top hat performance

[SullivanRacing06]

so i need to contact top hat performance in conyers ga, ive tryed calling the a couple of times today and it says that thre phone has temp been disconected, im wondering if there puling the same b/s xat racign in tampa did, any help would be appt, there number is 770-388-5233

[BHFR-GTR]

no they are not pulling bull****, they had a problem with the phone company, and the phone should be back up asap, i talk to mike almost every day, and i think it was yesterday when he told me this. i asked him the same question. so it you have a question for them and cant get anyone call me 1 804 366 1598 names mark

[Ivan M]

hey i tried to go to their website and get their email but the site isnt up, n e one kno wats goin on with tophat?

[BHFR-GTR]

the website should be up and running as we speak, top hat has moved to a new locatation and is no longer doing general service work, they have gotten back to just performance work and parts r & d, there phone was cut off because they moved to a diff county and couldnt retain the same number i will post the new number up as soon as i get a chance thanks and if you need anything before the new number is posted up please feel free to contact me, my number was posted above

[BHFR-GTR]

1 678 712 9080 top hats new number

[SullivanRacing06]

well id like to say thanks to tophat for screwing me over! they "installed" a new crank collar on to my crank, and charged me for it, turned out all they did was cut my crank, and put two spot welds on the snout of my crank and said they installed the new snout, i had titan motorsports mike my crank to see if its still good, thank god i caught the dropping oil pressure with my under 25psi oil light, then tophat had the balls to try and charge me 275 for a set of acl race bearings, titan sold them to me for 98 for mains n rods, now they will not pick up for me! so im sorry for ne one that gives them any buisness

[StricNyne]

ouch they gave u the ole stab in the brown.. ne way i bougth their mounts i had trouble with them but mike did send me another trans mount for free but it still didint work so i chopped it up to work

[Jimefam]

I went to order some stuff from there website but i guess the ecommerce thing was down so i couldn't do it. I've been calling for a week and it's like some guys cellphone cause it just goes straight to voicemail. Emailed them to try to get a response but no luck. I just passed right by there today but couldn't get a hold of them before hand to make my order. Now forget it I cant order something from a company that I cant even get a hold of.

[BHFR-GTR]

did you try the new number that posted above, if you did then there is not much else i can do, i can always get in touch with them

[s14_sport]

hahaha...nuttin but trouble with shops lately...

[Jimefam]

yeah i tried the new number. but no problem nothing they have that a more accessable and stable shop doesn't.

[SullivanRacing06]

so i tried calling tophat off my cell phone and it goes straight to there message, then i called off my shop phone and it goes thru, they blocked my cell and screwed me for the crank collar and the bearings, titan laughed at the site of the crank, they knew rite away that there was never a collar on it, i called mike wen i got the crank months back and told him that it looked like no collar was installed, he kept tellin me that it had, i should of never done buisness w them, this is redic

[BHFR-GTR]

no they didnt block your cell number, i have called many times and for some reasons cell phones dont like to go through, its the same way with his wifes cell number, she can call and i can redial and it wont go through, i can say without a doubt that he did not block your number

[SullivanRacing06]

well if hed like to reinburse me for all my f- ing trouble of having to pull my motor back out, buy all new bearings, the shipping of the crank to and from titan motorsports for them to mike it, my time foro rebuilding the damm thing AGAIN! mike insisted that a N1 pump is un breakable, i told him im shooting for 650-750 w nitrous and he kept telling me itd work, obv it dosent, im sorry man, im a certified nissan tech, ive built 3 other 26 for 2 customers r33s and one for a s14 swap, all are the s14 was a stock rebuild the r33 were high hp and greddy pumps were used, sorry i think its bad buisness ethic to not respond after 2 months of phone messages and emails

[dwnshfter]

well if hed like to reinburse me for all my f- ing trouble of having to pull my motor back out, buy all new bearings, the shipping of the crank to and from titan motorsports for them to mike it, my time foro rebuilding the damm thing AGAIN! mike insisted that a N1 pump is un breakable, i told him im shooting for 650-750 w nitrous and he kept telling me itd work, obv it dosent, im sorry man, im a certified nissan tech, ive built 3 other 26 for 2 customers r33s and one for a s14 swap, all are the s14 was a stock rebuild the r33 were high hp and greddy pumps were used, sorry i think its bad buisness ethic to not respond after 2 months of phone messages and emails

[craz4240]

Why you say that...he obviously got screwed and I can attest to the ****tyness of tophats mount kits.

[dwnshfter]

i was agreeing with the last sentence really, i shoulda only quoted that one my bad. i had heard great things about them, but they tried to rip me off on a clutch so i never did buisness with them....glad i couldnt afford their bad work, whew

[yotik]

theyre definitely still around i just talked to them yesterday...

[BHFR-GTR]

so if you are a certified nissan tech, and have built so many bad rb's why you go somewhere else to get your work done, and if u used those greddy pumps why the hell didnt you use that on your own motor, that doesnt make any sense, hey man sorry for your bad luck, its never nice to hear, but you know the defninition of stupid is doin the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results............ if they kept messing up your engine why did you keep getting them to do work, and about there mounts, there mounts work great, thats why they sell many mounts kits every week because they work, the only time that there was a prob, it was because the place they were getting the isolators from were getting them from two different companys, one company ( the ones they use only now) has extra stiff mounts, the other company ( wich look exactly the same ) had a crappy isolator that sagged and was squishy, once that was found out they made sure to only use the right ones,

[nizmo zilvia]

Dude stop being on his nuts already. You sound like a damn annoying 3 year old that never stops whining. He obviously got screwed over and that's that. Also he's not the only one to complain. They have been lacking the past couple of years and that's their business.

