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IRL and Chip Ganasis driver Tony Rena has died of injuries he suffered during a crash in Turn 3 while testing at IMS (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) today.
Tony Rena has just died in crash at IMS
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Nismo_Freak
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nomuken wrote:that's a pretty fUked up thing to say. the man died, show some respect.
You shouldn't be so touchy about what people say. It's called irony and I thought it had a touch of dark humor as well.
And yet you mess with the word filter to show the word fUked instead of ****ed when it is people like you that are so touchy about words that cause word filters like these to be put in place. Can we say more Irony?
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wasn't he only 26 years old? its a sad story, but it comes with driving fast regardless of whether its in a controlled environment.That is part of the excitment that comes with racing, knowing it could be your last. although that should never be on your mind while doing so. he drove f-1 right? god at least he got to drive one of those amazing machines before his time came.much respect to him
Quote »when it is people like you that are so touchy about words that cause word filters[/quote]
people like me? you're not the sharpest cat on the block are you, if i were "touchy" about words i wouldn't have used them in my post. i'm touchy about making jokes at the expense of someone's death, particularly the kind of remark Cold_Zero made.
Quote »You shouldn't be so touchy about what people say[/quote] you have no business telling others what they should or shouldn't do
people like me? you're not the sharpest cat on the block are you, if i were "touchy" about words i wouldn't have used them in my post. i'm touchy about making jokes at the expense of someone's death, particularly the kind of remark Cold_Zero made.
Quote »You shouldn't be so touchy about what people say[/quote] you have no business telling others what they should or shouldn't do
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wouldnt be the first time someone died dureing a tyre test , im reminded of mark donahue back in the late 60s early 70s , died in africa dureing a tyre test , mark actualy got out of the car and went home declineing medical care , only to die at home from head injurys and internal bleeding fromt he crash
nomuken wrote:people like me? you're not the sharpest cat on the block are you, if i were "touchy" about words i wouldn't have used them in my post. i'm touchy about making jokes at the expense of someone's death, particularly the kind of remark Cold_Zero made.
you have no business telling others what they should or shouldn't do
You want a kleenex?
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nomuken wrote:people like me? you're not the sharpest cat on the block are you, if i were "touchy" about words i wouldn't have used them in my post. i'm touchy about making jokes at the expense of someone's death, particularly the kind of remark Cold_Zero made.
you have no business telling others what they should or shouldn't do
nomuken,It was not a joke, just an observation of a company that keeps getting beat up about their tires. Obviously this does not help. Oh and by the way, the dozens of people I talked to this week, in an IRL town (you know Indy the motorsports capital of the world) found no disrespect in my comments.
Nismodave,Why should I respect a country that has put our rights as citizens on hold (USA Patriot Act)? I dont feel any safer now then I did after 9-11. My avatar is a political statement, like it or hate it, this is still somewhat of a free country. I dont want this to turn into a political debate, in a thread about a fallen race car driver.
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Texas Motor Speedway on Oct. 12:"Brack suffered fractures to his lower spine, sternum, right leg and both ankles in the impact that registered 193 G's. He was transported Thursday to the Rehabilitation Hospital of Indiana to continue a recovery that is expected to take at least three months. "
this happend this year also , ive managed to find 4 cars flying this year , reminds me of nascar in the late 80s early 90s , 193Gs is alot , concidering fighter piolts only take up to 9 Gs before passing out
i think first off IRL should issue rev limiters that bring the revs down to around 9500 rpm from 10500 of a few years ago , that should slow them down enough to get back to the "relative" safety they had 5-6 years ago when the turbocharged formula was outlawed , according to one report the tub in renna's car split , so it also looks like the IRL needs to look into the tubs and how to make them stronger , i think and the IRL took a long hard look at it when they came out with the infiniti pro series , the dallara from what ive been told is VERY safe , but those cars are around 50-65 mph slower than the full on IRL rig
another issue is how close these cars are to actualy going over the fence and into the stands at indy , i think IMS needs to look into the safety of the fans as the "500" is the largest specatator sporting event in the world
its sad in racing, people dont realize somethings wrong till someone dies
this happend this year also , ive managed to find 4 cars flying this year , reminds me of nascar in the late 80s early 90s , 193Gs is alot , concidering fighter piolts only take up to 9 Gs before passing out
i think first off IRL should issue rev limiters that bring the revs down to around 9500 rpm from 10500 of a few years ago , that should slow them down enough to get back to the "relative" safety they had 5-6 years ago when the turbocharged formula was outlawed , according to one report the tub in renna's car split , so it also looks like the IRL needs to look into the tubs and how to make them stronger , i think and the IRL took a long hard look at it when they came out with the infiniti pro series , the dallara from what ive been told is VERY safe , but those cars are around 50-65 mph slower than the full on IRL rig
another issue is how close these cars are to actualy going over the fence and into the stands at indy , i think IMS needs to look into the safety of the fans as the "500" is the largest specatator sporting event in the world
its sad in racing, people dont realize somethings wrong till someone dies
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I'm sure they'll start tightening safety, they did it in NASCAR and still add on now, remember the huge arguements over the restrictor plates to keep the stock cars from flying around at about 240mph?
I think the current arguement on safety stuff right now is for the little cable to hold the neck in, can't remember the name of it right now though...this was brought on from Earnhart's death I believe.
I think the current arguement on safety stuff right now is for the little cable to hold the neck in, can't remember the name of it right now though...this was brought on from Earnhart's death I believe.
Stoneage_Turbo wrote:is there any info on what caused the crash ?
second time this year a car has flown at indy , time to slow em back down , you know its bad when mario wont touch a indy car after his flight last may (coarse he hit a tire or something)
Rena's tires were not warmed up enough is what I have heard. It was cool that morning and he hadn't warmed the tires up enough before he got on the throttle exiting the corner. He evidently got it loose and into the grass and spun it and the air caught it from behind and lifted it up and the rear wing hit the fence and spun the car around into one of the poles holding the fence basically cutting the car into two pieces and shattering the drivers tub where he was sitting. He hit with such great force that he bent the pole and broke it from the concrete barrier and that is what gave way and why the spectator walkway to the stands was damaged. The car and large debris never landed in the stands. The pole was ripped into the walkway and did minor damage to the front of the walkway and railing.
The Rena crash seems to be very similar to what happened to Kenny Brack in the IRL finale 2 weeks ago. The big difference is the impact of the tub to the fence. Brack's car disipitated the energy more before he hit anything substantial. He hit the fence more before he hit any steel pole that was set in concrete. Whereas Rena touched the fence and was then slingshoted into the pole sideways ripping the car in half basically. I am under the impression that his head hit the pole at full speed. It would have killed him instantly.
Mario's crash was similar. He hit a small piece of debris and the front of the car lifted sending him end over end 3 or 4 times before the car landed.
Now, I want to make sure that everyone knows that this is not official information. This is what I have heard so far from IMS officials, the media and some friends who are involved with the IRL here in town. I think it is fairly accurate and good information, but it is deffinetly not undisputed factual information.