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sidewaySilvia
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Re: (nab911)
Laptop installation would be a hell of a lot more convenient plus you could easily remove the whole thing. I like an unconventional setup though, like what burnin is doing.
What are the cons to this kind of install? Seems like your runnin a good amount of power, will you have to upgrade the battery? Will it put a heavy load on alternator?I heard someone say power invertors will make noise. Is there anyway to incorporate some kind of noise suppressor or run a filter in-line with the invertor?
What are the cons to this kind of install? Seems like your runnin a good amount of power, will you have to upgrade the battery? Will it put a heavy load on alternator?I heard someone say power invertors will make noise. Is there anyway to incorporate some kind of noise suppressor or run a filter in-line with the invertor?
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sidewaySilvia
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Re: (sidewaySilvia)
Another thing, can you purchase the y jack in a higher quality? Maybe, gold-plated jacks. Those ones pictured look like they're from a freakin ODD LOT. And another thing ,, ,, thanks hehe.
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mrbean
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Re: (sidewaySilvia)
Wow, this is exactly what I'd like to pull off for my car. Complete flexiblility and adaptability... for under 1k rooling
My only question is: Is there any way to cushion the HD? With full coils, my ride's pretty rough, and I'm not sure a regularly mounted HD will hold up too well... Anyone know of any good mounts for that sort of situation?
My only question is: Is there any way to cushion the HD? With full coils, my ride's pretty rough, and I'm not sure a regularly mounted HD will hold up too well... Anyone know of any good mounts for that sort of situation?
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sidewaySilvia
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Re: (mrbean)
I will be purchasing mostly external drives for laptop. I'm sure there you can use lp hd with mobo just l00k for everything external for lp.. I have an external cdrw for laptop but I'm l00king for something a little more up to spec and multi-task.If anything,pc hd's aren't really that big and there are numerous places and ways to mount the thing.
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hannibal
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Re: (sidewaySilvia)
if your doing a custom mount, you should mount the hard drive on its side. if there is a big bump, the needle will skip, instead of hitting the platter. and use rubber grommets to attach the HD to your case/frame
laptop HDs are cool. theyre designed to work in a mobile environment, so they can take more abuse (the datasheets will tell you maximum shock they can handle). and they use less power. you need a $5 adapter to hook it up. but you could buy two desktop HDs for the price of a notebook HD.
the Via Epia board that Burnin used is designed for low power. i think a 1ghz with laptop CD and laptop HD is under 40W total. a desktop P4 with a few drives and video/audio cards uses 250W+
they do have things to reduce noise from an inverter. dont know much about them...
laptop HDs are cool. theyre designed to work in a mobile environment, so they can take more abuse (the datasheets will tell you maximum shock they can handle). and they use less power. you need a $5 adapter to hook it up. but you could buy two desktop HDs for the price of a notebook HD.
the Via Epia board that Burnin used is designed for low power. i think a 1ghz with laptop CD and laptop HD is under 40W total. a desktop P4 with a few drives and video/audio cards uses 250W+
they do have things to reduce noise from an inverter. dont know much about them...
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sidewaySilvia
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Re: (IWannaS15)
Ok , I need the best info to anyone's ability..I wanna be able to run doom 3 within the car(that would be killer sick, especially with a system) I am trying to use the most compact parts to customize.. I'm going with the lilliput 8". That's definite.. Don't know about the itx mobo, it doesn't have any agp slots. I want to run the ati all-in-wonder 9600xt. I could use the new pci express cards but I still believe agp's out perform (for now at least). If I have to I'll use a pci video card ( but most are compatible with pentium , and amd processors. What processor is on the itx? Is it interchangeable to something higher? Please help guys ....Here are the specs (required + recommended)
Pentium 4 1.5ghz (2 gig recommended)384mb RAM ( 512 rec.)64mb video (128 rec.)
Pentium 4 1.5ghz (2 gig recommended)384mb RAM ( 512 rec.)64mb video (128 rec.)