Personally Top Hat products are WAY too expensive. That's why I don't shop there for OEM or any parts. Period! I paid way too much for a damn water pump which costed me $180 and you can get it for like $70 + shipping. At that time I wasn't aware of other dealers, but I was also new to RBs.

Anyways I'm just sick and tired of hearing people stick up for shops that have been slacking lately and think they should get more business.

[gawdzilla]

i'm confused. so tophat didn't actually put the crank collar on? or the crank collar failed?

if that's the case what is the reasoning for blaming the oil pump itself?

[nizmo zilvia]

From what I read or remember they never did and charged him for it. All they did was weld it a bit and said they did put it on.

[SullivanRacing06]

i'm confused. so tophat didn't actually put the crank collar on? or the crank collar failed?

if that's the case what is the reasoning for blaming the oil pump itself?

i paid mike to install a crank collar, he sent the crank back with a "stock" looking snout with two god ugly large welds on the snout, which ended up hitting the back of the pump, so i called top hat, mike answered with well u can grid the welds down yourself or send us your, block, crank and oil pump and well remove the welds, oh and btw u get to pay for the shipping, (for their fuc! up) then i asked mike whyd you weld the new "snout" on the crank? i thought itd be a machine press only ordeal? he responded with oh well its for extra security, wtf ive never heard of anyone else welding on the snout, mabey bc his machine shop never installed the snout??????

and i send the crank to them bc all of the locam machine shop around here are total screw arounds, ive delt with him for the wiring service before, so i figured that he would be able to do things rite.

i used a N1 pump BECAUSE A RB SHOP OWNER TOLD ME THAT A GREDDY PUMP WOULD BE OVER KILL! he was obviously wrong!

and the crap, im sorry, i must to to stupid to do anything, jealousy a woman trait ***

[dwnshfter]

and the crap, im sorry, i must to to stupid to do anything, jealousy a woman trait ***

did you not read my post? i was agreeing with you! i didnt say you were stupid, there is no smiley that says im with "that guy" or "what he said", sorry to offend

[nissandrftr88]

The only reason he can help you with wiring is because he stole somebody else's wiring diagrams....and stole their cad drawings for mounts....and stole thier employee..and girlfriend...

So yes,*** hat does shady work..i would never take nor recomend sending a car there..

[craz4240]

so if you are a certified nissan tech, and have built so many bad rb's why you go somewhere else to get your work done, and if u used those greddy pumps why the hell didnt you use that on your own motor, that doesnt make any sense, hey man sorry for your bad luck, its never nice to hear, but you know the defninition of stupid is doin the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results............ if they kept messing up your engine why did you keep getting them to do work, and about there mounts, there mounts work great, thats why they sell many mounts kits every week because they work, the only time that there was a prob, it was because the place they were getting the isolators from were getting them from two different companys, one company ( the ones they use only now) has extra stiff mounts, the other company ( wich look exactly the same ) had a crappy isolator that sagged and was squishy, once that was found out they made sure to only use the right ones,

Their mounts blow balls they don't line up right it takes a small miracle to ge tthe motor to sit properly on them,oh and the transmission crossmembers are made backwards and upside down.

[rb26tommy]

well idk why u guys have such a hard time with there mounts i have them in my rb26 s14 and rb25 s13 and rb20 s13. i have installed them in my of the swaps that i do here. but everyone has there own problems with them i am just sharing my 2 cents. =) and you can call that number i talk to him about 2 weeks ago to ask him to send me more stuff.

The only reason he can help you with wiring is because he stole somebody else's wiring diagrams....and stole their cad drawings for mounts....and stole thier employee..and girlfriend...

So yes,*** hat does shady work..i would never take nor recomend sending a car there..

i wanted to know when u say that. are u talking about ur self that he did that to.
Modified by rb26tommy at 1:43 PM 8/17/2008

[BHFR-GTR]

hey whats goin on tommy, this is mark i met you at nopi, i was in the booth with mike, i have the 26 with the gt40, anyway i dont know about anyone else but all my swaps use tophat mounts and have been fine, and i have never had aprob with them, and as far as oil pumps go, a greddy one is over kill unless you want to turn between 8500 and 1200, the oil pumps you have are breaking because there is something wrong with your crank, who ever did it, a stock pump is fine as long as you dont want to take it over 8k, i have a oem r34 pump on my engine and eric hsu said i would be fine as long as i dont rev over 8. the problem is rpm's are what break most pumps, your not goin to be breaking pumps because you have monster hp, its becuase you are turning your motor to much, so yes mike was right a greddy pump was goin to be a overkill

[rb26tommy]

hey there bro what is up i remember you what is going on how is ur car. it has been a while lol since nopi.

[Coolwhip]

oil pump failure comes down to these things:

1) High rev + short snout = slip + broken gear2) Harmonics; some what same as the above due to high RPM (if the engine isn't that balanced it'll cause irregular wear to the pump causing it to break)3) Thrust, if you have alot of thrust play on your crank, it'll apply pressure or foul against the pump and cause damage.

hope that helps in this thread.