Of course not for free. I'm looking to get rid of my HKS Hiper exhaust. Why you ask? I'm in need of money; I've found modifying my car is quite useless, so I'm just gonna get a street bike instead.
Street bike ($2500) - quarter mile: 11 secCar turbo kit ($5k) - quarter mile: 13.5 sec (maybe)
I'm looking to trade up exhausts for a price. If your exhaust is in good shape, I'll take it plus $250, and you can have my HKS. The HKS brand new is about $500, so you're getting half off. I got this exhaust in November, so its barely half a year used. It sounds absolutely stellar, but like I said, I'm selling everything I don't need.
Email me at [email protected]
Serious bidders only, please.
Nick.
Trade my HKS exhaust for your stock exhaust, WA
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Nismo1182 wrote:a S13 with 5k in swap and mods will do more than 13.5
Ive seen daily driven cars that spank the hell out of any moded bike.
Qualify that statement. I won't let this go undisputed. I point you in the direction of Motor Cyclist April '02 issue:
Corvette Z06 vs. Suzuki GSXR1000. Driven one at a time by the same person, during instrumented tests.
Z060-30: 2.31 sec0-60: 4.800-100: 11.191/4: 12.81 sec @ 111.4mph
GSX-R10000-30: 1.450-60: 2.840-100: 5.321/4: 9.87 @ 144.87
These numbers are in close proximity +/- tenths or hundredths to all documented, instrumented testing in every major auto or bike publication.
The Gixer did 0-100-0 before the Z06 got to 100mph.
Convenience is a sacrifice that a rider makes. We deal with it. As we fly past every monkey who thinks his car has a chance.
SmithSR wrote:Qualify that statement. I won't let this go undisputed. I point you in the direction of Motor Cyclist April '02 issue:
Corvette Z06 vs. Suzuki GSXR1000. Driven one at a time by the same person, during instrumented tests.
Z060-30: 2.31 sec0-60: 4.800-100: 11.191/4: 12.81 sec @ 111.4mph
GSX-R10000-30: 1.450-60: 2.840-100: 5.321/4: 9.87 @ 144.87
These numbers are in close proximity +/- tenths or hundredths to all documented, instrumented testing in every major auto or bike publication.
The Gixer did 0-100-0 before the Z06 got to 100mph.
Convenience is a sacrifice that a rider makes. We deal with it. As we fly past every monkey who thinks his car has a chance.
I know the #'s well. I was looking to get a 'busa at one time. Now im just saying this for example but not to be taken lightly. A 9 second Supra vs that same bike.
And there ARE some street driven 7 and 8 second Mustangs in my area (numerous across the country) that will make that bike owner **** his pants as they fly by him on his "slow" 9 second bike. One guy in my area is currently working on a Focus with a 03 cobra motor conversion and the motor will be far from stock once hes done. 03 Cobras can hit 10 seconds easily with bolt ons, imagine in a lightweight Focus
WOW, an exception to the rule does NOT disprove the rule. It is still the exception, and, as such, is a rare occurance.
How many street legal 9 second Supras are currently in production?
Show some documented numbers to back up what you say, then hit a road course with a 9 second Supra and a Gixer, and you'll be singing a different tune. See, even if you could build a faster straight line car, a FACTORY Gixer will still eat if for lunch on a road course.
Bring what you want, but the power to weight ratio of a bike is unbeatable. I don't see what your point is of mentioning the rarest of rare quarter mile cars. So, somewhere in this country, there are a select few *street legal* cars which could outrun a Gixer in a straight line. That's reasonable. That's a point to argue. Or, maybe... not.
Those are available with warranty....where?Those are produced, where?Those are street legal, where?Those are useable in the real world on a busy street with heavy traffic, where?Those are fast around what turn?Around what road course?
How many street legal 9 second Supras are currently in production?
