Traded In M45

[SmoovC]

As stated, I traded in the 2006 M45 for a............

Are you ready?! A 2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 Sedan. 5.0 liter V8, 8 speed transmission, all options except R-spec.

Feel free to post questions / comments!

[antzrus]

Whoa-nice machine! Well, I guess you'll be looking for another forum.

Drive carefully-400+ horses=phew....

[wingFeather]

[zags]

So what are you initial impressions so re: the two?

Engine vs. Engine (and general performance)

and then of course luxury/creature comforts/interior appointments, while driving etc?

[donnieb83]

What did you get for trade it? Mileage on your M45 traded in at?

[cruzad3r]

how much did you get for your m45? also what's r spec for the genisis. i'm assuming the hyundai is cheaper, around 40k range?

[wingFeather]

i'm assuming the hyundai is cheaper

So much so that they were embarrassed to put the Hyundai name anywhere on the car.

[SmoovC]

antz: Thank you very much; it rips pretty good for how much I got on it, being a new car with 32 miles...

wingFeather: appreciate your input and opinion.

zags: engine vs. engine, the 429hp 5.0 GDI has it hands down over the 4.5L. Acceleration is downright explosive, and with the 8 speed transmission it just seems to pull and pull harder. No “sweet spot” or anywhere you can feel the power band, just power on demand. From the specs I read, it does the same in the quarter mile as a M56.

Feature for feature: very comparable. Excellent iPod interface, HD, XM, nav, AFS, LDWS, heated and cooled driver's; heated on the other 3 positions. Awesome 17 speaker 7.1 surround system that actually has some bass response. Very comparatively equipped. It is much quieter on the road than the M45, which was a common complaint, and always bothered me a bit.

donnib83: My Premium package 2006 M45 had 72,271 on it at time of trade. I got $17,500 for it.

cruzad3r: see above for trade in value. R-spec is a $1500 option that adds 19” wheels, stiffer springs and bigger sway bars. My MSRP is $46,590. Since it is a 2012, and 2013's are hitting the lot, there is huge incentives. With rebates and incentives, I netted down to $36,499 before trade. Combine that with 1.9% Hyundai financing, and you can see the numbers are pretty appealing.

wingFeather: it is badged on the trunk lid, wheels center caps, and steering wheel. I think it will be great fun to dust off pretenders such as yourself, and then let you get a glimpse of the badge on the trunk lid, because that is all you will see. LOL (yes, that comment was meant as humor.. and we all know the best humor is based on truth!)

To all: I absolutely LOVED the M45. The power, the amenities, the looks, the quality and feel of materials and construction. I looked for months for a low mile M45 or a used M56, to no avail. I never thought I would own a Hyundai (as do none of my friends and coworkers!), but the performance for the price and the incentives offered made it a deal that could not be beaten.

[07sportm35]

Congrats, sounds like great "bang/hp for the buck". They are making very good value cars these days. And if I remember correctly, great 100K factory warranties.

[Ilya]

i'm assuming the hyundai is cheaper

So much so that they were embarrassed to put the Hyundai name anywhere on the car.

That's the Aquus. The Genesis has all Hyundai logos.

[cruzad3r]

Thats nice, the 8spds = great MPG so that alone is better than the M

All new cars are great, it's the latter that separate the boys from men :-)

Congrats dude

[White-Rush]

congrats on the purchase. Very nice cars inside and out.

[m-licious]

are you happy with the handling? i cross-shopped the early Genesis and liked the amenities but the handling was a little camry-esque and the seats had no side-bolster to them. my neighbor has a beautiful genesis coupe that I've been admiring but the R spec looks pretty nice for sedans. and spectacular bang for the buck in this class.

[White-Rush]

are you happy with the handling? i cross-shopped the early Genesis and liked the amenities but the handling was a little camry-esque and the seats had no side-bolster to them. my neighbor has a beautiful genesis coupe that I've been admiring but the R spec looks pretty nice for sedans. and spectacular bang for the buck in this class.

I have driven two of them, and one was a quick sprint in the R-Spec. IMO the handling is not up-to-par with the Infiniti M's. They drive nice, but it's nothing that you'll want to toss around excitedly. Again, this is just my opinion.

[SmoovC]

07sportm35: Thanks so much; and yes you are correct in regards to the warranty. They come with 5 year/60,000 mile limited warranty, and 10/100,000 mile powertrain warranty.

IlyaKol: the model you are thinking of is the Equus.

cruzad3r: Thank you for the kind words. After about 150 miles, it is averaging 17.8 mpg.

White-Rush: Yes, they seem to be pretty solid, I guess time will tell on the long term quality.

m-licious: I would tend to agree; the handling is a little soft. My M45 had Tein H-Techs and KYBs, and it seemed more firmly planted in corners. I like the ride of the Genesis better on the open road, it does not tramline like the M45. I believe with lowering springs and 20s (both planned mods) the handling will be up to par with my old M45. And good luck with the sale on yours, what do you plan on buying next?

White-Rush: you can toss it around, you just use the throttle with ESC off.

[wingFeather]

Did they start putting Hyundai badges on them recently? Because every one I've seen (both coupe & sedan) are too ashamed to advertise that they're Hyundai.

Example:


Imitation Aston Martin badge, with "genesis" in the middle. All the ones around me are like this, so it's not owners customizing them. I have no respect for a car company that can't respect itself.

[SmoovC]

As you can figure out, you got the pic right from the aftermarket supplier's website for the badging; along with wheels caps, etc. A very popular mod for these cars. It says "Genesis", which is the model of the car, right? If you also took the time to look on Hyundai's website, you could clearly see the car does not come factory with that badging.

In either event, you can tell your buddies you got your a** handed to you by "Genesis" or a "Hyundai", it makes no difference to me; you have to tell the story!

