Trump creating jobs as promised!

Plaque and Statue removers needed.

Must be willing to travel.

No education required.

http://abc7ny.com/society/nyc-church-re ... e/2313530/

Brooklyn church removes 2 plaques honoring Robert E. Lee

"FORT HAMILTON, Brooklyn --
Leaders of a New York Episcopal diocese removed two plaques honoring Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a church property in Brooklyn on Wednesday.

The plaques were removed by the Episcopal Diocese of Long Island, which owns the property.

The larger of the two plaques was placed outside St. John's Episcopal Church by the United Daughters of the Confederacy in 1912. It commemorated the spot where Lee is said to have planted a tree while serving in the Army at Fort Hamilton in New York in the 1840s, two decades before he became commander of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia.

The plaque marked a tree that was a descendant of the one Lee is believed to have planted. A second plaque made note of that. Workers used power tools to remove them Wednesday.

The Richmond, Virginia-based United Daughters of the Confederacy did not respond to calls and emails seeking comment about the removal of the Brooklyn plaques.

Their removal comes in the wake of last weekend's deadly white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white supremacists protested plans to remove a Lee statue from a public park.

The Brooklyn church closed in 2015 and is being sold.

The plaques there weren't the only reminder of the Confederacy in Brooklyn. Lee and his fellow Confederal Gen. Stonewall Jackson also are honored with streets named after them at Fort Hamilton, which remains an active Army base.

Several Democratic members of Congress from New York City have called on the Army to change the names of Stonewall Jackson Drive and General Lee Avenue.

The roads run through the base and aren't readily accessible by the general public."

Trump is creating jobs

Telcoman

http://ktla.com/2017/08/15/hollywood-fo ... m-threats/

All this stuff has really gotten out of hand. Here in SoCal there is a section in a cemetery with the graves of 30 Confederate veterans. A plaque there, erected in 1925 by the Confederate Monument Association, simply says "In memory of the soldiers of Confederate States Army who have died or may die on the Pacific Coast". It doesn't call them heroes. It doesn't celebrate the Confederacy. It only acknowledges that they were in that army.

It was removed today after hundreds of "activists" requested its removal and threatened vandalism.

Ridiculous.

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:41 pm

http://ktla.com/2017/08/15/hollywood-fo ... m-threats/

All this stuff has really gotten out of hand. Here in SoCal there is a section in a cemetery with the graves of 30 Confederate veterans. A plaque there, erected in 1925 by the Confederate Monument Association, simply says "In memory of the soldiers of Confederate States Army who have died or may die on the Pacific Coast". It doesn't call them heroes. It doesn't celebrate the Confederacy. It only acknowledges that they were in that army.

It was removed today after hundreds of "activists" requested its removal and threatened vandalism.

Ridiculous.

Agreed. This should probably be in a new thread.

Asked by Charlie Rose “should they take down the Jefferson Memorial?” Al Sharpton reflected on the nature of slavery then answered a different question: whether the federal government should support the memorial. Sharpton said it should not. “When you look at the fact that public monuments are supported by public funds you’re asking me to subsidize the insult of my family. I would repeat that the public should not be paying to uphold somebody who has had that kind of background. You have private museums, you have other things that you may want to do there.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/45 ... n-memorial

Seth Meyers Goes All In With Brutal Takedown Of ‘Lying, Racist’ Donald Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000063


Telcoman

https://www.facebook.com/NBCNews/videos ... 600805427/


Telcoman

Lehigh University is facing mounting pressure to revoke President Donald Trump's honorary degree after he equated neo-Nazi protesters with anti-racism ones in a Tuesday press conference.

The honorary degree was awarded in 1988 when Trump was the commencement speaker. Once Trump became a presidential candidate, the campus community began debating if he deserved to keep that honor.

On Tuesday, recent Lehigh grad Kelly McCoy launched a Change.org petition calling on Lehigh President John D. Simon to rescind Trump's degree because "our current values as a university stand against everything Donald Trump represents."

Lehigh has made major strides in making the campus more inclusive and diverse in recent years and McCoy doesn't want to see that progress rolled back.

"I think there is more we can do as a university," said McCoy, who lives in Easton. "I think this would also be a symbolic gesture of Lehigh's commitment to these diversity principles."

