traction control

[George Infiniti]

I was wondering if there is anyway to completely disable the traction control on m35s..even when u turn off VDC traction still kicks in?!

[KoMikeey]

really? when i take traction control off i am able to drift around without it stopping me.

[George Infiniti]

ya i can drift but flooring it off the line traction kicks in and doing a burn out is next to impossible

[KoMikeey]

i can burn out, peel out with traction control off, but when i have the traction control on, i would peel out for a second, and slip and traction control would kick in.

[George Infiniti]

So when u turn vdc off it allows you to burn out in place (brake torque) and off the line aswell? Bc mine does not mine acts te same as if VDC were on for the exception of donuts just trying to figure out what going on

[EniGmA1987]

I was wondering if there is anyway to completely disable the traction control on m35s..even when u turn off VDC traction still kicks in?!

yes there is. Find an open spot and have traction control on. Press the VDC button and at the same time slam the wheel all the way over and put the gas pedal to the floor. This will cause a computer crash and the entire stability control system will go offline. You can drive to your heart's content. Everything will boot back up fine when the car is started next time with no damage (unless you do something retarded and crash your car while your having fun)

My VDC didnt use to be on at all if I turned it off, however this past year or two the VDC still kicks in for some reason even when off. Just not to the same degree as when the VDC mode is turned on. This doesnt always happen, just most of the time. IMO the VDC system is just buggy and doesnt ever actually want to be fully disabled. Crashing the whole system works best

[George Infiniti]

Cool never knew that but should inhave to worry about future problems?

[GenericM35]

Interesting. That computer crash workaround is clever. Most cars have no way of completely disabling traction control. In fact, even some "performance cars" like the VW Rabbit have no way of completely disabling traction control.

[EniGmA1987]

Cool never knew that but should inhave to worry about future problems?

Not to my knowledge. If anything breaks over time it will be because you have been putting a lot of stress on the car by having so much fun with it, not because the computer is purposefully crashed. The computer system is written to a highly stable flash based EEPROM type of device and causing it to go offline wont affect the data that is written there. It will however leave a log of the crash in the error report. If you dont want Infiniti tech's seeing this crash report you can turn your audio off and hold down the settings button (I think) and spin the volume knob 15 clicks either direction. Keep the settings button held down and do the same 15 turns again to get into detailed diagnostics mode. From there you can find the error log and clear it.

I have crashed the computer system about 20 times in a couple years, nothing wrong with the car and a little over 125,000 miles on it. Still runs good and can hit 155 mph on the freeway like it was nothing. Keep up your maintenance and take care of the car and it will serve you well for a long time to come.
I do not recommend going 155 mph in your car unless you have somewhat new tires, have them properly balanced and aligned, have somewhat new brakes, your oil is good, and your suspension system was recently inspected good. Making sure your car is in perfect condition for such speeds is very important before simply trying to do it cause you feel like it. And make sure the freeway is plenty empty, or better yet do it on a track. It is good to note though than a stock M35 will top out on flat ground at 158 mph without any mods other than disabling the governor.

[KoMikeey]

yeah, you can never disable the governor though. mines set at 220mph some speed i cant reach, and i really dont know how the m35 are set up but it should be the same or as close as the m45s, but i have mine tuned so idk, i beat the s*** out of my car, and take off traction control.

[Ilya]

Interesting. That computer crash workaround is clever. Most cars have no way of completely disabling traction control. In fact, even some "performance cars" like the VW Rabbit have no way of completely disabling traction control.

Did you really just call a VW Rabbit a performance car?

[DeanM45]

Interesting. That computer crash workaround is clever. Most cars have no way of completely disabling traction control. In fact, even some "performance cars" like the VW Rabbit have no way of completely disabling traction control.

Did you really just call a VW Rabbit a performance car?

Ever see one go off a cliff? They haul a$$ on the way down. Pretty effective at stopping too when they hit the ground.

[GenericM35]

Did you really just call a VW Rabbit a performance car?

Ever see one go off a cliff? They haul a$$ on the way down. Pretty effective at stopping too when they hit the ground.

LOL. I personally hate that car, but yes, the Golf R/GTI are viewed as "performance cars" (notice how I keep putting the quotes).

[mexillis]

In order to do a brake stand you will have to disconnect the brown wire harness behind the brake pedal. First you will have to put the car in neutral, e brake engaged, then disconnect. Doing this will allow you to override the computer's decision of braking overrides throttle. If you do that though you wont have brake lights as shown below and any time you put it in park it wont let you get out until the harness is plugged back in and engine re-started.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLVCS4X7BTA&feature=plcp[/youtube]

[M-Pilot]

An M-35 will do 155mph? Holy cow! Is that the same for an M35X?

[EniGmA1987]

An M-35 will do 155mph? Holy cow! Is that the same for an M35X?

