them on the underside of the rear deck? Ive done it that way to several different cars, just so it doesnt interfere with the trunk mechanism. Late 80s and early 90s Lesabres and Park Avenues have nice undermount boxes if you have a junkyard near.

FlipCoupe
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Eddiemac wrote:Have you thought about mounting them on the underside of the rear deck? Ive done it that way to several different cars, just so it doesnt interfere with the trunk mechanism. Late 80s and early 90s Lesabres and Park Avenues have nice undermount boxes if you have a junkyard near.
never considered that but good info to know, thanks.

I dunno, i like being able to see the speakers in the rear deck haha

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Only thing about that is you lose trunk space. In my coupe that's important.


In my Coupe, I eventually want to box in the rear speakers from the trunk and fit 6.5" subs in the rear deck.

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breadbox wrote:Only thing about that is you lose trunk space. In my coupe that's important.


In my Coupe, I eventually want to box in the rear speakers from the trunk and fit 6.5" subs in the rear deck.

sounds cool, im going to start measuring and try to build a custom box for 2 10's...I have 2 12" but Im not sure I want them in my 240...extremely loud.

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ive always been into the audio aspect of cars too....your setup looks awesome :bigthumb: cant wait to see the finished product

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mn011890 wrote:ive always been into the audio aspect of cars too....your setup looks awesome :bigthumb: cant wait to see the finished product
Thanks, yeh i've always been into audio too.

I have some nice kenwood 12's but I thought they were too loud in my Aviator so I couldnt imagine them in the 240. So far just have some pioneer 6.5" that i have to re mount in the doors with the brackets I got off ebay and eclipse 6x9's. But first im going to stuff the doors with pillow stuffing and put some peel and stick on it as well. Hate rattling.

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I have a couple 6x9's sitting around I could try to under mount soon.

I have a nice, responsive jlw6 10" but the box doesn't fit in the trunk, so it's destined for the hatch(fits prefect).

I just bought a cheap but decent alpine unit from Broadfield with a front aux out and run everything of my media player and a pair off hybrid audio 6.5" and adapters and now I need to fix the rattles in the passenger door or roll the window up a bit. :cool:

I have a surround sound sub that I added baffles to try to tune it but it about the same unless you are in front of the port then you can tell a difference or you can feel it a little more with certain low frequencies. Its just wired as a rear left speaker, but doesn't take up much room so its got a nice long wire to throw it anywhere in the car.

When I have a budget for it, I want to get 2xJL Audio 6W3v3-8 W3v3 Series 6.5" 8-Ohm Subwoofers and a amp with good cooling to power them and like I said mount boxes to enclose them from the bottom. I think Toby said like 1cubic foot per box. Hopefully it wont hang tooo low.

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i had a buddy put hsi 6x9's in a hatch. He used that interior hatch cover thingy (the flimsy thingy that covers the trunk space. for the life of me i dont know what thats called......) anyways. he got some plywood and some fabric and custom made the hatch cover thingy with the speakers. it was tight. looked very clean and it still operated like a normal hatch cover thingy too

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nice update! looks awesome!

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lamonsterscorner wrote:i had a buddy put hsi 6x9's in a hatch. He used that interior hatch cover thingy (the flimsy thingy that covers the trunk space. for the life of me i dont know what thats called......) anyways. he got some plywood and some fabric and custom made the hatch cover thingy with the speakers. it was tight. looked very clean and it still operated like a normal hatch cover thingy too
Privacy cover!!

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costa_rican13 wrote:
lamonsterscorner wrote:i had a buddy put hsi 6x9's in a hatch. He used that interior hatch cover thingy (the flimsy thingy that covers the trunk space. for the life of me i dont know what thats called......) anyways. he got some plywood and some fabric and custom made the hatch cover thingy with the speakers. it was tight. looked very clean and it still operated like a normal hatch cover thingy too
Privacy cover!!

Thanks ~logs in brain for the rest of hatch owning life :cool: ~

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test fitted the piece earlier...a little too long, about 1/8" on each side so gonna have to figure that out tomorrow.


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