Toyo T1R treadlife?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Can anyone offer feeback on the treadlife of these tires? I'm looking at getting a set for the back of my Q but treadlife is a big concern. I drive A LOT (around 18-20k miles per year) and I'd really like to avoid buying tires every year.

The T1R seems like the ideal choice especially with it's reasonable wet-weather traction (which is a must since this is my only car), the only thing I'm not sure about is longevity.

I'll be going with a 255-45-17 tire most likely, or less likely a 245-45-17.

[Rex]

I drive A LOT (around 18-20k miles per year) and I'd really like to avoid buying tires every year.

Then you bought the wrong car

On to the helpful/serious response.

I actually had Toyo T1R's on my other black Q45 for about 10 months. Put about 12k on them and was down to the wear bars.

I'd suggest you go with these in 245/45/17's all around and rotate every oil change. Scroll down to near the bottom for you size. I wouldn't get the "2005 Production ones".

[captainfalco]

I'm not sure the RE01-R's are going to do a whole lot better. You may want to step up to just a high performance all-season instead of the summer only compound of the Bridgestones and the Toyos you mentioned. The high performance all seasons will yield the traction and mileage you need. I would look for something in the 380-450 treadwear rating. What size are you looking for by the way?

[ashibah83]

check out Falken FK452's, ive heard nothing but good things about them

[Rex]

I'm not sure the RE01-R's are going to do a whole lot better. You may want to step up to just a high performance all-season instead of the summer only compound of the Bridgestones and the Toyos you mentioned. The high performance all seasons will yield the traction and mileage you need. I would look for something in the 380-450 treadwear rating. What size are you looking for by the way?

I was reco'ing the RE's from a price stand point. Those once every year, versus something as/more expensive with less grip every 2 years.

His car would constantly be breaking loose a set of ~400 wear rated tires. Think 285 RWTQ and a 4.08 rear gear.

[AZhitman]

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I don't put anything with a TW over 250 on ANYTHING I drive.

Sticky tires = shorter stopping distances.

[captainfalco]

I was reco'ing the RE's from a price stand point. Those once every year, versus something as/more expensive with less grip every 2 years.

His car would constantly be breaking loose a set of ~400 wear rated tires. Think 285 RWTQ and a 4.08 rear gear.

Ahh, I see where you are going with this. I know most of the RE01R's are gone by now, but if his size is available, he should go for it. I'm sure that Utah sees less than desirable weather sometimes too, and that is where the all season recommendation came from me.

check out Falken FK452's, ive heard nothing but good things about them

This is more along the lines of what I was recommending, less grip, more mileage and a/s traction.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I can deal with low wear and annual replacement if I have to. I'm simply trying to find the best blend of dry traction, wet traction, and longevity possible. Dry traction is the ultimate concern, but the other two are still decision-makers.

I'm actually only planning to replace 2 tires now as I still have two good tires. I'll probably wait a few months to replace the other two. Just seems like a waste to pay for 4 tires when I don't need 4. Especially when I just spent $400 on snow tires in October. I just don't have that much money to dump into tires.I NEED two tires, though, and I'm not going to throw my cash away on crappy tires, either. So I'm going to buy the RIGHT two tires now, and two more of those tires later.

I haven't found treadwear ratings anywhere near dependable in my experience. My ZE512s were rated at 420 and they lasted me 22k miles on a gutless FWD car. I did drive the ever-loving piss out of it but that doesn't change the fact that it was a gutless front-driver. The Eagle RS-A's on my dad's not-gutless front-driver lasted him over 4 years with a 260 TW. How did the Falkens screw that up? Even considering how much I drive, his tires still lasted 3 times as long with half the treadwear rating. I know the RS-As are garbage but that's beside the point. Or maybe it's not...

I'm not sure the RE01-R's are going to do a whole lot better. You may want to step up to just a high performance all-season

I definitely don't want all-seasons as I have dedicated winter wheels and tires already. I need "real" tires. The wet weather stipulation is simply due to the fact that with the wrong tires this car is a handful in the rain.

BTW, nice Kids in the Hall avatar.

[captainfalco]

I understand your emphasis on the higher performance you need now. Since you don't really need a true all-season, but you want a little mileage I'll give you a few to look at.

You can try the new BFGoodrich G-Force supersport. I would imagine they would be fairly grippy and it has a 400 treadwear rating. The G-force sport is good as well, it offers good good grip, 320 treadwear rating, and should be priced right for a BFG.

Dunlop has the DZ101 and the Star Spec. The DZ101 is supposed to be good, and the Star Spec is awesome, but it's along the lines of the T1-r and the re01-r. Both the Dunlops will have that $50 mail in rebate as well.

The only Goodyear I like is the F1 GSD3.I like the Hankook RS-2's (200, AA, A), I have them on one set of wheels, but I haven't really gotten to test them out in the rain yet.Continental has a deal for a $75 rebate on purchasing 4 tires, if you can find something in that line it might be worthwhile.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Well, after doing some (more) research, I'm leaning now more toward the Proxes 4. They're all-season but still UHP and they seem to give me the blend of wet/dry traction and longevity I'm looking for. From reviews and experiences I've read I should be able to extract over 20k miles from them without much issue if I rotate regularly.

I was kind of annoyed by a tire shop that has been otherwise very good to me in the past. I've bought lots of tires there for many many years. But the guy was stuck on selling me a set of Hankook Ventus which just didn't seem up to spec. Tire Rack's scores for the tires are pretty mediocre, so I definitely won't be going with those.