True HID conversion?

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

greetings fellow 240sx members...

just curious, does anybody have a HID conversion kit installed on their 240? i have seen em selling for a pretty decent price, much cheaper then what they used to go for...suprastore.com has em...just lookin to get some more information...im lookin to get that whitish/purple look like beamers and mercedes....thanks

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

message me

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

What is HID?

Post by **specialkonrd** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

high intensity discharge headlights

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

Are the full kits better than just the bulbs?

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

defintely...

take a look

http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/crx_mod.htm

nevermind its not workin...

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

Whoever said you MUST have projector headlamps for HID if full of ****

YOU DONT!

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

no one said that in this post, also, the more i read about em, the more i learn, and im learning that some of these kits are b.s., they are not like the actual bulbs from bmw's etc...they are more like the hyper white/xenon bulb replacements...ill post back later...

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

I know no one said it here, but people ALOT of them say you must have projector headlights, pffft.

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

oh haha, my fault...it looks like to get the real hid effect like bmw's and such, you actually have to "retrofit" the kit...not 2 mention customize your headlights for the *reflector* ...doesnt look easy, but can be done...

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

i have HID kit for my 96 240sx. The HID bulb is custom-modified to fit H4 housing. It doesn't have to be projector light. I will soon do the conversion to kouki light and will put the HID bulbs on ebay.

The color and the brightness of the light is the same as those of Acura TL's. Bluish white and BRight!It's about 2-3 times brighter than the halogen. They're so much brighter than those cheap blue bulbs.

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

Oh and btw, to get those purplish looks like BMW's and S2000's, u do need projector light lens... regular H4 lens housing just won't produce that purplish reflects...The price for the kit (including balast, wiring, and bulbs) is around $370-$450 depends on what brands...

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

are those kits the real deal? i read that the 8000 k is line of bs...http://www.suprastore.com has em...i am weary about these kits...checkout this website....http://www.intellexual.net...he explains everything...

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

are those kits the real deal? i read that the 8000k is a line of b.s.sorry for the double post....

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

That looks legit. It's safe to say that no one would sell crappy **** for $455... especially if you're selling to Supra owners.

8000k is just color temperature. 8000k is very blue I'd say. I'm sure the bulb musta been colored blue to get to 8000k. Lexus HID lights are like 4300k.. just pure white with no hint of blue-ness... and bright as hell.

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

I agree with the tutorial from http://www.intellexual.net/8000k is just too blue... i heard Lexus LX450 SUV got 8000k.

i got 7000k bulbs... its brightness and color is exactly the same as those of Acura's TLs. (lil bit more brighter cuz mine is just halogen housing)

Infinitis BMWs Lexus all got whiter color... Mercedes varies among models... ranging 4000-6000k i think.

Color temperture is ur choice. I'm sure the HID will be hell alot brighter than any halogen bulbs. Just make sure you focus the lights down a little bit more. Otherwise, you'll get glare when it rains (and you're following a car on the freeway) or it's foggy.

Post by **Freakmech** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

$#@* that, get BMW halo kits and retro fit for a unique look, color bulbs are ricer

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

What about the all-round kits that autoimaging used to have? Were they HID or just sealed beam? What happened to those anyway...

Post by **skydragoness** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

ok, if your'e going to go with an HID kit, i would only go with name-brands, like Sylvania or Philips (there's McCullogh too, and i don't know if Hella makes a kit, but i wouldn't be surprised)

anyhow, my bf got a Sylvania Kit for his 5th gen Prelude a month ago, he cracked one or both of the bulbs unknowingly during installation so he wasn't getting the full effect, one side was brighter than the other, or it wasn't putting out. The site that he got the kit from was cool and offered to take it back and give him a new set of bulbs. It's been a few weeks now, he should be getting them back soon.

when he first put them in and showed me i was impressed, it was rated for 8oook and it seemed to be brighter compared/driving alongside to the cheaper HID found in Acura's,Nissans,etc (the latest technology being on the more expensive cars of course, now the Maxima can offer the low-end HID on their cars as an option)

oh and to add to whomever said before, projectors do make a difference if you want to get that purple reflection. Hence, the cars you see purple/rainbow reflective HID are on cars that have projector headlights, i.e. the s2000, BMW's, some Audi's

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

alright...to get that real hid look u have to get a bmw projector or any car that has them stock...bmw are quite popular if u want to retrofit it, so thats what i did, i bought projectors from a bmw...im going to use philips d2s bulbs and ballasts...the projectors will be the only hard part...getting them to fit in there, the two are different sizes..

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

"real hid look?"That purplish projector look can be achieved with just regular halogen bulbs.I personally think that the HID looks better behind a projector lens though. It's just prettier...

But all in all, there are many real HIDs equipped vehicles (10 times the price of your car) out there, without, what you claimed, "real hid look."

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

you DONT need projector headlights to achive purpulish/bluish look.I know that for a fact, its all bull**** ... to achive either purpulish or bluish look all you need is HID kit and normal headlight.

Post by **UncleBen** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

i think HID would be sweet to have, if only it wasn't so expensive. hey s14gt, did you install your HID kit? i've heard it hard to do.

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

you do need to have projector lights..reason being, they have reflectors inside of the actual projector...look at bmw's and mercedes vehicles..all of their lights are projectors with philips or osram bulbs...if you buy an HID kit, your getting the bulbs and ballasts only, not the projectors....it doesnt come close to a true HID setup...like a beamer etc..

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

TommyyJ wrote:you do need to have projector lights..reason being, they have reflectors inside of the actual projector...look at bmw's and mercedes vehicles..all of their lights are projectors with philips or osram bulbs...if you buy an HID kit, your getting the bulbs and ballasts only, not the projectors....it doesnt come close to a true HID setup...like a beamer etc..

Look at Acura TL/CL/RL, Infiniti .. NONE have projectors ALL have HID's purpulish/bluish look.

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

s14sr20det, you don't know what you're talking about.The Purplish/bluish look that you are talking IS NOT what we are talking about.We're talking about purplish reflects/glares that projector lights give out. NOT the COLOR of the light emitted. Only projector lens produces such reflects... just like a prism. I can't wait 'till I get S14 kouki headlights...

95silviase, yes, I installed it myself, took me about 30-50 minutes. It's not that hard... if you know how to replace light bulbs, you can hook up the wiring for HID kit. Very much a plug and play (no cutting wires).... only hard part was trying to squeeze in the balast behind the headlight housing.... it's very tight in there to fit..... But, it's all worth the money and time I spent in the end.

Look at your neighbor's Acura TL at night... how it strikes up the light when it's ignited.. how it lights up the road.... mine looks exactly the same.

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

TommyyJ, what you are saying is wrong.

You only need HID kit for true HID look.

You should really say "true HID-behind-a-projector-lens look" because Infiniti, Lexus all got "true HID" without projector housing.

Post by **s14sr20det** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

s14gt you think you know everything dont you ?? well you dont.Anyways, when I put my S14 side by side with my dads M5 at night, I dont see ANY diffrence between the lights, its bright, gives that purpulish/bluish look, look tight.

Post by **s14gt** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

s14sr20det, oh how pretentious thou art.I never claimed I know everything. I just corrected you. Don't get so upset.

If you got s14 kouki lights, you're right. They both got projector beam pattern.

Post by **TommyyJ** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:58 am

s14

how do infinity and lexus achieve that then w/o the projector housings? is it somethin to do with the actual head light housings? i am glad that i am wrong...i really am tryin to learn as much as i can about this...but i was under the impression that oe style projectors are needed to complete the HID look...

also, what did you do to get your lights to look just like the acuras...and such?

True HID conversion?

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