McCoy hit her goal of 7,500 signatures less than 24 hours after launching the petition and she's determined to get Lehigh to take action.

Lehigh has revoked an honorary degree before. It joined other universities in rescinding comedian Bill Cosby's degree after details of a 2005 deposition were made public. Lehigh said the conduct described was antithetical to its values.

The power to do so lies solely with the Board of Trustees, which confers degrees and is the only body that can rescind them."

Telcoman

Unfortunately stories like this aren't the complete story. Out of those 7,500 signatures there might only be one or two that are actually Lehigh students or alumni. The others have no relationship with the university. They are probably just anti-Trump people who don't even know that Lehigh is a university or, if they do, what state it is in.

To be perfectly honest, what Lehigh does with a worthless honorary degree conferred about 30 years ago is none of our business and should only be relevant to people who have past, present or future dealings directly with Lehigh. A Change.org petition is not the correct course of action and this petition is definitely not worthy of being mainstream news.

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:56 am

Unfortunately stories like this aren't the complete story. Out of those 7,500 signatures there might only be one or two that are actually Lehigh students or alumni. The others have no relationship with the university. They are probably just anti-Trump people who don't even know that Lehigh is a university or, if they do, what state it is in.

To be perfectly honest, what Lehigh does with a worthless honorary degree conferred about 30 years ago is none of our business and should only be relevant to people who have past, present or future dealings directly with Lehigh. A Change.org petition is not the correct course of action and this petition is definitely not worthy of being mainstream news.

I'm a Lehigh alum and I had no idea Shmuck L'Orange got an honorary degree there. That's both amusing and sad. It happened several years after I graduated. I'm surprised Lehigh approached him because back then I thought they had better taste in their commencement speaker choices (LOL). That said, if they have that many signatures now, it obviously includes non-students as there are only about 5,000 undergrad students there.

by Bubba1 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:40 pm
Shmuck L'Orange

Another Trump Lie!

General Pershing on How to Stop Islamic Terrorists
U.S. General John J. Pershing did not effectively discourage Muslim terrorists in the Philippines by killing them and burying and their bodies along with those of pigs.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

Telcoman

Another Trump Lie!

On 23 Jun 2017 Trump tweeted:
"I've helped pass and signed 38 Legislative Bills, mostly with no Democratic support, and gotten rid of massive amounts of regulations. Nice!"

A White House spokesperson confirmed to NPR that at the time of Trump's tweet, the number was actually 39 — not 38.

From NPR: Among modern Oval Office occupants, Presidents Jimmy Carter (52), George H.W. Bush (41) and Bill Clinton (41) had all signed more bills into law than Trump has by this point in their presidencies.

So NPR is unimpressed with Trump because he signed TWO FEWER bills than George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton? Quick! Someone alert Maxine Waters as I'm sure this will be the definitive reason to impeach Trump! The POTUS hasn't sign enough bills, impeach Trump NOW!

I think this provides Trump's detractors with a quandary, should they criticize the low number of bills signed, or laud him for limiting the (alleged) damage he could do had he signed more bills?

A Nazi salute, KKK hoods and Trump: Magazine covers after Charlottesville are jarring

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...DB6?li=BBnb7Kz

Those that marched in Charlottesville last Friday evening carrying torches reminiscent of the Nazi marches in Nuremberg Germany in the nineteen thirties chanting anti-semitic slogans were not good people that Trump asserts in his false rhetoric in speeches and tweets.
We have a president that lied and falsely claimed that our first black president was not born in the United States.
We have a president that lied and falsely claimed that our first black president was a Muslim.
We have a president that falsely claimed that Obama wired tapped his telephones.
Shame on those in elected office that failed to publicly call him out on all those lies.
We have a president that refuses to use the term domestic terrorism against the KKK, David Duke, and others that subscribe to Nazi propaganda.
Many of those that were opposed to President Obama were nothing more than closet White Nationalists and Nazi sympathizers who are now making themselves known.

Germany outlawed the Nazi Party and perhaps its time to put these anarchists, White Supremacists, and others marching in these rallies behind bars before they destroy our country as the German Nazi's did many years ago.

Now its time to remove all statues,flags, and monuments commemorating anything related to offering praise of the civil war.