[07sportm35]

The R-Spec is 5.3 seconds to 60 versus the M56 5.0 to sixty. But hey, the M56 is 12k more.

The Hyundai got beat up bad on steering feel, ride quality, and handling. Obviously, it's a very capable motor, but the transmission tends to down shift to 7, then 6, then finally realizes it's 5 it needed but by that time it's a bit late. Interior quality is on the cheaper side. Seats are comfy but don't have as much lateral support (kinda flat).

Hopefully Eibach or Tein comes to the rescue. But, there is only so much you can do with inferior suspension.
Again, in terms of car for the money, it's a great buy. For 38K I certainly would consider one, but for 48K, I would go with an AWD Audi S4 3.0T. Just as fast, superior build, better gas mileage, and very pretty(the genesis is a nice looking car too).

[SmoovC]

Hmm, not sure where you got your specs, but here are a few I read:

Motor Trend: In our July testing, the 4199-pound car hit 60 mph in 4.8 seconds (on par with a BMW 550i), and finished the quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 107.1 mph

Car and Driver: We squeezed a 5.1-second 0-to-60 time from the R-Spec and covered the quarter in 13.7 seconds at 103 mph.

Motorweek: Which helped the R-Spec jump to 60 in just 5.1-seconds. The quarter mile time is also quicker at 13.5-seconds and 106 miles-per-hour.

ALL driver at that point between the 2 cars.

Automobile Magazine: If you are simply trying to get the most for your $50,000, the Genesis 5.0 R-Spec makes a ton of sense -- more power than a BMW 550i or Infiniti M56 for the price of a 535i or M37.

No one will ever mistake the Genesis 5.0 R-Spec for a Mercedes E63 AMG or a Jaguar XFR or a BMW M5, but then again, that was never really Hyundai's intent. Instead, the R-Spec, for which you pay only a $2000 premium over the Genesis 4.6, is aimed at Japanese competitors like the Lexus GS460 and the Infiniti M56. In that company, it holds up pretty well. It is priced about $10,000 less than either of the GS or the M, boasts a powerful V-8 engine that produces 429 hp (versus the GS460's 342 hp and the M56's 420 hp), and offers a refined eight-speed transmission.

Further, as stated the M56 (which I am in love with) stickers at $12k more. The cheapest I found one was $52k used CPO; the Genesis after Dealer and Factory incentives was $36,499. That's $15k, which is a decent chunk of change.

[DaSerb]

I think you are the only person that transformed to a "Hyundai specialist" overnight.

Enjoy the new car and stop barking the wrong tree.

[donnieb83]

I only wish I knew about these cars when I bought my M45 last year. Oh well.....post pics!!!

[SmoovC]

I think you are the only person that transformed to a "Hyundai specialist" overnight.

Enjoy the new car and stop barking the wrong tree.

LOL! Its called research, my friend...

[DeanM45]

My buddy, after riding around in my M, has been on the hunt for a good M45 sport for a while now. We've driven several and also driven a few Hyundais. There are just some minor things that make the Hyundai "less nice" than the M but most of them could be overlooked, at least by me plus those that can't could probably be improved upon. Had I not gotten a smoken deal on my M the Hyundai would have been at or near the top of my list, hell, I was even looking at Sonatas even though I LOATHE FWD. I know I'll get flamed for this as well but I consider my transfer from a Lex GS to the M to have been a step down in a number of areas and most people I know considered it to be a MAJOR step down but I still picked the M over another Lexus. It's all about personal preference and what YOU want as opposed to what everyone else thinks you should have done.

Enough about that though, let's see some pictures of your new ride!

[jonlex99]

I too made the move from Lexus to Infiniti. GS to the M happy with the move they are different cars. Infiniti is gear more tours performance and Lexus is more about luxury. It wasn't to long ago that Lexus started looking into performance with the ISF. Congrats to the OP on the new ride. But remember this is a M forum so you know there won't be too much love for your Hyundai. Put it this way the Hyundai might smoke the M but at the end of the day I will stick with the M.

[DaSerb]

...the Hyundai might smoke the M but at the end of the day I will stick with the M.

agree

[trayday]

DeanM45, im selling mine. Located in Murrieta, look on CL.

[Ilya]

IlyaKol: the model you are thinking of is the Equus.

Equus. Aquus. Same difference lol.

[SmoovC]

I appreciate everyone's input and comments. I am not trying to convert anyone to a Genesis; I am merely expressing what I found as a viable option with regards to performance, price and value. As I stated numerous times, I was looking for a low mile M45 or M56, I just couldn't find one.

I thought the M45 was one of the best cars I have ever owned, and would have loved another one. Is there a quality difference? Absolutely. Is the a price difference? Sure there is. Is there another Infiniti in my future? Most definitely!

[White-Rush]

I appreciate everyone's input and comments. I am not trying to convert anyone to a Genesis; I am merely expressing what I found as a viable option with regards to performance, price and value. As I stated numerous times, I was looking for a low mile M45 or M56, I just couldn't find one.

I thought the M45 was one of the best cars I have ever owned, and would have loved another one. Is there a quality difference? Absolutely. Is the a price difference? Sure there is. Is there another Infiniti in my future? Most definitely!

Very well said Bro. Enjoy the ride man...

[SmoovC]

I appreciate everyone's input and comments. I am not trying to convert anyone to a Genesis; I am merely expressing what I found as a viable option with regards to performance, price and value. As I stated numerous times, I was looking for a low mile M45 or M56, I just couldn't find one.

I thought the M45 was one of the best cars I have ever owned, and would have loved another one. Is there a quality difference? Absolutely. Is the a price difference? Sure there is. Is there another Infiniti in my future? Most definitely!

Very well said Bro. Enjoy the ride man...

Thank you my good man, and you do the same!