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mrbean
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Re: (sidewaySilvia)
Dude, that's gonna be hard... I'd suggest going with an Nvidia card. Doom 3 was made with Nvidia compatibility in mind, so i t looks good even on lower end cards. I usually like ATI cards much better, but in this case, unless you can afford an x800, I would go with Nvidia.
As far as PCI express goes, it is about equivalent to AGP in performance, but there's not too much support yet in terms of cards available, so you gotta do your research.
Processor and RAM wise, I'd say at least go the recommended. It all comes down to how highly detailed you want Doom 3 to be. I doubt you can do anywhere near the highest settings without a video card that requires massive power and space. You also have the heat issue with P4's and higher end cards. I really can't see a low profile rig capable of pulling this off.
As far as PCI express goes, it is about equivalent to AGP in performance, but there's not too much support yet in terms of cards available, so you gotta do your research.
Processor and RAM wise, I'd say at least go the recommended. It all comes down to how highly detailed you want Doom 3 to be. I doubt you can do anywhere near the highest settings without a video card that requires massive power and space. You also have the heat issue with P4's and higher end cards. I really can't see a low profile rig capable of pulling this off.
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hannibal
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Re: (sidewaySilvia)
There are pentium ITX boards. Commell makes some (theyre expensive) and Insight makes one called the P4 ITX. I assume they would have an AGP slot. The ITX boards from Via are designed to work with Via's C3 or Eden processor. THe C3 runs up to 1.2Ghz and the Eden (fanless, ultra low power) goes up to 800Mhz. These processors are embedded, meaning theyre permanently attached at the factory.
Also consider a micro ATX board. These are found in mini tower desktop systems. I have an older one that measures 9 x 9.5". I think that is the standard size. (BTW, mini ITX is 6.5 x 6.5"). Most mfg (Soyo, Epox, etc) that make regular sized ATX boards also make the smaller mATX ones so you have a much larger variety to chose from.
I wouldnt use less than 512MB DDR for auido/video playback (especially with Win XP, it loves RAM). So I say 512MB+ for this gaming system.
Opus Solutions makes an all in one pwr supply + startup and shutdown controller. Its $200 for the 150W and $150 for the 90W. It senses power thru the ACC line when you start the car, and begins booting your PC. When you turn off the car, it begins a shutdown procedure. It makes your PC turn on and off like an indash CD player. Even if you use a laptop DVD and laptop HD with the P4 and ATI card, I dont know if you could stay under 150W. THe only alternative would be an DC-AC inverter.
THe 7" LCDs pretty much fill up a double din slot. The 8" Lilliput wont fit, but if youre doing custom work, it makes sense to go with the bigger screen.
Keep us posted...
Also consider a micro ATX board. These are found in mini tower desktop systems. I have an older one that measures 9 x 9.5". I think that is the standard size. (BTW, mini ITX is 6.5 x 6.5"). Most mfg (Soyo, Epox, etc) that make regular sized ATX boards also make the smaller mATX ones so you have a much larger variety to chose from.
I wouldnt use less than 512MB DDR for auido/video playback (especially with Win XP, it loves RAM). So I say 512MB+ for this gaming system.
Opus Solutions makes an all in one pwr supply + startup and shutdown controller. Its $200 for the 150W and $150 for the 90W. It senses power thru the ACC line when you start the car, and begins booting your PC. When you turn off the car, it begins a shutdown procedure. It makes your PC turn on and off like an indash CD player. Even if you use a laptop DVD and laptop HD with the P4 and ATI card, I dont know if you could stay under 150W. THe only alternative would be an DC-AC inverter.
THe 7" LCDs pretty much fill up a double din slot. The 8" Lilliput wont fit, but if youre doing custom work, it makes sense to go with the bigger screen.
Keep us posted...
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mrbean
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Re: (IWannaS15)
Great info, iwannas15! I was wondering about startup and shutdown. This seems perfect.
Some questions about Laptop DVD and HD's:
Would they both use the same type of adaptor to be IDE compatible?