Show some documented numbers to back up what you say, then hit a road course with a 9 second Supra and a Gixer, and you'll be singing a different tune. See, even if you could build a faster straight line car, a FACTORY Gixer will still eat if for lunch on a road course.
Bring what you want, but the power to weight ratio of a bike is unbeatable. I don't see what your point is of mentioning the rarest of rare quarter mile cars. So, somewhere in this country, there are a select few *street legal* cars which could outrun a Gixer in a straight line. That's reasonable. That's a point to argue. Or, maybe... not.
Those are available with warranty....where?Those are produced, where?Those are street legal, where?Those are useable in the real world on a busy street with heavy traffic, where?Those are fast around what turn?Around what road course?
Ask and you shall receive:
http://www.nordschleife.no/
Link leads to the nurburgring website and list times and stats for the vehicles run on there. Not exactly a small auto-x course but im sure your aware of what kind of track it is.
anyway heres a few #'s
20,832 km 7.58 = 157 km/h Suzuki GSX-R 1000, Bernd Schweigert, Germany, 2002.
Not too shaby considering the fastest time was 6.11 by a Porche. Of course a heavy *** car such as the Supra wont hold a candle to a bike on a road coarse, but a Porche will.
I love bikes, like I stated above. I might still get a Hayabusa someday. I hear the R1s are pretty good too. Im not trying to start an argument with you. Just stating bikes can be beaten. Can they be beaten 100% of the time? NO. But then whats the point of getting a fast bike and think you can beat everyone if theres no car around to challenge you
http://www.nordschleife.no/
Link leads to the nurburgring website and list times and stats for the vehicles run on there. Not exactly a small auto-x course but im sure your aware of what kind of track it is.
anyway heres a few #'s
20,832 km 7.58 = 157 km/h Suzuki GSX-R 1000, Bernd Schweigert, Germany, 2002.
Not too shaby considering the fastest time was 6.11 by a Porche. Of course a heavy *** car such as the Supra wont hold a candle to a bike on a road coarse, but a Porche will.
I love bikes, like I stated above. I might still get a Hayabusa someday. I hear the R1s are pretty good too. Im not trying to start an argument with you. Just stating bikes can be beaten. Can they be beaten 100% of the time? NO. But then whats the point of getting a fast bike and think you can beat everyone if theres no car around to challenge you
:bearchug sorry about my ranting. no hard feelings, and I do see what you're saying, and you're right. Zebrahead, if at all possible, get the bike. There's a very good chance that you could go your whole life and never line up next to a car that could beat you.
EDIT: Hang on. Now you're comparing a 650hp, twin turbo race car. Are we at least in agreement that *for the money* there is no contest with a liter bike? People always say aw damn for the money of a Ferrari, I could get two of this or three of that with a swap for this car and blah blah. They fail to realize that for roughly $12K they can get a NEW bike that will own every vehicle they see. How much did the groupC Porsche racing 956 cost?
I've never seen a GroupC Porsche 956 on the interstate nor have I seen one throwin down at a stoplight. And i never will. What's real world? What's useable?
EDIT: Hang on. Now you're comparing a 650hp, twin turbo race car. Are we at least in agreement that *for the money* there is no contest with a liter bike? People always say aw damn for the money of a Ferrari, I could get two of this or three of that with a swap for this car and blah blah. They fail to realize that for roughly $12K they can get a NEW bike that will own every vehicle they see. How much did the groupC Porsche racing 956 cost?
I've never seen a GroupC Porsche 956 on the interstate nor have I seen one throwin down at a stoplight. And i never will. What's real world? What's useable?
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I want a bike... BAD!! But I also know my propensity to push the limits of every machine I drive... and I'm sure I would end up wrapped around a tree. Most new sport bikes are built to handle more than I can... so me pushing it = bike killing me!!
Maybe a mid 90's CBR 600 or something... I can handle that much snappiddy-snap!
Maybe a mid 90's CBR 600 or something... I can handle that much snappiddy-snap!
