true life: i have a ca

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yeahpancake
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so i thought i'd share my car and its eventual progress over the next few months. can't say im the biggest fan of the ca, but it'll do till i can drop an sr in.

the beginning:

and the now:

getting the car track ready for the 18th. got some 17x9.5 spares for the rears, bought an srt4 intercooler. friends donated arc toe arms, megan rucas, s14 rear swaybar, and an hks adjustable actuator.

i need some better coilovers, but it's still drivable so who cares. ill update it as the time comes

the past:

im sure no one really cares, but it's the internet.


bentvalves
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yeahpancake wrote:can't say im the biggest fan of the ca, but it'll do till i can drop an sr in
did you really just say that about the CA in the CA forum?

drop your SR in already maaan, its like, the oonly way to be.

yeahpancake
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ks13 wrote:
did you really just say that about the CA in the CA forum?

drop your SR in already maaan, its like, the oonly way to be.
i love bandwagons


Jintei
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Nice car man! You don't live that far from me, either..

Are you with the HK crew by any chance? And what is on the dash!? And lmk if you decide to sell the CA

-Michael

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Jintei wrote:Nice car man! You don't live that far from me, either..

Are you with the HK crew by any chance? And what is on the dash!? And lmk if you decide to sell the CA

-Michael
you by chance no anything about that disassembled CA being sold on florida drift? I was debating picking it up.....

PS I dont understand the swapping form a CA to an SR, but w/e floats your boat I suppose. 3k spend on the SR can go a hell of a long way in the CA.... even 1.5k if you pick up one off a local forum goes along way.

yeahpancake
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ca18detgabby wrote:
you by chance no anything about that disassembled CA being sold on florida drift? I was debating picking it up.....

PS I dont understand the swapping form a CA to an SR, but w/e floats your boat I suppose. 3k spend on the SR can go a hell of a long way in the CA.... even 1.5k if you pick up one off a local forum goes along way.
just a question, but why would i spend 3k on an sr? with an $1800 sr, fmic, boost controller, and rom tune i can push 260-280hp and 290-300tq.

i mean, the ca is pretty beast at .8 bar. i just like sr's because they make easy power for cheap. to each his/her own.

oh and the dash is covered by brown bear shag. i thought it was pretty classy

yeahpancake
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Jintei wrote:Nice car man! You don't live that far from me, either..

Are you with the HK crew by any chance? And what is on the dash!? And lmk if you decide to sell the CA

-Michael
thanks man. i actually live in new tampa now, but i go out to cocoa every now and then for the beach. ill let you know when i eventually get rid of the beast motor

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yourmomsrps13
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If /when you swap to SR enjoy the rocker arm problems if you go into high horse power range. what makes a SR make HP easier then a CA. i know CAs rev better though.

PS who from DA gave the S14 the wreath?

yeahpancake
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yourmomsrps13 wrote:If /when you swap to SR enjoy the rocker arm problems if you go into high horse power range. what makes a SR make HP easier then a CA. i know CAs rev better though.

PS who from DA gave the S14 the wreath?
i'll enjoy them, thanks. they make easy cheap power because parts are cheaper for sr20's. i mean, show me a ca18det with a t25g and fmic that is making 280hp/300tq to the wheels and ill retract my statements.

im not putting down the ca in any way. i would rather have an sr with a cheap and reliable 280hp. some people like drag racing, some people like drifting. some people like ca's, some people like sr's. why not just leave it at that instead of telling me how dissapointed i will be once i drop an sr20 in my engine bay?

wreath was put on the car when amir had it by tony angelo

Jintei
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Gabby, you mean "exitsine" right?

I know he's had that motor for a while. I was actually thinking of going to take a look at it. It never hurts to have a backup motor!


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Sr, ca, meh whatever. Do what makes you happy man.

Coupe looks clean, and that fc was real sexy.

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I want to see an SR make 280 horse power with a t25g.

