Trump

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:40 pm

There ya go. He needs to be talked about. I'm surprised he hasn't become more of a topic for discussion.

Like him or not, I don't, people who are dismissive of him and the nerve he is touching with a lot of people are not paying attention. Right or wrong, a certain segment of the electorate is energized by this guy and they are not easily swayed. Much like there was a large group of people who fell in behind Obama simply because he kept saying "hope" and "change" and couldn't be swayed from that initial feeling, Trump has galvanized a solid and growing base of people who similarly will blame "them." Ironically, his base is the "them" from the last round of BS emotionally-driven politics. Blowback perhaps? Whatever the reason, it looks like he's the one to beat in the GOP field and while I don't like that that is the case I do enjoy watching all the party power brokers have to eat their words and wring their hands in fear as he continues to grow his base. It's Huff Post so it should be "truth" to Howie.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 2286d51ffa

Could he beat Hillary? Yes, I think so. Hillary is a terrible person and her closet skeletons are legion. A shrewd Trump campaign could capitalize on that if they could keep their candidate from doing what he does, be who HE is. Who is he? A spoiled brat who had everything handed to him, likes to bully and talk down to people and is only in this to serve his own herculean ego. In that respect, ironically, he's sort of "presidential" after a fashion.

Most people vote emotionally and Trump engenders a strong emotional response. Against a shrill Washington insider who even some of her supporters regard as a necessary albeit bitter pill to swallow, he has an advantage in this respect. People don't "love" Hillary, they "like" her at best. People "love" Trump or they "hate" him. If he can keep from saying what he actually thinks when he thinks it he could beat her in the general by mobilizing these emotional votes just like Obama did. Can he keep from saying dumb s***? Absolutely not; it's who he is and he would have to realize that's not always the best play, but that would require some self-examination and the hair alone is clear indication that he doesn't question himself and his opinions so hold on!

Either way, we're f***.

Post by **szh** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:58 am

themadscientist wrote:There ya go. He needs to be talked about. I'm surprised he hasn't become more of a topic for discussion.

Here is how I would suggest we start dealing with him - joke about his antics:

themadscientist wrote:Either way, we're f***ed.

Yeah.

Z

Post by **Bubba1** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:23 am

It'll be interesting to see what happens if Michael Bloomberg enters race. He said he's considering it if Trump and Bernie end up as the main party nominees.

Post by **Rogue One** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:29 am

Bubba1 wrote:It'll be interesting to see what happens if Michael Bloomberg enters race. He said he's considering it if Trump and Bernie end up as the main party nominees.

Just what the presidential race needs, another billionaire that can't decide which side he's on. Hes been a registered Democrat, but ran as a Republican in 2001 to become New York’s mayor. Reelected in 2005, he left the GOP and in 2009 won a third term as an independent. From Slate.com: Bloomberg’s conditions for entering the fray are simple: If Republicans nominate Sen. Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, or if Democrats are on the verge of choosing Sen. Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton, he enters the race. If not—if Hillary Clinton or an “establishment” Republican win their respective primaries—he stays out. “If Hillary wins the nomination, Hillary is mainstream enough that Mike would have no chance, and Mike’s not going to go on a suicide mission,” explained former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell.

He's not a supporter of the Second Amendment, and even dislikes large servings of sugary sodas. As mayor, Bloomberg said: “If we can find a bunch of billionaires around the world to move [to the city], that would be a godsend, because that’s where the revenue comes to take care of everybody else.”

In a recent poll by Reuters, Bloomberg would likely get only 9 percent against the front-runners, with Clinton at 37 percent and Trump not far behind with 31 percent.

Post by **Bubba1** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:34 am

I wouldn't put a whole lotta stock in those national polls as not many people outside the northeast know much about him beyond blurbs in the news. As far as not deciding which party he's on being a bad thing, one can also view it as a good thing being an independent thinker and not a political party hack. As a 3 term mayor of NYC, I suspect his legacy will be mixed, some good, some ugly. But he would still make an interesting candidate, with fewer skeletons in the closet than Hillary, and not as divisive and overtly narcissistic as Trump. I'm certainly not endorsing him, but it will be interesting if he enters the race.