Maryland removes Dred Scott ruling author's statue

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maryla ... li=BBnb7Kz

Telcoman

America's Chauvinist-in-Chief The True Face of Donald Trump

U.S. President Donald Trump is a racist and a hate preacher. It's time to stop trivializing the immense damage he is causing.
© DER SPIEGEL

A DER SPIEGEL Editorial by Klaus Brinkbäumer

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1163466.html

"Ninety years ago, in the New York borough of Queens, around 1,000 members of the Klu Klux Klan clashed with police. Fred Trump was among those arrested. His case never reached trial because times were different back then. But Fred Trump raised his son Donald to believe that he belonged to a white elite. When asked about the ugly KKK episode in 2015, the presidential candidate answered, "This never happened. This is nonsense and it never happened. This never happened. Never took place. He was never arrested, never convicted, never even charged. It's a completely false, ridiculous story." Does this mean that something can only be true if it winds up in court?

In 1973, Donald Trump was sued because he preferred renting his 14,000 New York apartments to white tenants rather than blacks. It was documented and proven. Applications were marked with a "C" for "colored" and sorted out. Black people were rejected and white people were given the apartments only minutes later. During the 1980s, casino operator Trump considered black employees to be lazier than whites. He said he feared blacks would steal from him. In April 1989, when white investment banker Trisha Meili was raped in Central Park and beaten until she fell into a coma, four blacks and a Latino were arrested. "Bring back the death penalty!" read the full-page newspaper ads Trump took out in response. A court convicted the men, who were innocent, and they were only released from prison years later."

Bannon the racist in the Trump white house is going, going, gone!

Telcoman

Trump Tells Aides He Has Decided to Remove Stephen Bannon

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/p ... -news&_r=0

"the loss of Mr. Bannon, the right-wing nationalist who helped propel some of Mr. Trump’s campaign promises into policy reality, raises the potential for the president to face criticism from the conservative news media base that supported him over the past year."

Telcoman

The Week When President Trump Resigned

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/o...l-right-region

"As the worst week in a cursed presidency wound down, I spotted more and more forecasts that Donald Trump would resign, including from Tony Schwartz, who wrote “The Art of the Deal” for Trump and presumably understands his tortured psyche.

They struck me not as wishful or fantastical.

They struck me as late.

Trump resigned the presidency already — if we regard the job as one of moral stewardship, if we assume that an iota of civic concern must joust with self-regard, if we expect a president’s interest in legislation to rise above vacuous theatrics, if we consider a certain baseline of diplomatic etiquette to be part of the equation.

By those measures, it’s arguable that Trump’s presidency never really began. By those measures, it’s indisputable that his presidency ended in the lobby of Trump Tower on Tuesday afternoon, when he chose — yes, chose — to litigate rather than lead, to attend to his wounded pride instead of his wounded nation and to debate the supposed fine points of white supremacy.

He abdicated his responsibilities so thoroughly and recklessly that it amounted to a letter of resignation. Then he whored for his Virginia winery on the way out the door.

Trump knew full well what he should have done, because he’d done it — grudgingly and badly — only a day earlier. But it left him feeling countermanded, corrected, submissive and weak, and those emotions just won’t do for an ego as needy and skin as thin as his. So he put id before country and lashed out, in a manner so patently wrong and transcendently ruinous that TV news shows had to go begging for Republican lawmakers to defend or even try to explain what he’d said.

Those lawmakers wanted no part of him. The same went for the corporate chieftains he considers his peers. And for the generals he genuinely reveres. The heads of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines all went out of their way to issue statements condemning the hatred that Trump wouldn’t take on. A soft coup against a cuckoo: It confirmed how impotent Trump had become.

On Tuesday he “relinquished what presidents from Roosevelt to Reagan have regarded as a cardinal duty of their job: set a moral course to unify the nation,” wrote The Times’s Mark Landler, in what was correctly labeled a news analysis and not an opinion column. Landler’s assessment, echoed by countless others, was as unassailable as it was haunting, and it was prompted in part by Trump’s perverse response to a question that it’s hard to imagine another president being asked: Did he place the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Va., on the same “moral plane” as those who showed up to push back at them?

“I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane,” Trump answered.

Indeed he wasn’t. And if you can’t put anybody on a moral plane, you can’t put yourself on Air Force One.