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lol ^ me to

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yeahpancake wrote:
just a question, but why would i spend 3k on an sr? with an $1800 sr, fmic, boost controller, and rom tune i can push 260-280hp and 290-300tq.

i mean, the ca is pretty beast at .8 bar. i just like sr's because they make easy power for cheap. to each his/her own.

oh and the dash is covered by brown bear shag. i thought it was pretty classy
I was talking the initial cost of the the SR(2.5-3k ish for a decent motor and trans)....... motor set costs alone vs the same invested in the already running CA seems odd to me for an aluminum bottom end and .2Ls..... specially when you could bore out the CA and run a good set of pistons to achive the the same amount.

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Jintei wrote:Gabby, you mean "exitsine" right?

I know he's had that motor for a while. I was actually thinking of going to take a look at it. It never hurts to have a backup motor!
yeah that piner guy said he had a parts motor laying around too...... I was going to buy his a while back, just never got around to doing it.

O well with all these people throwing them by the way side I have been enjoying it......

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yeahpancake wrote:
i'll enjoy them, thanks. they make easy cheap power because parts are cheaper for sr20's. i mean, show me a ca18det with a t25g and fmic that is making 280hp/300tq to the wheels and ill retract my statements.

im not putting down the ca in any way. i would rather have an sr with a cheap and reliable 280hp. some people like drag racing, some people like drifting. some people like ca's, some people like sr's. why not just leave it at that instead of telling me how dissapointed i will be once i drop an sr20 in my engine bay?

wreath was put on the car when amir had it by tony angelo
you'll enjoy the problems??? ha ok anyways I had to break into tony's house once but only because he asked me to. The cars pictured are decent. i think your really just getting bashed because you tittled a post based off a cheesy MTV show, but hey what did you expect.

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The boring out a CA to a very close displacement of an SR (1998cc) will need 160 though oversize pistons (or 4.0mm) this will give you 1987cc. Tomei used to have a stroker kit to combat this issue, which the crank was based on the CA20 crank, unfortunately I think this is now a discontinued item.

AFAIK, you can only buy off the shelf 40 thou (1mm) oversize pistons which will take the displacement to 1853cc. You can always have custom pistons made up, however the issue is you will risk cracking the cylinder walls boring out this far (you can get away with thinner walls if you grout fill the water jackets around each 1/2 way)

I have toyed with the idea of using RB26 pistons (87mm bore) in a CA build, I even went as far as measuring it all up, but I was forced into another rebuild (original engineer did not finish bores correctly) and had to use the block from my experimental motor.


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progman wrote:I want to see an SR make 280 horse power with a t25g.
2 friends I know get only with their SR setup with a t28 from a s15 in the 26x rwhp range on the dyno. In no way you gonna get to 280hp with the oem t25g turbo.

yeahpancake
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lol ill get the dyno sheets from XAT racing. no offense, but maybe your friends need new tuners. if XAT didn't just recently close down, i'd suggest martin.

blacktop s13 sr20detgodspeed fmichks intaket25g14psiwalbrostock cast iron manifold3in elbow and 3in downpipe to 3in fence pipe exhaustrom tune

the car has been making 280hp/300tq for about a good 2 years now AND the car is STILL running rich.

277hp/296tq to be exact. i dont want you guys to ***** and call me a liar when you see the dyno.

please dont try to prove me wrong, because i see the car every single day.

yeahpancake
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yourmomsrps13 wrote:you'll enjoy the problems??? ha ok anyways I had to break into tony's house once but only because he asked me to. The cars pictured are decent. i think your really just getting bashed because you tittled a post based off a cheesy MTV show, but hey what did you expect.
it was sarcasm because ive owned 3 sr's and ive never had a problem with any single one of them. one had 230, the next had 250, and the last one had 280. i dont need more power than that.

you guys take everything about life way too seriously.

oh and here's a picture of the 277hp s13 on a t25g on the left


yeahpancake
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meminto wrote:The boring out a CA to a very close displacement of an SR (1998cc) will need 160 though oversize pistons (or 4.0mm) this will give you 1987cc. Tomei used to have a stroker kit to combat this issue, which the crank was based on the CA20 crank, unfortunately I think this is now a discontinued item.