SmithSR wrote:WOW, an exception to the rule does NOT disprove the rule. It is still the exception, and, as such, is a rare occurance.
How many street legal 9 second Supras are currently in production?
Show some documented numbers to back up what you say, then hit a road course with a 9 second Supra and a Gixer, and you'll be singing a different tune. See, even if you could build a faster straight line car, a FACTORY Gixer will still eat if for lunch on a road course.
Bring what you want, but the power to weight ratio of a bike is unbeatable. I don't see what your point is of mentioning the rarest of rare quarter mile cars. So, somewhere in this country, there are a select few *street legal* cars which could outrun a Gixer in a straight line. That's reasonable. That's a point to argue. Or, maybe... not.
Those are available with warranty....where?Those are produced, where?Those are street legal, where?Those are useable in the real world on a busy street with heavy traffic, where?Those are fast around what turn?Around what road course?
Thank you. You're right on the money. The sheer rarity of cars that he discribed is amazing. I don't think I've ever SEEN a car that. Every day I see a few yzf r1s / r6s around ... a hella fast bike that runs low 10s out of the factory. Why even argue teh point that some cars are faster? There will ALWAYS be something faster, better, bigger, whatever the case. You will NEVER have something that is the best, someone will always beat you (its the sad truth, folks).
Take 1,000 random cars off the street, and $20 says none will beat a well driven 600cc bike (like a cbr, or an r6). Those are the kind of odds that I like.
Nick.
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why would you try to compare each other anyways, they never run on the same track at the same time, if you get a bike youll be racing other bikes, or if you have a car, youll be racing other cars........i never see cars and bikes race each other at the same time on a drag strip, maybe on the street but....
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I know, im sorry about that statement. It should have read"Ive seen daily driven cars that spank the hell out of SOME moded bikes. " It always comes down to the driver too 
And I guess I was a little angry from the other night me and my buddy were having some fun from stop light to stop light when this yamaha bike rolls up next to us and ask me (stock 240) and my buddy (stock MX3) if we want to race him :rolleyes I should have gran theft auto his *** and taken his bike for asking such a stupid question.
And I guess I was a little angry from the other night me and my buddy were having some fun from stop light to stop light when this yamaha bike rolls up next to us and ask me (stock 240) and my buddy (stock MX3) if we want to race him :rolleyes I should have gran theft auto his *** and taken his bike for asking such a stupid question.
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and death or becoming a vegetable. If you're doing that on a bike you don't have long a long time left with full motion of your bodily extremities.Tino wrote:just think, wheelies, stoppies, sturgis and biches.
As for my views on this (besides that this thread has been jacked:pface ): Bikes are much faster bang for buck, no contest. That's what they're built for. Personally I would never own a bike, too unsafe, too much death, too many irresponsible SUVs are going to run me over. In my car at least I have some protection and space to carry cargo/passengers.
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Rockenreno should get in this thread and tell you about how his freind is in prison or something for vehicular manslaugter because he was racing a dude on a bike and the guy on the bike hit a bottle or something and "liquified" himself on a concret barier. Bikes are fast and all but they are literally the most dangerous vehicle you could posibley buy. I have seen my dads freind who got in a bike acident. One leg is 6 inches shorter than the other and he only has one arm. Nuff said.
I see some of you people talking about getting 600cc bikes or 1L bikes, for your first bike, not just in this thread but a couple others there have been on bikes recently. I was thinking about this, but then I talked to this guy names Bruce I know, he's been riding for 20 years, and he GAURENTEED me I would end up dead or paralyzed if I bought a heavy cc bike for my frist bike, and simply told me he would rather see me around longer than that and could probably hook me up with a little 200cc dirt bike to learn on. Yeah, I wish you all the best of luck with the riding. Would you ever give someone who's only drivin an 88 accord stick a 9 second supra and tell him to go have fun on the highway? Probably not. There isn't much difference on a bike, expcept a greater risk.