Toyota solid lifters in CA?

[tommey]

I read somewhere that 1zz lifters are the same diameter as the CA ones wich should be just under 31mm in diameter?
Considering that the Tomei lifters cost around 400$ and you could probably get a set of used toyota lifters for a fraction of that, could it be a good budget modification?
I mean, if you are on a budget but still are going with stainless valves, uprated springs then saving 350$ wouldnt be a bad thing?
If supertech still are willing to make custom length valves for a reasonable price like they did before.

I think that several Toyota engines uses the same diameter lifters..

[themadscientist]

RB26

[tommey]

A good option, but atleast here Toyota lifters are far more available.

[themadscientist]

Not so much you need to take the risk on the Toyota lifters. The Tomei solid lifters for the CA are the same ones for the RB and the VG.

[tommey]

I dont see any risk in Toyota lifters if they fit.

Here in Norway there aren`t many scrap RB26 engines to get them from anyways.

[themadscientist]

Who said scrap? So you want custom valves, but used lifters? That's weird. It's like you just want something bizarre and are trying to reverse engineer a legitimate reason.

[tommey]

Trying to save cash..
why would anyone sell their RB26 lifters if the head is totally fine?

[themadscientist]

It's called a Nissan parts supplier. BUY NEW ONES!

http://www.nissan.no/

If you need the part number it's easy to find.

Want Tomei lifters, Here's the dealer in your country.

http://www.bjornstadbil.no/public.aspx?pageid=69379

If you are trying to save cash throw the hydraulic lifters back in the head. Quit half-assing s***.

[float_6969]

I can't haz solid lifters in the Colonies :~(

[tommey]

How is using perfectly good used lifters half-assing?
Tomei lifters cost about $400, New OEM RB26 lifters will cost ALOT from a Nissan dealer, atleast here.
I found RB26 lifters from RHDjapan, they wany $848 for 16 lifters.
I have Tomei lifters, i still need custom valves because i like to run shimless.

[themadscientist]

Again, there is no need to do that. You WANT to do that. It is in no way necessary or better; it's just your taste. Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick two. You want to build it cheap, pick one more. You might cheese something together on a shoestring that makes power for about a week then you won't have to wonder which rod you used, they will be poking through the block for you to look at. You can piece together a reliable motor on the cheap, but this pie in the sky "I'm an artist" crap will have to go.

You are all over the place and it's going to bite you in the a**. The reason I abandoned this little project is because when I mapped out what needed to be done, I realized it required a few high-dollar custom bits that I just couldn't afford.

You have gone a bit further than I and you appear to be in sight of the finish line, but are having an ADD flare up and obsessing on s*** that is either going to make sure you never finish this, cause your costs to spike when the reality that cheaping out on the front end almost always leads to expensive rework to correct it on the back end, or you push through focused only on hearing it run and start becoming increasingly ghetto as you go on just to be able to finish. You will start it, it will run, you will smile, you will rev it up, and the U.N. will place sanctions on your garage because you are building improvised explosive devices.

It's your money and it's your build. I freely admit part of me wants you to f*** up and blow it up because I still don't like you and I hate that I could have done this long before if I had committed. That's a really small part of me though. Regardless of my feelings towards you, you are doing something fun and I don't like to see anyone brave a new idea and get left with nothing for the effort; that sucks.

Step out of your own head for a minute and do a mission statement on this build. What are you really trying to accomplish? If you just want to show off, ok, proceed as you are and you should do that effectively, but just that. If you want to build a Frankenstein motor that is reliable within your budget you are going to need to get real.

There is not a damned thing wrong with standard valves. There is nothing wrong with standard lifters unless you intend to live above 8K all day. If that is the case, pick up some solid Tomei lifters or some NEW stock RB26 lifters and use brainpower and development cost and time on something you actually need to re-engineer,,,or don't. I think you won't listen, but that's just years of having this same conversation with a hundred people and maybe one or two actually listening. Those two never called me for a ride because their s*** ran.

[tommey]

I think you are reading too much in to this, this has NOTHING to do with the socalled "frankenbuild"!

This thread was meant as a thread where the users of this forum who wants to go solid could discuss and maybe save some cash.

I have Tomei lifters and i am going solid because my cams would kill a hydraulic lifter..
Not because its cool...
Stock valves are fine, but they are too short for this head.

My other two engines run hydraulic lifters, and thats fine on stock cams.

[bimeur]

I've made a long search about compatibility for solid lifters.

Finally, I've made them on a lath, with a friend which is his job.....

[tommey]

Thats an option too, but that takes alot of time and some skillz.
Or an CNC lathe is preferred.
Post pics?

[tommey]

Doublepost...

[s13drifter88]

Trade sexual favors for lifters and then affording them wont be a problem

[bimeur]

Thats an option too, but that takes alot of time and some skillz.
Or an CNC lathe is preferred.
Post pics?

well, I had to pull out camshafts....and change timing belt....for a pic......LOL? ^^

[datso]

When I checked with Tighe cams who supply all kinds of racing budgets they have a list of solid lifters to use from toyota engines that use bucket over shim and shim over bucket and it seems the 3sge, 1zzfe and 1ufze fit the bill. Im going to go the budget way as long as it all measures up I dont see why spend the huge money for the same thing. Toyota make excellent engines and Ill be a happy to save $$$ and put that towards my camshaft and maybe custom pistons.
If you venture into speedway engines of the past there where always mix matching of makes and parts with great success and detonations in some cases but thats what makes it fun.
For example....Laurie Seidl 'Wildcat' engine so named because most of the components were from road cars with a cat emblem or an association with wild cats. It was brilliantly put together by Laurie Seidl using a Jaguar mark 7 Cylinder head less the two centre cylinders mounted on a Peugeot 403 engine block, Triumph TR3 crankshaft, Fiat 1800 conrods, special alloy 14.1 dome pistons fitted and with direct port injection for the methanol, it produced 265 BHP @ 7000 RPM from the 120 ci 1966cc motor. The engine had a 3.250" bore and 3.625" stroke. It truly is a work of art, and I say 'is' because it still exists.

Now thats human magic of bitsa engineering!

Toyota solid lifters on a Nissan engine nothing to it.