On Friday Trump finally dismissed his polarizing chief strategist, Steve Bannon. That’s excellent. And irrelevant. A president’s team doesn’t matter when he himself is this lost.

In The Atlantic, under the headline “Donald Trump Is a Lame-Duck President,” David Graham wrote: “For most presidents, that comes in the last few months of a term. For Trump, it appears to have arrived early, just a few months into his term. The president did always brag that he was a fast learner.”

In Axios, Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei noted that the president had “systematically damaged or destroyed his relationship with — well, almost every group or individual essential to success.” They then listed these “methodically alienated” constituencies: “the public,” “CEOs,” “the intelligence community,” “every Democrat who could help him do a deal,” “world leaders,” “Europe,” “his own staff.”

In The Times, Michael Shear, Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush reported that several of his top advisers couldn’t see how his presidency would recover. “Others expressed doubts about his capacity to do the job,” they added.

Striking a similar note, Tennessee Senator Bob Corker, who has not been among Trump’s frequent Republican critics, told reporters, “The president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate.”

This is a question of more than competence. It’s a question of basic interest, and when I look back through the lens of the present wreckage at all that’s happened since Trump descended that escalator in Trump Tower in June 2015, I see clearly that he never in fact wanted or set out to be president, not as the position is conventionally or correctly defined.

He revealed that repeatedly as he rejected the traditional rules and usual etiquette, refusing to release his tax returns, bragging about his pen15 size, feuding with the Muslim father of a fallen American soldier and electing puerility over poetry at nearly every meaningful moment.

Because of his victories in the Republican primary and then the general election, his campaign was hailed for its tactical genius. But it was driven by, and tailored to, his emotional cravings. All that time on Twitter wasn’t principally about a direct connection to voters. It was a way to stare at an odometer of approval and monitor, in real time, how broadly his sentiments were being liked and shared.

Applause. Greater brand exposure. A new layer of perks atop an existence already lavish with them. Utter saturation of Americans’ consciousness. These were his foremost goals. Governing wasn’t, and that was obvious in his haziness and dishonesty before Election Day and in his laziness and defiance after.

He made clear that conflicts of interest didn’t trouble him, drawing constant attention to Trump properties and incessantly pointing out that nothing in the law of the land compelled him to divest his business interests.

He opened the White House door wide to unmoored and unserious people, most recently Anthony Scaramucci, who, during his nanosecond as communications director, disparaged Bannon as someone engaged primarily in a limber act of self-gratification. That was on the record. Then Bannon disparaged his administration adversaries as being so threatened by him that they were “wetting themselves.” That was on the record, too.

A president is supposed to fill important posts. Trump dallied. A president is supposed to be involved in lawmaking, but members of Congress who met with Trump about the repeal-and-replace of Obamacare were aghast at his ignorance of the legislation and of the legislative process itself.

A president is supposed to safeguard the most sacred American institutions, repairing them if need be. Trump doesn’t respect them. He has sought to discredit and disempower the judiciary, the free press, the F.B.I., the Congressional Budget Office. He even managed to inject politics into, and pollute, the Boy Scouts. This is the course of a tyrant.

I haven’t mentioned Russia. How astonishing that it can be left out and there’s still a surfeit to rue.

Trump hasn’t been exercising the duties of his office. He’s been excising them, one by one. The moral forfeiture of the past week was the capper.

And as I watched the Bushes and the generals and Trump’s former rivals for the Republican presidential nomination step into the public square to enunciate their own principles about murderous bigots and domestic terrorists, I realized that they weren’t going through any typical this-is-what-makes-us-Americans motions. They weren’t preening.

They were, in the words of The Washington Post’s James Hohmann, “filling the void.” If Trump wasn’t going to do his job, others had to.

I kept coming across variations on the verdict that he had “failed to lead,” and that phraseology is off. “Fail” and “failure” imply that there was an effort, albeit unsuccessful.

Trump made none. He consciously decided that he didn’t care about comforting or inspiring those Americans — a majority of them — who weren’t quick and generous enough with their clapping. He was more interested in justifying himself.

So he picked division over unity, war over peace. And make no mistake: He didn’t merely shortchange the presidency. He left it vacant."

It is hard to imagine that Hillary would have given our country the mess that Trump has in such a short time?

