TripleTred vs. HydroEdge

[PoorManQ45]

I'm looking for new tires for our '03 Pt Cruiser. 195/65 15

I'm looking at the Goodyear Tripletred and the Michelin HydroEdge.

They both have excellent dry AND wet ratings, the latter is very important in FL. The Goodyear seems to edge out the Michelin in every category.

I'm looking for a little personal input on these tires.

They're a little high in price, but a few of the reviews have reported that they're close to the 80/90k mile warranty! If I can get that many miles out of these tires I'd be more then happy with paying the higher price.

If you have any other recommendations please chime in. I'd be willing to go to a wider tire.

Thanks for the input

[skydragoness]

Bridgestone Potenza RE950, turned my squirrelly non-lsd S13 into a very confidence-inspiring vehicle in the rain. Phenomenal dry traction too. If the alignment and tire psi is kept up to par the tires lasts a long time. Have mine on still, since Fall 2003, backroads, autocrossing, etc. The rears are just now starting to lose their tread, mostly because of poor toe in the rear, but otherwise still safe in the rain.

[Q-less]

Check out the Falken series:

"The new Falken Ziex ZE512 maximizes the all-season performance with a uni-directional tread design and large circumferential grooves for superior wet weather handling. This tire offers a smooth, quiet and comfortable ride along with an improved rim protection ridge to protect your custom rims. Performance never looked so good.

Rated #1 by a leading consumer magazine"

[Q-less]

http://www.1010tires.com/TireR....html

"I had Pirelli P6 (stock), Bridgestone RE950, Dunlop SP5000 on my car before and the Falken ZE512 is the best so far. The 512 provides better grip in the wet than SP5000. The dry grip is about the same on these two tires. The P6 sucks and I highly recommend you guys not getting it because it has no grip in dry and wet. One tire even had a bubble after 2000km. RE950 is ok expect the tire noise is annoying. SP5000 is a class higher in quality than the RE950 in every different field."

[Q-less]

Brand: Falken Ziex-512 Size: 255/50ZR16Good: Sticky, quiet, GREAT wet-weather handling. Possibly the BEST tire I’ve owned for the money. Nice beefy sidewall, and the rim protector is thick and functional.Bad: Some boominess over expansion joints, possibly due to me running 42 psi rather than 35 recommended.

[Nismo_Freak]

I see advertising has done it's part.

[Exar-Kun]

Hydro edge. It has None of the noise probles or heavy spot issues that the goodyear does.-Chet

[PoorManQ45]

I see advertising has done it's part.

I understand where you're coming from as both tires are heavily advertised, but that's not what brought me to these two tires.

Notice the Dry AND Wet traction ratings? The Dry rating is higher then alot of Summer tires. And the Wet is very high also.

From reading the reviews though it seems that tirerack *may* be receiving money for pushing these two tires.

Anyways, what would you recommend.

I remember that you recommend the Yoko tires to me, but for The PT Cruiser I need something with EXCELLENT wet traction as it rains alot here.

[skydragoness]

Agh! Have you checked out the RE950's ratings on TireRack? Very high in the wet traction and hydroplaning category. However, as someone else noted, they are not 'quiet' tires, but imo that's a trade-off for the great traction it gets. Its hard to believe its an all-season sometimes.

[Exar-Kun]

ok, serously.

He's askin for a long-lasting, good rain tire, for a daily driver/commuter car. Considering a PT cruiser suspension isn't exactly build to 'handle' and utilise a higher grip compound tire, why are people reccomending UHP tires?

For cripes sake: Get the hydroedge, it's a pehnominally long lasting, durable tire that'll work great in the rain, with perfectly capable dry traction for a touring tire.

Also, for the thread starter: DUDE. a "9" on a toruing tire isn't crap compared toa "9" on a summer UHP..those ratings are completely arbitrary, and you ahve to think about both the constumer and other tires they're being rated with/against. that's like saying an all-star college player is the same level of prowess on a field as a junior high kid...come on!

If you're looking for a long lasting touring tire for a commuter car, buy the Michelin.

-Chet

[skydragoness]

My RE950's against your Hydroedge tires.... TO THE DEATH!!

[Exar-Kun]

HAH!

Your RE950's versus my KD's woman :p

-Chet

[Nismo_Freak]

HAH!

Your RE950's versus my KD's woman :p

-Chet

Your KD's to my R3S04's on a dry track.

[PoorManQ45]

Ok, what do you guys think of the Fuzion HRi?

I'm looking specifically at the size 225/60 HR15 which is slightly taller then OEM, but also over an inch wider, AND has a much higher load rating.

Thanks for all the input thus far

[Exar-Kun]

meh..its an OK tire. I';d run a 205-60-15 if iw as going to go "plus zero" keeping your OD and such stock would be a good idea....honestly witha PT cruiser, dry grip/slalom handling with it as a DD wouldn't seem to be a priority...

also, Alan, cheif, captain..we were refering to street tires there buddy.

I'll be running the new BFG R-1 soon enough, then we'll run the R-compounds if you like

-Chet

[PoorManQ45]

Something that was brought to my attention.

How much of an increase in air/rolling resistance would there be in running a 1inch wider tire, and would the decrease in MPG be greater then the increase in MPG caused by the 0.6inch increase in diameter?

[silencer.1]

You said you wanted good WET traction right? Why go with a wider tire then? The contact patch is going to get wider laterally and smaller longitudinally. You won't like that in the rain because it will be more apt to hydroplane. Stay with the stock size on the PT Cruiser, you'll be happier in the long run.

[Exar-Kun]

total contact patch will remain the same, so theorhetically, the fuel mileage will be a fucntion of tread design, compound and weight.

also what the "air/rolling resistance"...air pressure is controlled by you, ya goober.

-Chet

[PoorManQ45]

You said you wanted good WET traction right? Why go with a wider tire then? The contact patch is going to get wider laterally and smaller longitudinally. You won't like that in the rain because it will be more apt to hydroplane. Stay with the stock size on the PT Cruiser, you'll be happier in the long run.

Explain please

total contact patch will remain the same, so theorhetically, the fuel mileage will be a fucntion of tread design, compound and weight.

-Chet

Ah, didn't even consider tread design