AFAIK, you can only buy off the shelf 40 thou (1mm) oversize pistons which will take the displacement to 1853cc. You can always have custom pistons made up, however the issue is you will risk cracking the cylinder walls boring out this far (you can get away with thinner walls if you grout fill the water jackets around each 1/2 way)

I have toyed with the idea of using RB26 pistons (87mm bore) in a CA build, I even went as far as measuring it all up, but I was forced into another rebuild (original engineer did not finish bores correctly) and had to use the block from my experimental motor.
exactly my point. i would rather spend the time that you guys spend on boring out your ca's and everything on seat time instead...because seat time is more fun than trying to squeeze more power out of a CA.

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nvrplzd240 wrote:Sr, ca, meh whatever. Do what makes you happy man.

Coupe looks clean, and that fc was real sexy.
thanks dude

yeahpancake
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ca18detgabby wrote:
I was talking the initial cost of the the SR(2.5-3k ish for a decent motor and trans)....... motor set costs alone vs the same invested in the already running CA seems odd to me for an aluminum bottom end and .2Ls..... specially when you could bore out the CA and run a good set of pistons to achive the the same amount.
there's something that everyone in this thread besides a select few people just dont understand.

i did not start this thread to bash on CA's. i posted up my CA coupe and stated my plans for it.

i dont care if you guys think the CA is almighty. it's just a motor. a motor that i would personally not choose if i had the option of getting an sr20det. but that's exactly the thing.

it's .my.personal.preference.

the car's quick with a CA. 180hp quick.


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yeahpancake wrote:
exactly my point. i would rather spend the time that you guys spend on boring out your ca's and everything on seat time instead...because seat time is more fun than trying to squeeze more power out of a CA.
I agree with you that extracting power from an sr is a little easier than a CA, but the conversion alone will be around the same amount of "seat" time as freshening up your CA... especially if you plan to open up the SR prior to conversion.

Personally I wouldn't trust a secondhand motor, too much risk for me... Out of curiosity, was there a reason to purchase it with the CA rather than the SR?

Not having a dig, just confused by the logic...


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post a graph showing 280whp 290 ft/lbs of tq from an sr20det with a t25g, and I still wont believe that it made that power.

dont get to flustered man, you dogged on our god of a motor.....and CA owners tend to get attatched perhaps.

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meminto wrote:
I agree with you that extracting power from an sr is a little easier than a CA, but the conversion alone will be around the same amount of "seat" time as freshening up your CA... especially if you plan to open up the SR prior to conversion.

Personally I wouldn't trust a secondhand motor, too much risk for me... Out of curiosity, was there a reason to purchase it with the CA rather than the SR?

Not having a dig, just confused by the logic...
i actually traded my rx7 with a blown motor for my CA coupe.


yeahpancake
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ks13 wrote:post a graph showing 280whp 290 ft/lbs of tq from an sr20det with a t25g, and I still wont believe that it made that power.

dont get to flustered man, you dogged on our god of a motor.....and CA owners tend to get attatched perhaps.

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ks13 wrote:post a graph showing 280whp 290 ft/lbs of tq from an sr20det with a t25g, and I still wont believe that it made that power.

dont get to flustered man, you dogged on our god of a motor.....and CA owners tend to get attatched perhaps.
I know that Aceinhole on FA and Zilvia put down 300 hp on his KA-T a few years ago with an SRT25g.....so 300 is possible on that turbo...but.....not on an SR unless its stroked or something.

-m

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look lets not open that can of worms.

2.4 vs 2.0 lets just drop iiit.


yeahpancake
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mbmbmb23 wrote:
I know that Aceinhole on FA and Zilvia put down 300 hp on his KA-T a few years ago with an SRT25g.....so 300 is possible on that turbo...but.....not on an SR unless its stroked or something.

-m
yes, it is possible. please call xat racing up and ask about aussie steve's s13. ignorance is bliss.


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