What kind of power inputs do they require?
Modified by mrbean at 1:33 AM 9/13/2004
Some questions about Laptop DVD and HD's:
Would they both use the same type of adaptor to be IDE compatible?
What kind of power inputs do they require?
Modified by mrbean at 1:33 AM 9/13/2004
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hannibal
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opushttp://www.opussolutions.com
Carnetixhttp://www.carnetix.coma new company, based in ATL, makes a separate startup and shutdown controller (SSC). Its the P1260 model and its basically a Opus without the built-in power supply. If you buy a case with an included power supply, the carnetix goes between the battery and existing power supply to control start up and shutdown. Its sells for $80. The downside to this is that its only designed to work with power supplies up to 60W. Most pwr supplies included with cases are 60W. But youre outta luck if you need more power.
Oh, just checked the Carnetix site. They have a new product coming out. Its similar to their previous version, but this adds a separate 5V/3A output specifically for USB devices. This is useful if your included power supply cant supply enough juice for all those USB devices.
The Carnetix and the Opus are the only commercial SSC's I know of.
IIRC, the laptop CD adapter is differrent from the laptop HD adapter. They each cost about $5. Its also possible to use an external USB or FirwWire enclosure that has these converters built in. This is more useful for the CD drive. IDE cables arent designed for long runs (trunk to dash). You can leave the PC in the trunk, mount the CD is the dash, and use USB or FireWire to connect to the PC. The adapters are designed to use the regular 4 pin power plugs. The external enclosures usually include a 2.5mm?? power jack, designed to be used with a normal 120VAC to 5VDC wall adapter.
Carnetixhttp://www.carnetix.coma new company, based in ATL, makes a separate startup and shutdown controller (SSC). Its the P1260 model and its basically a Opus without the built-in power supply. If you buy a case with an included power supply, the carnetix goes between the battery and existing power supply to control start up and shutdown. Its sells for $80. The downside to this is that its only designed to work with power supplies up to 60W. Most pwr supplies included with cases are 60W. But youre outta luck if you need more power.
Oh, just checked the Carnetix site. They have a new product coming out. Its similar to their previous version, but this adds a separate 5V/3A output specifically for USB devices. This is useful if your included power supply cant supply enough juice for all those USB devices.
The Carnetix and the Opus are the only commercial SSC's I know of.
IIRC, the laptop CD adapter is differrent from the laptop HD adapter. They each cost about $5. Its also possible to use an external USB or FirwWire enclosure that has these converters built in. This is more useful for the CD drive. IDE cables arent designed for long runs (trunk to dash). You can leave the PC in the trunk, mount the CD is the dash, and use USB or FireWire to connect to the PC. The adapters are designed to use the regular 4 pin power plugs. The external enclosures usually include a 2.5mm?? power jack, designed to be used with a normal 120VAC to 5VDC wall adapter.
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hannibal
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Re: (IWannaS15)
Hard drive adapterhttp://www.cablesonline.com/25hdmounkitw.html
CD adapterhttp://www.baber.com/baber/pro...r.htm
The top pic of the CD adapter shows the side going to the PC. It has a 40pin IDE conection and connections for power (small, floppy drive power plug) and that little 4 pin audio cable. Not sure what the third connection is for??
CD adapterhttp://www.baber.com/baber/pro...r.htm
The top pic of the CD adapter shows the side going to the PC. It has a 40pin IDE conection and connections for power (small, floppy drive power plug) and that little 4 pin audio cable. Not sure what the third connection is for??
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Re: (mrbean)
Though i would mention this
http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.htm
here's the post where i found it.http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=70672
that's what i inted to use with my carPC. i think that's waht started my project.
I may just get the AEM EMS. I might just go safc for now then get the ems but the consult would be nice for now. and i could always sell it later.
http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.htm
here's the post where i found it.http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=70672
that's what i inted to use with my carPC. i think that's waht started my project.
I may just get the AEM EMS. I might just go safc for now then get the ems but the consult would be nice for now. and i could always sell it later.