Trouble with RB20 fitting

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

Sup guys, been trying to get my RB20 in my 89 240 for the past...30 minutes or so and it seems like it wont go any further in then it is right now, i got pics to show and tell me wut ur thoughts are on it and any solutions. Ive tried tilting it backwards..jiggling it..lots of stuff. Thanx in advance

Post by **ibzbro** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

are you using the r32 crossmember? you have to tilt the eninge pretty far back.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

im just fitting the engine in, not putting in trans yet. having problems uploading the pics

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

OK WHAT ARE YOU USING TO MOUNT IT (STOCK X-MEMBER AND MOUNTS, MCKINNEYS, ETC.)? WHATS STUCK?

MY RECOMMENDATION (IF USING STOCK X-MEMBER AND MOUNTS):JACK THE CAR AS HIGH AS IT CAN GOREMOVE THE T/C ROD SUPPORT BRAKETSDROP THE ORIGINAL CROSSMEMBERSLIDE THE RB20 (W/ R32 X-MEMBER AND 240SX RACK ATTACHED) UNDER THE CAR INTO THE ENGINE BAYSLOWLY LOWER THE CAR ONTOP OF THE X-MEMBER AND JUST SLIGHTLY TO GET THE BOLT HOLES TO LINE UPLIFT THE ENGINE ASSEMBLY INTO PLACE AND BOLT INTO PLACE

THATS EXACTLY HOW WE DID IT.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

YOUR GOING TO WANT TO PUT THE ENGINE AND TRANS IN TOGETHER OR ELSE YOU GOING TO BE KICKING YOURSELF.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

i just wanted to do a test fit, but i guess ima go with wut project said.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

pics..

Today ima keep on trying to do it from above and tomorrow ill try and do it from below. Im just trying to see if its possible for me to do it from above

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

PROJECTRB240SX wrote:OK WHAT ARE YOU USING TO MOUNT IT (STOCK X-MEMBER AND MOUNTS, MCKINNEYS, ETC.)? WHATS STUCK?

MY RECOMMENDATION (IF USING STOCK X-MEMBER AND MOUNTS):JACK THE CAR AS HIGH AS IT CAN GOREMOVE THE T/C ROD SUPPORT BRAKETSDROP THE ORIGINAL CROSSMEMBERSLIDE THE RB20 (W/ R32 X-MEMBER AND 240SX RACK ATTACHED) UNDER THE CAR INTO THE ENGINE BAYSLOWLY LOWER THE CAR ONTOP OF THE X-MEMBER AND JUST SLIGHTLY TO GET THE BOLT HOLES TO LINE UPLIFT THE ENGINE ASSEMBLY INTO PLACE AND BOLT INTO PLACE

THATS EXACTLY HOW WE DID IT.

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I 100% agree with going from the bottom. I will never go from the top again (only did it once... and seporated the trans and motor). It was a nightmare. When I removed it I took it out of the bottom, and when we installed it in Hybridone's car it was from the bottom... with the trans on the motor.

Post by **dareo** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

From the bottom with R32 crossmember and transmission mounts attached? Or is it the 240sx transmission mount plate that is used?

With a precision slide, a good hoist, and a few bolts and your swap is in. There's still a lot of hosing and wiring crap to do. i hate hoses the most. 14 year old hoses piss me off.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

I've heard you can use the stock trans mount with some form of spacer... I am personally going to make my own braket, but you could also use McKinney's or UH's mounts.

As far as installing it with the x-member attached and trans mount on... yes you will want to have them on the motor and trans.

Trans mount from the 32 and the 240 should be fairly similar if not identical if I remember correctly.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

Yea ive tested out the trans placement, fits good. Still having problems with fitting the engine though. The engine is touching the firewall and the oil pan is pretty much in place, mounts are STILL 4 inches off. Im thinking im ganna have to buy sum custom mounts kus with the stock 240 mounts it isnt ganna work..or at least thats wut i can see.

Post by **McAdam** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

ah, man! you need to get the R32 mounts! If you bought a RB20DET front clip, take the front crossmember out of the clip, it'll be a simple bolt in from there. Trust me, it took me 4 days of 6 hour days from removing the KA to test running the RB powered car. I put the motor/transmission in from the top. Just get a good engine crane and load leveler.

McAdam

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

McAdam wrote:ah, man! you need to get the R32 mounts! If you bought a RB20DET front clip, take the front crossmember out of the clip, it'll be a simple bolt in from there. Trust me, it took me 4 days of 6 hour days from removing the KA to test running the RB powered car. I put the motor/transmission in from the top. Just get a good engine crane and load leveler.

