TRC off - still cannot do a standing burnout in the rain

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hk20000
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Just a test of power for my car I have the 1996 Q45t and I tried to do a smokey burnout in the rain but it seems to be impossible.

Culprit seems to be the TRC system where even when the light is saying "TRC OFF" it is limiting the engine power output once the slippage starts...

for example, just a simple neutral drop from a high RPM, once the gear lever is in D the engine spins up the rear wheel for under a second and then as you bury the foot down on the throttle the rear wheels seem to slow down to a halt...

I can do a rolling peel out off the line from a dig at the light but it seems that once the actual wheel speed and the moving speed differs a lot the TRC cuts out my throttle and output and brings the whole show to a halt....even when the TRC off button is pressed beforehand.

How does the logic work :gotme Later in the year the car will need to go into smog test where the car will need to do a simulated dyno run - what if the car won't even drive on the rollers? :wtf2:


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Something is obviously very wrong with your traction control system if it is limiting even when turned off, but dont worry about fixing it, because if you keep doing those "high RPM neutral drops", your transmission will destroy itself in no time,and chances are it will cost more than the car is worth and what you can afford to fix it!

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Quit skipping class and going to the drive in to show off!

Continued transmission abuse will mean you are a short timer here.

If you have PSS, you probably can't spin them anyway. If it is important to you, then get a Mustang with hard skinny tires in the rear.
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hk20000
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Lol I am going to do a manual swap soon anyway if it is to blow so be it.

Its just something easily achieveable in a 92 toyota cressida or bmw 540I or even a lowly corolla its not cool that with 8 effing cylinders and most horsepower yet I can't do it lol. Plus burnout videos are everywhere on the internet for this car I don't know why one would freak out over it. Its a beater car that uses a lot of gas so its really not worth losing your sleep over lol.

I'm guessing the 96 throttle trc limits power or if the rear brake system kicks in regardless if the system is turned off when the speed difference is too large like a later car with ESP?

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Then why do you have a luxury car that was never made for "honda type jack-a**-ery" but if u must ruin a perfectly good auto trany try puting in 2nd feathering it a lil bit.

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I never did that with a honda, and I have many of those....torqueless wonder.

I will try throw it into 2 next time, but will it be locked into 2 instead of 1? Should I put it into 1??

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hk20000 wrote:
I'm guessing the 96 throttle trc limits power or if the rear brake system kicks in regardless if the system is turned off when the speed difference is too large like a later car with ESP?

Then you guessed wrong.....and need to spend some time with your nose in the factory service manual doing some reading,which will benefit you much more than attempting to burn rubber like a 17 year old pimply face boy with a shiny new to you 16 year old car.

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hk20000 wrote:Just a test of power for my car I have the 1996 Q45t and I tried to do a smokey burnout in the rain but it seems to be impossible.
You don't have a 1996 Q45 with HICAS AKA touring edition.
hk20000 wrote:Culprit seems to be the TRC system where even when the light is saying "TRC OFF" it is limiting the engine power output once the slippage starts...
You mean Traction Control System TCS? Even the publishers of the Factory/Field Service Manual (FSM) got it wrong (TSC).
hk20000 wrote:for example, just a simple neutral drop from a high RPM, once the gear lever is in D the engine spins up the rear wheel for under a second and then as you bury the foot down on the throttle the rear wheels seem to slow down to a halt...
Why do you abuse such a nice car? We were all young once but please learn from us that doing stupid stuff feels nice for a day but the damage done to the car is almost permanant.

Any maintence history?
hk20000 wrote:I can do a rolling peel out off the line from a dig at the light but it seems that once the actual wheel speed and the moving speed differs a lot the TRC cuts out my throttle and output and brings the whole show to a halt....even when the TRC off button is pressed beforehand.

How does the logic work :gotme Later in the year the car will need to go into smog test where the car will need to do a simulated dyno run - what if the car won't even drive on the rollers? :wtf2:
I think you have a fuel pressure related issue.

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Yep it will lock in 2nd butt u might not like it

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jbracy7 wrote:Yep it will lock in 2nd butt u might not like it
It won't lock into 2nd. 2nd on an auto transmission really means 2nd gear range. That means it has 1st and 2nd gear available to use as they are within that range. Basically, it will start with 1st and you will feel it shift once. From there, the transmission will be limited to a max of 2nd gear.

This, of course, all changes if we are talking about a pre-94 model year Q45, but, in this case, we are not.

As far as neutral dropping an auto from a high RPM, obviously this will destroy your transmission in short order. But, I couldn't care less about what you do with your car. And I'm aware you are planning to do a manual ultimately.

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I'm betting against the manual swap, for three primary reasons.

1) Expense
2) Patience
3) Lack of mechanical aptitude

Sounds more like the torque converter is shagged, which wouldn't surprise me.


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