Post by **telcoman** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:11 pm

I'm in full agreement with the editorial board of The New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opini ... egion&_r=0

Trump is a loser

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opini ... pe=article

Telcoman

Post by **telcoman** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:31 am

Telcoman

Post by **themadscientist** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:46 am

Still too early to discount the toupe that spoke. This one is more certain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb ... 5877f71e23

6th, Jeb, frigging 6th place. Was George the smart one?

Post by **szh** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:59 pm

Sore whiner loser: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /79748926/

Z

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:05 am

I'll miss the sweater vests.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... ntial-bid/

Punk. Your dad had more balls than you, kid.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... tial-race/

Hold on, now; this is a big one. Who is going to play bass in this band? More importantly, who will get the coveted Chuck Norris vote?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rel ... for-grabs/

Strangely, Jim Gilmore remains undeterred. Who could blame him with 12% of the, what? 12 delegates, right? Wait, he got twelve people? Twelve votes? Like carton of eggs 12, case of beer 12? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12, 12?

Holy s***, that's insane. But HE is still in the race? Has he been told? Wow.

http://national.suntimes.com/national-w ... 2016-race/

Take it away Stephen!

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:48 pm

Really, Bush, did you just get your mommy to fight your battles for you? That's pathetic.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... lsignoutlc

You want to be the leader of the free world and you can't handle a loudmouth egomaniac without help from your mommy? I'd back her candidacy before yours; she has more spine than you. You are definitely the weak one, At least your little brother had some balls. Slap dat a**? Mission accomplished!

Post by **telcoman** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:40 pm

Trump the exaggerator

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ ... ar-BBoLrVt

How he f#cked up a deal

Telcoman

Post by **themadscientist** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:38 am

Alright, Bernie took New Hampshire, now Trump does too. The game is afoot. Way to b**** up too, Rubio. First you get beat down by that fat thug Christie, then a fat gay guy.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... oset/?_r=0

Trump, continue to be hyperbolic, please.

Post by **telcoman** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:41 am

Feel the Bern

Post by **themadscientist** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:01 am

Just think. If he wins the nomination, Bloomberg might jump in. Imagine that three way deathmatch of kooky.

Post by **telcoman** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:55 am

Another republican loser that will not be marching to the white house in 2016

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... on_article

kind of reminds me back in the 1960's when the anti Viet Nam war movement began on college campuses

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... id=SL5CDHP

The next generation is beginning to gather steam

Telcoman

Post by **Rogue One** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:27 am

The next generation may indeed be gathering steam, but it's not on the Democratic side. GOP shatters its turnout record; Democrats lag behind

Meanwhile we're treated to Hillary Clinton’s slow-motion implosion. Senator Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton among nearly every demographic group in the Democratic New Hampshire primary, according to exit polls. Mrs. Clinton won the support of voters 65 and older. And, though Mrs. Clinton lost nearly every income group, she did carry voters in families earning over $200,000 per year.

Numerous Sanders supporters flatly stated that they would under no circumstances back Clinton, citing the criticisms of her that Sanders brings up on the stump every day. Ashley Bays of Quincy, Massachusetts, who came to New Hampshire to volunteer for Sanders, said she would “absolutely not” back Clinton, ever.

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:26 pm

Oh, cmon, Jim; don't give up yet. You were on track to crest the 100 vote mark!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... ailsignout

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:33 am

Oh boy. So South Carolina went for Trump. Jeb finally gave in to the reality of his fail and gave up.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/20/politics/ ... ighlights/

s***'s getting real. Jeb's supporters are going to need a new horse to back and Trump is not their kind of guy. Being quote on quote "mainstream" you guys are sort of screwed. None of these people really make the GOP powerbrokers happy. That makes me happy, but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. None of you SOBs are any friend of mine.

Post by **szh** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:03 pm

Uneffingly unbelievable!

Now he is directly inciting religious war: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/us/po ... rakat.html

Z

Post by **telcoman** » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:24 pm

An Open Letter to My Friends Who Support Donald Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-ni ... 93694.html

Telcoman

Post by **Rogue One** » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:23 pm

The Huffington Post was launched on May 10, 2005 as an overtly liberal/left commentary outlet and alternative to news aggregators such as the Drudge Report. The HuffPuff is nothing more than a very expensive blog. It's not a news organization, at least not in the traditional sense. Some articles on the website are little more than random blog contributions that have not been fact checked at all. Last year MSNBC sharply criticized the Huffington Post for its continued refusal to cover Donald Trump as a serious presidential candidate. I'd compare the HuffPuff to an online version of the National Enquirer.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am baffled by the false claims that he's racist. Securing the border is not racist. A temporary ban on the admission of Muslims isn't racist, as it's a religion, not a race.