McAdam

Thx for the info McAdam, thing is i junked the Front clip not to long ago and i cant remember if i took off the mounts and front X-member from it. Is there anyway i can do the swap w/o those parts??

Post by **FAST-DATSUN** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

if you using our mount kit there should have been full detailed instruction on doing the the swap. We do it from the top with motor and trans together to save time..

Post by **FAST-DATSUN** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

if you using our kit mount there should have been full detailed instruction on doing the the swap. We do it from the top with motor and trans together to save time..

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

It depends on what you still have... you don't have the rubber mounts (isolators) or you don't have the brackets that mount to the motor?

If you don't have the isolators... there is a Nissan truck mount that works with a little griding on the bottom (has a lip that gets in the way). I picked them up at advanced auto parts for $30 each. I got them b/c the ones that came on my clip were sheared in half.

Ok... just went out to the garage b/c I kept the box. The Pioneer Inc part number is 602866, and I got these at either advanced auto parts... I am 98% sure.

Hope this helps.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

o0k RBsil, i checked my pile of Rb stuff and dont have the mounts at all. Ok remember that my mounts are off by 4 inches, if i get these mounts will they match up properly? the engine CANNOT move any further back..its impossible (unless i cut the firewall)Thanks for the help bro

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

OK... lets kind of restart here. I am kind of lost on what we are working with.

What do you have? Are you using the R32 x-member? You do have the parts that bolt to the motor itself or you don't?

It's cool man... anytime.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

Haha 0k, i got a 89 240 And trying to swap a RB20 in there. Got stock 240 engine mounts in currently. I know ima sound like a total Dumbass, but wut exactly is the crossmember? From my understanding its wut keeps the Trans in place. The engine is fully complete and i do have the part that actually bolts to the mounts.

Post by **McAdam** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

The front crossmember is the thing that the eninge mounts are welded to. It is also the thing that your steering rack is bolted to, as well as the lower control arm thingys on your suspension. It is held to your car by 4 big *** bolts, 2 on each side. The R32 X member has the engine mounts in the location you need them in, which is about 6 inches forward of the sstock KA mounts.

McAdam

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

McAdam wrote:The front crossmember is the thing that the eninge mounts are welded to. It is also the thing that your steering rack is bolted to, as well as the lower control arm thingys on your suspension. It is held to your car by 4 big *** bolts, 2 on each side. The R32 X member has the engine mounts in the location you need them in, which is about 6 inches forward of the sstock KA mounts.

McAdam

...Because of a lil misunderstanding ive gone threw all this stress and sh*t lol. Thanks adam..It all makes sense to me now, BTW do u happen to know or can ya get me the R32 X member?;)

Post by **McAdam** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

sorry man! When I did the swap we had the clip and we stripped it bare. You could try and call an engine importer and see if they have any spares laying around, or your other option is to buy a mount kit.

http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/sale.php

they sell a kit, but its like A$550 or something.

If you can go to the scrap yard that you took your front clup to, I am sure tehy wouldn't want much for you to pull the front crossmember out!

good luck

McAdam

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

McAdam wrote:sorry man! When I did the swap we had the clip and we stripped it bare. You could try and call an engine importer and see if they have any spares laying around, or your other option is to buy a mount kit.

http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/sale.php

they sell a kit, but its like A$550 or something.

If you can go to the scrap yard that you took your front clup to, I am sure tehy wouldn't want much for you to pull the front crossmember out!

good luck

McAdam

Damn 0ok, im not really willing to pay 500 bucks for mounts. And sadly the junk yard all ready trashed my clip.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

Keep in contact with me. My motor should be ready to be shipped in the next two weeks from overseas... I might be able to get you a X-member if you are interested.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MOUNT YOUR ENGINE? ARE YOU GOING MCKINNEY OR STMS? BECAUSE IF NOT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

Post by **-HyJynX-** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

rbsileighty wrote:Keep in contact with me. My motor should be ready to be shipped in the next two weeks from overseas... I might be able to get you a X-member if you are interested.

Sounds good, ill keep in touch w/ u VIA E-mail all right?

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

Sounds good bud.

Post by **hashiriya13** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:02 am

If you can contact Mckinney's I think they posted recently they have some r32 cross members. They dont use them so they would most likely sell them. But I think they are in Vegas for Sema or what ever show is there this week.

Trouble with RB20 fitting

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