TPMS Problem after rotation

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I just had my tires on my 07 M35 rotated and balanced, now the TPMS is not reading. I have only driven about 20 miles since this was done today, does anyone know of a reason this would happen? Any way to fix this? Thanks for any advice.


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do a search on this topic, as it has come up about 10 times in the past couple of months. The consensus seems to be either it will work it's way out in a week or so, or it needs to be reset at the dealer.

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as stated in the owners manual, drive the car for over 10 minutes at speeds over 20mph and after that the system will reset itself

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Did that, still nothing.....I guess I'll wait a few days and see what happens. Thanks for the replies!

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I would say take it back to the dealer (if they are the ones who R&B'd your tires) they should fix it free of charge.It is not a safety issue and I would stop by when you are in the area with a few minutes to spare. You may want to call your advisor, the system needs to be reset at the time of rotation to work properly. It may have been a simple oversight on the techs part, as I will admit I have done it a few times.

It may reset itself but that seems to be a fluke and I would not count on it.


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At least I am not alone I have the same problem on an 06 M35 new tires right rear indicates 0 air 20 seconds after I pull off had the dealer reset the sensors to no avail replaced sensor with spare sensor 20 minutes later same reading.

Have not had it reset since the sensor replacement .....My question is isn't there a way to reset by going deeper into the menus on the dash and using the radio dial........... somewhere on here I read that ...anyone know what I am talking about please respond

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You guys aren't listening. You have to drive the car over 20mph until they reset. You cannot drop below 20mph or you will have to start all over again. It takes about ten minutes so pick a long stretch of road. Keep the maintenence / tire page on the display and you can watch them reset one at a time.

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Hermj wrote:My question is isn't there a way to reset by going deeper into the menus on the dash and using the radio dial
Short answer No I have been in every sub group of the diagnostic menu and there is no way to reset the sensors without using a Consult.

Now when you say the sensor reads "0" is it actually zero or two asterisks. The key difference is if the screen is reading zero means the tires are programmed to the control unit. Two asterisks means that the sensor is not registered. If you replaced the tire with the spare and the monitor was not reset than the pressure will not be displayed.
edh13 wrote:You guys aren't listening. You have to drive the car over 20mph until they reset. You cannot drop below 20mph or you will have to start all over again. It takes about ten minutes so pick a long stretch of road. Keep the maintenence / tire page on the display and you can watch them reset one at a time.
Not with the M. Many of the other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles that do not display current tire pressure and location may be able to clear the light by driving only if the sensors are programmed to the control unit or BCM (depending on model). The control unit will not accept signals from sensors that have not had their frequency and ID numbers registered which can only be done at the dealer.

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Steve, just to clarify, lets say my 4work right now. I go get tires rotated and they don't work. Will they reset themselves in that situation, or does that require consult?

Another way of asking it is are the sensors registered at that specific location, or are all 4 registered to the entire car and then after rotation they will "figure it out" after a few miles?

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striz923 wrote:Another way of asking it is are the sensors registered at that specific location, or are all 4 registered to the entire car and then after rotation they will "figure it out" after a few miles?
Technically they are supposed to recognize the new location but for some reason they do not. After rotation (if done at the dealer) they should be reprogrammed to the new location and if they are not I would advise calling and talking to your advisor.

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Thanks It is reading "astericks". I believe the original was broken during new tire change. I replaced it with the Spare tire sensor. I have driven the required distance for a solid week for reset. You answered my question totally Thanks a bunch. Consult.......... reset it is

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I am having this problem now as well. I just went to 18s from 19 SPORT Wheels and now have *asterisks*. I am going to wait for a week to see if the TPMS comes to life, like stated above.

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If you changed the sensors and/or the registered location they will need to be reset, no amount of driving will remedy this.

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I have driven mine twice now for over 2 hours at 75MPH. Still reads the asterisks...Guess I'll have to go to the dealer....Seems like this should be something covered under warranty but I doubt it is...

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from what I have read, most places will do it for a few bucks, but I think they should do it for free since it is very inconvenient to have to go back every time you rotate the tires. That is unless they are trying to MAKE you go to the dealer for tire rotations and such. Stevethetech said it is supposed to reset itself, but for some reason it doesn't.

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In all the literature from the company they say this car has an "intelligent" TPM system in which it should reset itself. It does not however I do not know why.

The system works perfectly well when the sensors are programmed correctly it is not some type of scam to get you into the dealer. If you have a good repore with your local dealer they may help you out. Some dealers do charge a fee to reset tire lights, I can understand both sides of this argument, however if you had the tires rotated at your dealer there will be no issue if not i would consider having them do it from now on. Just my 0.02.

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I am definately giving them the benefit of the doubt as I am not a conspiracy theorist I also see the idea of charging for your time (even if the product is flawed). Are there independant places that can reprogram also, or is it a Infiniti proprietary type thing. The reason I ask is Tire Rack "recommended" this local place to install new rims/tires on on their website the place said TPMS --- yes, where all the other ones said no.

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Yeah I have read that and a few things on the generic products, I have no opinion on them I don't know if they work but I highly doubt it.

The way I do it is using Consult and the wireless transmitter tool. I really have seen no luck with other members in various NICO forums with these services.

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Steve, The original post was about a simple tire rotation on a 07 M35. You’re making this way to convoluted. This is not rocket science. I rotate my own tires on my 07 M35 and have done this now 7 or 8 times. After the rotation you will have **. Drive the thing above 20mph for about ten minutes DO NOT DROP BELOW 20mph and you can watch them reset one at a time on the maint/tire page. Works EVERY time. If they are the original sensors there is no reason they need to be reset at the dealer.

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edh, What year model is your car? This reset does not work on my 07....maybe it works differently on different year models.

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Tires finally reset by themselves today, did not require a trip to the dealer, only about a month of driving...maybe it is more of a time thing than a distance/MPH thing.

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I think it is more of a fluke. There is nothing published in regards to the system resetting itself and I do see this happen on some occasions they 06s for some reason a less likely to reset themselves.


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Took mine back to the dealer problem solved no charge from the dealer TPMS reset now after 3 weeks it did not reset itself. But no dealer charge

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Got 4 new tires put on and only two of the TPMS sensors are displaying tire pressure readings. Rear two have **'s.

I'm going to the dealer to have them reset.

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I had an independent shop (that hasn't seen any Infinitis as far as I can tell) change the oil and rotate the tires. The tire pressure indicated correctly immediately. I guess either way it is a fluke.

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I had the same problem after getting a new set of tires today. In the end, the technician took a little portable reader, read the ID's off of each wheel, plugged it into the car and updated the IDs/locations for the sensors and voila, all the sensors registered within a minute of driving. so..basically, they must have accidentally swapped the sensors from their original locations and the onboard computer needed to be updated with the new ID/locations.


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