Telcoman

OK, we get it. You hate Trump. Your diatribes are long winded, repetitive, and not worth reading. It's like something out of the National Inquirer. I will say you've come dangerously close to slander about him and other public figures. Stick to facts and ditch the hyperbole and histrionics.

I agree with Rogue. Too much cr@p to read. Please just summarize, Howie. Rogue: funny you should mention the National Enquirer. It's publisher, whose last name is "Pecker" (I kid you not), is a close friend of Hair Trump. In fact Mr.Trump has cited the Enquirer a few times as sources including the nonsense about Ted Cruz's father's alleged involvement in JFK's murder. Seems amusing that Birther Boy complains so much about fake news.

I quit reading the vast majority of the junk telco cuts and pastes a long time ago. Unless the reference is from one of the least biased sources on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ I know it's probably not worth looking at. The same applies to the right leaning references some others post here. For the most part that junk is only there only to incite the base. They always use highly partisan reporting techniques and many are not factual.

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:46 pm

I quit reading the vast majority of the junk telco cuts and pastes a long time ago. Unless the reference is from one of the least biased sources on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ I know it's probably not worth looking at. The same applies to the right leaning references some others post here. For the most part that junk is only there only to incite the base. They always use highly partisan reporting techniques and many are not factual.

https://www.ft.com/

US Politics & Policy
Trump’s grim reaper Steve Bannon makes his exit

Chief strategist is out but his instincts remain entrenched in the Oval Office






Plenty of video tape backing up the racists marching in Charlottesville shouting anti semitic rhetoric and Trump refers to them as fine people.

Telcoman

A SurveyMonkey poll conducted Thursday found a combined 49 percent of American adults believe that both groups of protesters were “most responsible for the violence in Charlottesville.”

The poll found that 46 percent believe far-right groups were most responsible, 40 percent pointed the finger at both groups, and 9 percent believe counter-protesters were the most guilty.

Reports: Man Behind 'Unite The Right' Was Occupy Wall Street Member, Obama Supporter

From CNN: Trump calls KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists 'repugnant'

From WaPo: White House: Trump’s condemnation includes ‘white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi and all extremist groups’

From Western Journalism: Black Clergy, Activists Defend Trump, Castigate ‘Alt-Left’

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:46 pm

.....and many are not factual.

White Nationalists deny the facts, however many news sources are pointing out there are some good people in this country willing to stand up for what is right.

Too bad you don't follow those.

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/20 ... ary-segre/

Civil Rights Marker Honors Challenge to Library Segregation

Some plaques will stay and others promoting racism will be torn down.

Bye Bye Mr Lee!

Duke University removes statue of Confederate general

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/duke-u ... li=BBnbfcL



Telcoman

Maybe Duke should leave the pedestal empty. At its base they could place a plaque engraved with the words, "This statue is politically correct."

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:24 am

Maybe Duke should leave the pedestal empty. At its base they could place a plaque engraved with the words, "This statue is politically correct."

Here's an idea:

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And then there is this:

"Exclusive: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 529075001/

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:51 am

And then there is this:

"Exclusive: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 529075001/

Trump has made America his personal atm, lol
Maybe it's time to put a spending limit on any presidents personal travel expenses, especially if they are going towards his own pocket.

srellim234 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:51 am

And then there is this:

"Exclusive: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 529075001/

MSN - Secret Service: Trump's Not Our Only Problem

The U.S. Secret Service is facing money problems — but that's not President Donald Trump's fault, the agency's director said Monday in response to a report that the First Family was straining protective resources.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex" Alles said funding for roughly 1,100 agents working overtime in 2017 is not an issue "that can be attributed to the current Administration's protection requirements alone, but rather has been an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."

The problem has been there but it has been made worse in a major way by this President's using his office to profit his resort properties every weekend. He needs to stay put in the White House and work for a change (if he even knows what work is).

Another Trump lie debunked.

Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping
By Max Greenwood - 09/02/17 01:47 PM EDT

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... 1504374823

"The FBI and Department of Justice have now sided with former Director Comey and confirmed in writing that President Trump lied when he tweeted that former President Obama ‘wiretapped’ him at Trump Tower," Austin Evers, America Oversight's executive director, said in a statement."

Telcoman