Post by **Bubba1** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:21 am

I wouldn't characterize him necessarily as a classic rascist, but he is a classic narcissist. If you read up on the symptoms of narcissism, you won't be surprised by most of the controversial things he says.

Post by **telcoman** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:49 am

Rogue One wrote:The Huffington Post was launched on May 10, 2005 as an overtly liberal/left commentary outlet and alternative to news aggregators such as the Drudge Report. The HuffPuff is nothing more than a very expensive blog. It's not a news organization, at least not in the traditional sense. Some articles on the website are little more than random blog contributions that have not been fact checked at all. Last year MSNBC sharply criticized the Huffington Post for its continued refusal to cover Donald Trump as a serious presidential candidate. I'd compare the HuffPuff to an online version of the National Enquirer.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am baffled by the false claims that he's racist. Securing the border is not racist. A temporary ban on the admission of Muslims isn't racist, as it's a religion, not a race.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

"It has been more than a quarter century since Trump took out ads in New York newspapers calling for the death penalty for “criminals of every age” after five black and Latino teens were implicated in the Central Park jogger case. The young men, convicted and imprisoned, were later cleared by DNA evidence and the confession of a serial rapist – and Trump called their wrongful-conviction settlement a “disgrace.”

"Since then, Trump led the “birther” movement challenging President Obama’s standing as a natural-born American; used various vulgar expressions to refer to women; spoke of Mexico sending rapists and other criminals across the border; called for rounding up and deporting 11 million illegal immigrants; had high-profile spats with prominent Latino journalists and news outlets; mocked Asian accents; let stand a charge made in his presence that Obama is a Muslim and that Muslims are a “problem” in America; embraced the notion of forcing Muslims to register in a database; falsely claimed thousands of Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attacks in New Jersey; tweeted bogus statistics asserting that most killings of whites are done by blacks; approved of the roughing up of a black demonstrator at one of his events; and publicly mocked the movements of New York Times (and former Washington Post) journalist Serge Kovaleski, who has a chronic condition limiting mobility."

rac·ist
[ˈrāsəst]
NOUN

a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another:
"the comments have led to her being called a racist"
synonyms: racial bigot · racialist · xenophobe · chauvinist · [more]

ADJECTIVE

showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another:
"we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

Seems Trump fits the description and qualifies as a racist to me.

Telcoman

Post by **szh** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:58 pm

Rogue One wrote:I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am baffled by the false claims that he's racist. Securing the border is not racist. A temporary ban on the admission of Muslims isn't racist, as it's a religion, not a race.

Maybe the term "bigot" would be more accurate.

Z

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:40 pm

Trump is merely blowback from several factors, the Obama administration and the way in which it cam to be and the way it treated a certain segment of the electorate and the Republican party and the way it has treated the same. Keep telling people they don't matter and suppressing what they want and they will eventually push back.

The same dumbass, ill-considered, if considered at all, knee-jerk, emotional, middle finger to the people "we" don't like at any and all cost motivations that thrust a did not a damned thing senator to the presidency based on race baiting, catch phrases and the fact that he was not someone else is what is driving the Trump campaign; it's just the other end of the spectrum. Much like that stupid cult of personality bore fruit for Barry, so shall it bear fruit for Trump.

Watching people trying to pretend they can stop an angry mob by playing politics as usual didn't work for the Republicans two election cycles now, yet they continue to try this go around. Einstein had a saying for that behavior. Now, the anger at the GOP power broker's BS has caused this revolt and they better realize the guillotine is already being set up. Trump is the man to beat in the Republican race.

