Tokico or KYB?

[Touchdown038]

I am looking to get myself some new shocks, and I'm trying to decide between KYB GR2s or Tokico Blues. Over at enjukuracing.com, they have the Tokicos for $339.99 and the GR2s for $219.99. My question is, do the Tokicos really make $120 worth of a difference? Would it be worth it to spend the extra $120?

[WingsNThangs]

I got Tokico HP (aka "Blues:) with Eibach ProKit and I'm definitely satisfied with it. Tokico and KYB are both very good and reputable companies. I doubt the difference in quality is $120, but maybe you should look elsewhere for pricing. Regarding Tokicos, they have been in the business for a long time for sure. They make the OEM shocks for our stock cars.

[BadMojo]

I'm going to get the KYB AGX's, which can be had for $370 shipped. Lots of folks like these. You can get them for coximports.com OR shox.com says they will price match.

The bonus with the AGX's is that you can adjust them a bit to match your springs, and as the shocks age you can compensate a bit for that by adjusting them stiffer.

You can also get new shock boots if yours are torn or really deteriorated. KYB makes replacement boots for ~ $12 each. They also make replacement strut mounts for the front for about $50. Good to replace if yours seem worn. Mine have ~97K on them, so I'm going to replace the front with some Tein pillowball mounts.

If you just want an OE replacement shock to use with OE springs, I'd go with the GR2's. People do use lowering springs with the GR2's, but don't think that's a great idea.

If you're going to do any lowering, I'd take the AGX's over the Tokicos, since the price is pretty close. I haven't heard a lot of great things about the Tokico's when lowered.

[offtheline]

This is in response to my email to tornactive.com that coximport would go 370 shipped on the kyb agx:

>I can do $365 shipped> >Call us to order> >Thanks>TornActive Designs>E-mail: [email protected]>Web: http://www.tornactive.com>Phone: 909-946-2409

Just a little money saving heads up =)

[BadMojo]

This is in response to my email to tornactive.com that coximport would go 370 shipped on the kyb agx:

>I can do $365 shipped> >Call us to order> >Thanks>TornActive Designs>E-mail: [email protected]>Web: http://www.tornactive.com>Phone: 909-946-2409

Just a little money saving heads up =)

I'm not familiar with them. Have you dealt with that shop in the past?

[offtheline]

hmm... actually no. Their customer service was really quick though. And their website is quite extensive and professional, for whatever that is worth.

[WingsNThangs]

The bonus with the AGX's is that you can adjust them a bit to match your springs, and as the shocks age you can compensate a bit for that by adjusting them stiffer.

The downside to that bonus is that you have to get your wheels aligned every time you adjust them to correct camber problems. Of course you don't HAVE to re-align, that is, if you don't care for unnecessary tire wear.

[240sxOwner]

If you are not lowered i would say go with the GR-2's. If you are lowered then i would say KYB AGX, they are awesome. I haven't had a problem yet. I bought them from CoxImport, they are a very good company to go through. Their customer service is real cool and helpful, and actually the president is very cool and down to earth.

[BadMojo]

The downside to that bonus is that you have to get your wheels aligned every time you adjust them to correct camber problems. Of course you don't HAVE to re-align, that is, if you don't care for unnecessary tire wear.

Are you quite sure about that? As far as I can tell, the AGX's are adjustable for bump but not rebound. The site isn't clear on this, so I may be wrong.

Edit: Not that the above has much to do with anything. Just an interesting bit of information.

I don't think stiffer bump setting (turning the knob) shouldn't affect ride height or suspension geometry enough to throw off alignment.

That poor little shock isn't going to be able to stop that coil spring from compressing, not matter what setting it's at. AGX's are OE replacements, no modding required.

I just don't see how adjusting the damper stiffer is going to throw off camber. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[raging panda]

You dont have to get a realignment everytime you change the settings on your agx shocks, do you? I thought that it was just changing the dampening of the shock to stiffer, not changing any of the camber angles or anything else.

[driftaholic]

adjusting agx's does not change ride height, therefore it does not change geometry

[Dori Dori]

:Werd

[graphikg04]

Here is the deal Touchdown. Tokiko blues VS. the KYB GR-2... definitely go with the Tokiko. Because the Gr-2s are basically OEM shocks and struts; Tokikos are after market. Tokiko Blues VS. KYB AGX... Definitely go with the AGXs. They are adjustable, and are great, but they are more expensive for sure. Koni Sport Yellows VS. The AGXs... Thats a personal preference I guess. I want the Konis, they are also adjustable, and they are great for street and a little track, but they also might be a little more expensive. Here's my .02 cents

graphikG

[Dori Dori]

I would have gone with Koni without a doubt over my Buzz Specs (they are basically a short stroke AGX) if the rears were externally adjustable. I love my KYB's, don't get me wrong, but I like Koni's more...they just feel better to me. Then again, I am basing my viewpoint on my g/f's Integra which has double wishbone suspension on the front and back. Ahhh, double wishbones rule. Too bad the car is wrong wheel drive.

[keepingthe240]

This is in response to my email to tornactive.com that coximport would go 370 shipped on the kyb agx:

>I can do $365 shipped> >Call us to order> >Thanks>TornActive Designs>E-mail: [email protected]>Web: http://www.tornactive.com>Phone: 909-946-2409

Just a little money saving heads up =)

I couldn'y find those kyb's on that site.

[offtheline]

They dont have a picture of them. But they stock them. Thats why you have to call them.

[keepingthe240]

Calling them isn't worth 5 bucks

[offtheline]

Id personally rather call because then I can verify the part numbers with a person. but, five bucks isnt a big deal unless you are a college kid like me. Thats an entire meal!

[driftaholic]

Thats an entire meal!

that's 50 packs of top ramen! 25 days if you eat 2 a day!!

[offtheline]

that's 50 packs of top ramen! 25 days if you eat 2 a day!!

Damn ramen is 10 cents where you live?? Its 20 here!

[driftaholic]

at the store by me most varieties are usually 6 for a dollar but they almost always have one kind or another on sale for 10 for a dollar w00t!

ummm just to keep it on topic, i got my agx's for $370 shipped from coximport.com. i wasn't sure what to expect for shipping time (cheap usually = long time) but it only took 6 business days. enjuku always takes 5 business days to ship to me (from florida to oakland), so the price is actually pretty good

[IneedMoney]

tirerack.com will do 2 day shipping with KYB AGX for about $480

[keepingthe240]

tirerack.com will do 2 day shipping with KYB AGX for about $480

Thats not much of a bargin

[tupac03602]

i got tha kyb gr2's and they r nice and all but they not as stiff as i would like them, i never have used tha tokiko blues but i plan on swappin out my gr2's for agx's. o yea im usin eibach pro kit for springs and i love them.

[graphikg04]

Hey Tupac. The GR2's should not be that much stiffer. The GR2's are basically an OEM replacement made by an aftermarket company. So you wont notice much of a difference. So go with the AGXs or the Koni Sports. Both are good. PEACE

graphikG

[tupac03602]

i can believe that with tha gr2's i got them in and i have never felt stock new struts for my car. i plan on tha agx's tho.

[240SXsilverS13]

will my tanabe lowering springs fit GR2?

[tupac03602]

if u lookin to lower ur car i would buy stiffer struts (dependin on how much they drop ur car) i got eibach pro kit and they dropped my s13 roughly 3/4 of an inch so tha gr2's r fine. but anything around or more then an inch i would suggest goin with sumthing more stiffer then gr2's. i could be wrong tho.