Dont know for sure, but most probably yes. The top speed is actually 158MPH, but those last 5mph take a long time to get past. Perfect at climbing all the way to 140 before you notice any sort of slowdown in its accel. The X version might even do better since it runs at slightly higher RPM's, which mean more power, which means 1 or 2 more MPH. Plus you have power going to all 4 wheels, which may or may not help. The 158 is the physical limit of the car before it just cant be pushed anymore because ground resistance and wind force against the car are just too much, it isnt topped out on RPM's. And M45 could probably easily hit 170mph at stock since it has a lot more power, only thing that may hold it back is the much lower final drive ratio

[M-Pilot]

An M-35 will do 155mph? Holy cow! Is that the same for an M35X?

Dont know for sure, but most probably yes. The top speed is actually 158MPH, but those last 5mph take a long time to get past. Perfect at climbing all the way to 140 before you notice any sort of slowdown in its accel. The X version might even do better since it runs at slightly higher RPM's, which mean more power, which means 1 or 2 more MPH. Plus you have power going to all 4 wheels, which may or may not help. The 158 is the physical limit of the car before it just cant be pushed anymore because ground resistance and wind force against the car are just too much, it isnt topped out on RPM's. And M45 could probably easily hit 170mph at stock since it has a lot more power, only thing that may hold it back is the much lower final drive ratio

Don't think I want to go that fast. I've been up to 115mph and that's fast enough for me... What is different about the engine from that of an Altima 3.5 or Maxima 3.5. Is it all tuning? Or are they the same?

[EniGmA1987]

In order to do a brake stand you will have to disconnect the brown wire harness behind the brake pedal. First you will have to put the car in neutral, e brake engaged, then disconnect. Doing this will allow you to override the computer's decision of braking overrides throttle. If you do that though you wont have brake lights as shown below and any time you put it in park it wont let you get out until the harness is plugged back in and engine re-started.

I wonder if it would be possible to simply add a disconnect switch to the harness? How many wires are there in it?
And it is possible that if you enter diagnostic mode and then exit that you wont have to turn off the car. Exiting the diagnostic mode looks like it restarts the computer, so maybe that would be enough to be able to shift out of park again once the harness is plugged back in.

Don't think I want to go that fast. I've been up to 115mph and that's fast enough for me... What is different about the engine from that of an Altima 3.5 or Maxima 3.5. Is it all tuning? Or are they the same?

I dont know if there is any difference at all.

[Ilya]

Did you really just call a VW Rabbit a performance car?

Ever see one go off a cliff? They haul a$$ on the way down. Pretty effective at stopping too when they hit the ground.

LOL. I personally hate that car, but yes, the Golf R/GTI are viewed as "performance cars" (notice how I keep putting the quotes).

You said Rabbit. Not GTI/R. Those are, indeed. The Rabbit? No.

As for speeds...I blew past a trooper at 130 a few weeks ago in an unnamed state. Lucky for me, he was digging in his center console or something. lol.

[M-Pilot]

LOL. I personally hate that car, but yes, the Golf R/GTI are viewed as "performance cars" (notice how I keep putting the quotes).[/quote]

You said Rabbit. Not GTI/R. Those are, indeed. The Rabbit? No.

As for speeds...I blew past a trooper at 130 a few weeks ago in an unnamed state. Lucky for me, he was digging in his center console or something. lol.[/quote]
Didn't want to have to haul you in

[bejjutsu]

As for speeds...I blew past a trooper at 130 a few weeks ago in an unnamed state. Lucky for me, he was digging in his center console or something. lol.

That would be quite a nice sized ticket

[EniGmA1987]

As for speeds...I blew past a trooper at 130 a few weeks ago in an unnamed state. Lucky for me, he was digging in his center console or something. lol.

That would be quite a nice sized ticket

Trust me, its a whole lot more than just a big ticket.

[rxmclaren7]

EniGmA, do tell.......

[M-Pilot]

So, there's an Altima that does 158mph?

[szh]

That would be quite a nice sized ticket

Trust me, its a whole lot more than just a big ticket.

In many states, they will arrest you and put you in jail till they get you in front of a judge.

Z

[szh]

I do not recommend going 155 mph in your car unless you have somewhat new tires, have them properly balanced and aligned, have somewhat new brakes, your oil is good, and your suspension system was recently inspected good. Making sure your car is in perfect condition for such speeds is very important before simply trying to do it cause you feel like it. And make sure the freeway is plenty empty, or better yet do it on a track.

Absolutely, ABSOLUTELY agreed!

Particularly on the tires! If you have any patches internally or tire repairs for example, the speed rating is down-graded. Balanced tires are essential to avoid bouncing and damaging shocks and bearings.

Remember to put some extra aire into the tires too ... as much as 5 to 7 psi more than normal (run at 40 to 42 psi COLD inflate for example). This reduces side-wall flex and over-heating tires that could lead to a blowout (remember the Ford/Firestone fiasco? Even at standard highway speeds, under-inflating tires can be a disaster).

Z