The gOP will begin trying the dirty tricks they used to cheat and marginalize Ron Paul out last cycle, but Trump supporters are not Paul supporters for the most part. Where Paul Supporters tried to engage on policies and ideas and work within a jobbed system stacked against them, Trump supporters will burn this mother down. I must admit, I'm enjoying it. The GOP did it to themselves and the inevitable fracturing of the party will be a good thing. Centrists in the party who were already uncomfortable with the big business oligarchy kowtow, the obsession with women's uteri and controlling them and the warlike rhetoric of leaders with no skin in the game are tough to drive away; they don't act rashly. You must push them forcefully from the party. The mouthbreather torch-lighting element that is propelling Trump may be that final last straw.

There are people in the Democrat party, who, similarly, are terrified of Sanders and the whack job liberals that have hijacked their party. They sip at the idea of Hillary Clinton like a bitter tea because it's the only thing available that doesn't seem like deadly poison on its very face. They also will leave their party only if they have no choice. I think they need a few more disappointments than the others before doing so, but a Sander's candidacy and the stoking of the socialist fire might begin the movement to the center. When they meet the angry former Republicans I think they will find people that share a genuine desire to make our country great again, really, not in slogan form. They many vary on their opinions, but share the hope of a fair, honest, hardworking and fruit of work enjoying future where the government is put back it its place as a servant of the people, not special interests and itself.

Not every Democrat is Howard. Not every Republican is Bill Oreilly, but those two scream really loud so it's eaasy to think they represent the rank and file people in their respective parties.

Watch the show everyone.

Post by **Bubba1** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:07 am

Unsurprising that Chris Christie has just endorsed Trump. It appears he's angling to be Trump's VEEP nomination, a cabinet post, or perhaps, the unlimited buffet at the Taj Mahal.

Post by **Rogue One** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:58 am

telcoman wrote:Seems Trump fits the description and qualifies as a racist to me.

Telcoman

While being an alleged racist/bigot is morally reprehensible, it's not illegal. Should it be taken into consideration when deciding on whom should be the leader of the free world? No more so than the motives of the wife of an alleged rapist that shielded him, whilst blaming a “vast right wing conspiracy.”

As the saying goes, "actions speak louder than words".

Post by **telcoman** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:15 am

Trump becoming a clusterfvck for the republicans

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/po ... pe=article

"While still hopeful that Mr. Rubio might prevail, Mr. McConnell has begun preparing senators for the prospect of a Trump nomination, assuring them that, if it threatened to harm them in the general election, they could run negative ads about Mr. Trump to create space between him and Republican senators seeking re-election. Mr. McConnell has raised the possibility of treating Mr. Trump’s loss as a given and describing a Republican Senate to voters as a necessary check on a President Hillary Clinton, according to senators at the lunches."

So much fun watching that half a$$ed party implode

Will Trump be holding the White House door open for Hillary to enter on Jan 20th 2017?

Telcoman

Post by **Rogue One** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:06 pm

MSNBC Host Falls Apart After Discovering Black Trump Supporter

MSNBC host Tamron Hall found herself scrambling to downplay the number of black Donald Trump supporters after one such supporter rebuked her attempt to link the Trump campaign with white supremacists.

Hall was discussing the ongoing presidential race with Mother Jones editor David Corn when the discussion turned to former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke’s recent positive remarks about Trump and Trump’s alleged failure to adequately denounce Duke.

“Now you have reports saying, listen, what about his supporters, what are we learning about his supporters, the new people truly that he is, to his point, bringing into the fold?” Hall asked. Just then, Hall noted an MSNBC reporter had obtained footage of Trump backers at a Monday rally, and cut away to view said footage.

But if Hall was expecting more evidence that Trump’s campaign is built upon white supremacy, she was in for a nasty surprise. Instead, the video showcased Frank Vick, a black man who denounced the recent Duke furor as media-driven nonsense.

“David Duke and people like that, they come out from under the rocks all the time around this time of year. It’s got nothing to do with Donald Trump,” Vick said. “I think we need to stop with all the racist stuff and all the race-baiting … Nobody [is] paying David Duke no mind.”

Hall’s shock was evident following Vick’s remarks and she scrambled to downplay any support Trump has among black Americans.

“Um, clearly, let me just be clear,” Hall said. “Obviously the majority of Donald Trump’s supporters are not African American. I don’t know how many African Americans were in that, that building, but that is one, uh, person that, uh, we have chosen to cut that sound from, uh, David.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/29/video ... z41cXSxYtp

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